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Re-FLeX
Internal Error.
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Posted - 2012.12.16 18:56:00 -
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Vote Yes/No for an SP wipe next build.
I vote yes. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2012.12.16 18:57:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussCHoQttyQ&feature=related |
l8erXD
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
33
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Posted - 2012.12.16 18:58:00 -
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I don't understand the reason of your petition. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2282
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Posted - 2012.12.16 19:05:00 -
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no reason for it
just gonna grind back up the same **** again and turn ppl off in the process
only wipe when absolutely necessary |
Galthur
CrimeWave Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.12.16 19:16:00 -
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"Update: The "Exile" Assault rifle reward will be a blue print original and will be reimbursed after a server wipe."
"Reimbursed after server wipe"
"Server wipe" |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.12.16 19:27:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:no reason for it
just gonna grind back up the same **** again and turn ppl off in the process
only wipe when absolutely necessary
Like.
Agreed.
In my case if theres another wipe then its time to play more Borderlands 2/Resident Evil 6/Tales of Graces/Dark Souls/White Knight Chronicles 2/Dead Island GOTY/Dead Island 2/Underworld/New Vegas....etc and far LESS Dust 514 to the point of once per week or month??
I think a wipe for no reason is a very bad idea as it will turn my Dust 514 play time into game over man, game over!!
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J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
648
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Posted - 2012.12.16 19:28:00 -
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No |
Horus Forge
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
175
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Posted - 2012.12.16 19:29:00 -
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Don't worry - there will have to be a wipe if theres anything like this screenshot shows: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/12/11/dust-514-war-and-profit/ |
GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2012.12.16 19:30:00 -
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No |
Ops Fox
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
197
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Posted - 2012.12.16 19:31:00 -
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Yes a wipe would be good getting back all yhe stuff thats been used and starting every one off at zero again so they can test everything is good. |
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aucune ID
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.16 19:42:00 -
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not there will be a new build you kidding  |
Darky Kuzarian
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
143
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Posted - 2012.12.16 19:45:00 -
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Yes with a good amount of SP to start with, we can't test the new weapons if our current ones are maxed out they need to level up the playing field . |
Vermaak Kuvakei
Doomheim
88
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Posted - 2012.12.16 19:47:00 -
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No |
Kazeno Rannaa
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
145
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Posted - 2012.12.16 19:48:00 -
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I'm ok with a isk and equipment wipe, but my understanding is that CCP may be allowing us to keep the SP, but just let us reallocate the SP totals each of us have in new ways so as to allow us the opportunity to test as much of the gear out as possible.
Either way, this thread is more likely to not influence CCP's end decision in what they will do when the new build doe finally come out. PLus I thought there would be another complete wipe unit we transfer over to Tranquility upon release. |
Jarlaxle Xorlarrin
SyNergy Gaming
67
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Posted - 2012.12.16 19:48:00 -
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no |
Tbone322
D3ath D3alers
RISE of LEGION
124
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Posted - 2012.12.16 19:48:00 -
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No
On a side note I think CCP is going to be very reluctant to wipe again before release, because then they have to give everybody all their Aurum back. Right now people are still buying Aurum as they run out, when they wipe and return it everybody will get enough AUR back to play for months without paying another dime to CCP. I don't think they want to see that revenue stream dry up just yet. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
428
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Posted - 2012.12.16 19:54:00 -
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I Vote for the skill refund! Where all your skill points become unallocated and you can just use them like you did before or go all out and change your style....but i'd prefer no wipe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AarHxXD_vKY |
StrafeN AnD HeadShotN
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
67
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Posted - 2012.12.16 19:57:00 -
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yes, lets even the playing field |
Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
208
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Posted - 2012.12.16 20:16:00 -
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Galthur wrote:"Update: The "Exile" Assault rifle reward will be a blue print original and will be reimbursed after a server wipe."
"Reimbursed after server wipe"
"Server wipe"
There will be a server wipe when we move to tranquility and the Exile rifle will be reimbursed after that ... but that doesn't mean there will be a wipe for the next build ... just that IF there is, the rifle will remain ... and that's if we get it before the build release anyway, there's no guarantee of that.
As for wanting a wipe next build ... No ... there's not enough proto level gear being used to get data on its balance and more items and skills introduced with the build will get tested more quickly if people aren't having to skill up suits and armor and shields again.
I'm not entirely against the idea of clearing trained skills and retaining current total sp levels to spend again ... but ONLY while we're in beta stage for testing purposes. Personally I've spent all my points wisely as I've had the benefit of many builds to get a feel for it, perhaps a new build could give newer testers the opportunity to try a different direction without losing the hard earnt points now that we have the sp cap. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2012.12.16 20:16:00 -
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Get stuffed. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2866
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Posted - 2012.12.16 20:20:00 -
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All rewarded items will be reimburse every server wipe, reward isk and SP however not so. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.12.16 20:58:00 -
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Voting "Yes"
Wipe everything...at the very least, wipe allow skill point reallocation |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.12.16 21:02:00 -
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Yes to reallocated skill points, no to complete wipe. Why would you have another two month grind when we will potentially have more skill books to go into instead of letting us stay where we're at and just branch out 
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Re-FLeX
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.12.16 21:06:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Yes to reallocated skill points, no to complete wipe. Why would you have another two month grind when we will potentially have more skill books to go into instead of letting us stay where we're at and just branch out
So we can have some competition, i'm tired of boring matches playing against people in ''assault frontline'' gear. |
SATORI CORUSCANTi
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
253
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Posted - 2012.12.16 21:07:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Yes to reallocated skill points, no to complete wipe. Why would you have another two month grind when we will potentially have more skill books to go into instead of letting us stay where we're at and just branch out
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Sleepy Zan
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Posted - 2012.12.16 21:08:00 -
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Re-FLeX wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Yes to reallocated skill points, no to complete wipe. Why would you have another two month grind when we will potentially have more skill books to go into instead of letting us stay where we're at and just branch out So we can have some competition, i'm tired of boring matches playing against people in ''assault frontline'' gear.
Then pull out some "assault frontline" gear |
ALM1GHTY STATIUS
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
261
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Posted - 2012.12.16 21:20:00 -
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I would like to vote in the favor of wiping SP every day, no but seriously wipe it this build please, I'm ready to put the jackhammer 14 KDR back on noobs. |
Aqua-Regia
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
12
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Posted - 2012.12.16 21:29:00 -
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YES, complete SP / ISK wipe and reimburse AUR |
Anyanka Shadowmane
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
80
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Posted - 2012.12.16 21:32:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Yes to reallocated skill points, no to complete wipe. Why would you have another two month grind when we will potentially have more skill books to go into instead of letting us stay where we're at and just branch out
+1 |
Gaff Origami
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
49
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Posted - 2012.12.16 22:01:00 -
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No |
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Villore Isu
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
115
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Posted - 2012.12.16 22:49:00 -
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Why would anyone want this? If you really really want to grind up all your SP again just start a new character, don't try to inflict you particular brand of insanity upon us normal folk.  |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
CRONOS.
229
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Posted - 2012.12.16 22:55:00 -
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Villore Isu wrote:Why would anyone want this? If you really really want to grind up all your SP again just start a new character, don't try to inflict you particular brand of insanity upon us normal folk.
No, it's because many want to even up things you know...
oh, yh i vote yes ^^ |
Pent'noir
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2012.12.16 23:08:00 -
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Please no... it'll just cause the player base to shrink. There already isn't enough of us to correctly test the matchmaker or split us up into militia/standard/advanced/proto map restrictions. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.12.16 23:10:00 -
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not necessary for next build (hopefully this week). wait till open beta now. |
l8erXD
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
33
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Posted - 2012.12.16 23:11:00 -
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This will probably never happen or I might speak too soon XD |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2012.12.16 23:11:00 -
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I'll elaborate on my previous comment.
You're here to test and if we want to test out everything, how are we going to do it if we get wiped every time? I've only just unlocked proto weapons, I haven't had a chance to test anything else yet. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
288
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Posted - 2012.12.16 23:18:00 -
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I hope they tell us for absolute sure if they are, or are not, wiping everything again. Because if they are wiping, then I am going to go on a massive spending spree running around in nothing but the best gear I can muster up.
Will be ticked if they do choose to wipe, and don't tell us. Gonna take me a little while to burn through 24 million ISK and 30k of AUR. |
Shadows Maker
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
129
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Posted - 2012.12.16 23:21:00 -
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problem is people with the new weapons will be out-gunned by the already lvl 5 weapons which will give inaccurate testing results and how they stack up against the older guns. |
DTOracle
Universal Allies Inc.
95
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Posted - 2012.12.16 23:27:00 -
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Tbone322 wrote:No
On a side note I think CCP is going to be very reluctant to wipe again before release, because then they have to give everybody all their Aurum back. Right now people are still buying Aurum as they run out, when they wipe and return it everybody will get enough AUR back to play for months without paying another dime to CCP. I don't think they want to see that revenue stream dry up just yet.
All CCP would have to is release multiple merc packs upon release & we would gobble them up. |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
CRONOS.
229
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Posted - 2012.12.16 23:32:00 -
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Shadows Maker wrote:problem is people with the new weapons will be out-gunned by the already lvl 5 weapons which will give inaccurate testing results and how they stack up against the older guns.
yh it's like lasers: they'r really powerful weapons, but just few guys use them....this build: we only got missile tanks, dropships (now nerfed), snipers and ARs.... if you call this "testing"..... that's why i think we need a good wipe maybe without SP cap or with a more flexible one...so we can really test new and old things.... |
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Anyanka Shadowmane
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
80
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Posted - 2012.12.16 23:48:00 -
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Shadows Maker wrote:problem is people with the new weapons will be out-gunned by the already lvl 5 weapons which will give inaccurate testing results and how they stack up against the older guns.
Allowing players to respend their SP would counter that though with out the need for completely wiping peoples SP. there may well be people with high SP who would like to respond some of it into the new skills.
Also, having a wide range of player abilities/SP levels will allow for better testing of whatever matchmaking system CCP are intending on implementing (I'm assuming, and indeed hoping, that they are planning on putting something in). |
Super Cargo
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2012.12.16 23:49:00 -
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Noooooooooooooo.
I don't want to level up again until release, for purely selfish reasons.
It takes a long time to level up (and it should), so it would be frustrating to do it again. |
Shadows Maker
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
129
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Posted - 2012.12.17 00:17:00 -
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Anyanka Shadowmane wrote:Shadows Maker wrote:problem is people with the new weapons will be out-gunned by the already lvl 5 weapons which will give inaccurate testing results and how they stack up against the older guns. Allowing players to respend their SP would counter that though with out the need for completely wiping peoples SP. there may well be people with high SP who would like to respond some of it into the new skills. Also, having a wide range of player abilities/SP levels will allow for better testing of whatever matchmaking system CCP are intending on implementing (I'm assuming, and indeed hoping, that they are planning on putting something in).
That is true but i still prefer natural progression where you see how the weapon stats changes each level also how it performe with lower tier dropsuits (militia) instead of maxing it out immediatly and putting it on protosuit.
Well this is my 0.02 isk but i'll work with whichever CCP give us. |
Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
90
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Posted - 2012.12.17 00:23:00 -
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Not that this is a democracy but I vote NO.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.12.17 00:40:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Yes to reallocated skill points, no to complete wipe. Why would you have another two month grind when we will potentially have more skill books to go into instead of letting us stay where we're at and just branch out
Just to be fair for the new players that have joined recently. It benefits me if they allow reallocation of skill points and wipe everything else. But I'm looking out for the players that are curious about dust and have recently joined.
If there are more skill books and such to test then test them. We don't need all of our skill points to do so. People can sacrifice a week or suspend their acquisition of a proto dropsuit for a new skill book they'd like to test.
Ohh...and refund our AUR as well!! |
Super Cargo
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2012.12.17 00:45:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:
Just to be fair for the new players that have joined recently. It benefits me if they allow reallocation of skill points and wipe everything else. But I'm looking out for the players that are curious about dust and have recently joined.
If there are more skill books and such to test then test them. We don't need all of our skill points to do so. People can sacrifice a week or suspend their acquisition of a proto dropsuit for a new skill book they'd like to test.
Ohh...and refund our AUR as well!!
I totally see where your logic is coming from.
On the other hand, this problem will still be here when DUST releases. New players will be at a severe disadvantage with their only respite coming from joining corps and matchmaking. It will benefit CCP more to NOT wipe the build and see how this plays out. Therefore, they can better tune DUST for the balance issues it will have after release. |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
711
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Posted - 2012.12.17 00:50:00 -
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Wipe teh points. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
248
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Posted - 2012.12.17 00:54:00 -
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one thing to test is the player progression - the normal rate.
Last few builds we had 4x SP gain with no limits.
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Anyanka Shadowmane
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
80
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Posted - 2012.12.17 00:56:00 -
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Super Cargo wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:
Just to be fair for the new players that have joined recently. It benefits me if they allow reallocation of skill points and wipe everything else. But I'm looking out for the players that are curious about dust and have recently joined.
If there are more skill books and such to test then test them. We don't need all of our skill points to do so. People can sacrifice a week or suspend their acquisition of a proto dropsuit for a new skill book they'd like to test.
Ohh...and refund our AUR as well!!
I totally see where your logic is coming from. On the other hand, this problem will still be here when DUST releases. New players will be at a severe disadvantage with their only respite coming from joining corps and matchmaking. It will benefit CCP more to NOT wipe the build and see how this plays out. Therefore, they can better tune DUST for the balance issues it will have after release.
This is my main reason for voting no. |
Xander Mercy
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
91
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Posted - 2012.12.17 01:23:00 -
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yes says i |
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Sleepy Zan
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.12.17 01:31:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Yes to reallocated skill points, no to complete wipe. Why would you have another two month grind when we will potentially have more skill books to go into instead of letting us stay where we're at and just branch out Just to be fair for the new players that have joined recently. It benefits me if they allow reallocation of skill points and wipe everything else. But I'm looking out for the players that are curious about dust and have recently joined. If there are more skill books and such to test then test them. We don't need all of our skill points to do so. People can sacrifice a week or suspend their acquisition of a proto dropsuit for a new skill book they'd like to test. Ohh...and refund our AUR as well!!
I would have no problem with a wipe if there was no sp cap to force constraints on how far you can progress over a curtain period of time, but there is and if that doesn't change how about this: wipe everyone, reset their AUR, but give everyone 3-4,000,000 sp and around 20,000,000 isk. The amount is open to discussion but the simple point being is that there is really no reason for us to start back at zero under these conditions. |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
711
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Posted - 2012.12.18 00:27:00 -
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^ That is an amazing idea. Everyone can start off even, but not take weeks just to spec into basic drop suits or weapons they use and are familiar with. So start with the 2-3 mil sp and some isk! |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2012.12.18 00:29:00 -
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yes |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2012.12.18 00:29:00 -
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Skill realocation for this build, SP / ISK wipe for the next. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
285
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Posted - 2012.12.18 00:38:00 -
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I was going to abstain until I saw the majority negative reaction. What a bunch of bores you are. Don't you want the opportunity to try out something new?
Yes, sp reset or refund, let's actually test the game. |
KingBabar
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
442
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Posted - 2012.12.18 00:47:00 -
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Damn too late!
I was thinking 5 m skillpoints - everybody starts of equally - enough with the stomping
Equipment loss and AUR and merc pack stuff will reset.
5 mill isk for skills and gear, or perhaps less depending on skillbook and gear price changes
its a win - win - win situation provided that it doesnt kitten up CCPs stat tracking. y
It will certainly be a gesture the community will appreciate after monthes as fodder for various exploits and OP weaponry and whatnot. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error.
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Posted - 2012.12.18 00:48:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:Damn too late!
I was thinking 5 m skillpoints - everybody starts of equally - enough with the stomping
Equipment loss and AUR and merc pack stuff will reset.
5 mill isk for skills and gear, or perhaps less depending on skillbook and gear price changes
its a win - win - win situation provided that it doesnt kitten up CCPs stat tracking. y
It will certainly be a gesture the community will appreciate after monthes as fodder for various exploits and OP weaponry and whatnot.
tbh it's probably been said before by someone else anyway. |
Ribbons Reborns
Doomheim
68
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Posted - 2012.12.18 00:51:00 -
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I'll vote no on the SP wipe next build. SP reallocation might be nice but then again it kinda goes against the whole HTFU, "deal with it" mentality I support y'know?  I'm fine with nothing changing at all either. |
Obama DAT
Doomheim
389
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Posted - 2012.12.18 01:11:00 -
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Don't care either way. Will continue to play and test. |
Kosen Driago
WarRavens
25
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Posted - 2012.12.18 02:06:00 -
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I really hope there isnt..... |
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Enderr Wigginn
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
57
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Posted - 2012.12.18 02:45:00 -
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Only when they go to public beta. |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers
RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.12.18 02:53:00 -
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No. Nothing super new and shiny is in the patch notes so yeahh. If there were more toys then maybe.
But if they are focusing on stability then keep our SP. |
Rhadiem
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
496
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Posted - 2012.12.18 06:42:00 -
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It makes sense to wipe SP and ISK simply due to the benefits of seeing how the changes of things affect progression of characters.
If I were a dev, I'd want to figure what skills are most popular, what items are most bought, how much a "hardcore" and "casual" player makes to make sure things are balanced well, that sort of thing. You can't do that as effectively if you have prior build's loot, items and skills in the way. We're not customers, we're testers. Threatening to leave beta to play something else really isn't that productive when they could simply open the doors wider and get 2 replacements for you tomorrow.
That said, if there is a wipe, it'd be nice to get say $2M isk and 2M SP just to get people into the skill trees they like faster than completely from scratch. |
Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Zombie Ninja Space Bears
176
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Posted - 2012.12.18 07:03:00 -
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CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:No skill reset for the Chromosome update. But expect one when we migrate DUST to the TQ server.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=433270#post433270
Oh well guys no wipe. |
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