DUST Search - 14000 AUR per week on boosters ... How much for a year in real money?

Calgoth Reborn wrote:

Marston EV wrote:

Tony Calif wrote:

So how do you get 365 days of boosters both passive & active SP without spending that AUR?

you just dont...... unless you have the money. Thats how the system works, but your missing the point. Skill boosters are just a way to get people places faster, the idea behind this system is that everyone can get to the same spot eventually, weather one person gets there a week earlier or not really doesn't matter on the grand scheme of things. If this game launches with a hundred thousand people and the top 10% of them invest in skill boosters ect..... then you'll have 10,000 people who get ahead of the other 90,000 people by a little bit (if they play until they hit the sp cap) but because of the SP cap theres a limit to how far ahead someone can get per week. So my point is that, if someone wants to spend 30$ a month so that by the end of the month they get around 500 - 1 mill SP more then me..... well.... then so be it! In response ill either spend my own money on the game to help myself skill up a bit faster, or ill go buy a couple pizzas down the street, i dont really care.

furthermore if this game ends up anything like eve, then there will be a very in depth economy/market place. Im jussssttttt guesing but i know that on eve you can buy PLEX's off the market using isk (Plex would be the eve equivelent of AUR). SOOOOOO using logic, it would be understandable if someone in DUST would eventually be able to buy AUR with isk, and not spend a dime. Of course AUR would be expensive at rates like...... "10,000 AUR = 10,000,000 Million ISK" but thats just how its going to be. the cost of one PLEX in eve is 20$, and right now one PLEX costs over 500,000,000 million ISK in game. So you see guys...... thats how your going to get 365 days worth of boosters...... through paying!!! in isk...... (any complaints???)

You will be able to buy Aur item's on the market not aurum itself

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Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.12.09 15:19:00 - [1] - Quote Well, it's 14000 a week, so 64000 a month, and 728000 AUR a year. That's around -ú350 a year. Just to stay competative. With no UVT or AUR gear, that's JUST for SP. there is no other way to gain that Sp, except to pay. Who wants to spend -ú350 a year on a f2p game, and how many would not bother to play when we can't keep pace, because someone has more money than you? I have no wish to play a subscription game. Especially -ú30 a month.
JW v Weingarten SyNergy Gaming 300	Posted - 2012.12.09 15:20:00 - [2] - Quote You don't have to buy that much aurum.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.12.09 15:24:00 - [3] - Quote So how do you get 365 days of boosters both passive & active SP without spending that AUR?
KryptixX Imperfects Negative-Feedback 320	Posted - 2012.12.09 15:30:00 - [4] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: So how do you get 365 days of boosters both passive & active SP without spending that AUR? You dont be that much of a SP *****? Seriously after a year are u really gonna need SP boosters? your main class will be maxed out.
Vexen Krios Doomheim 95	Posted - 2012.12.09 15:40:00 - [5] - Quote KryptixX wrote: Tony Calif wrote: So how do you get 365 days of boosters both passive & active SP without spending that AUR? You dont be that much of a SP ***? Seriously after a year are u really gonna need SP boosters? your main class will be maxed out. not exactly, CCP wants the the SP to last of a period of 7 years. And your not required to pay for the boosters...or the UVT's If your in a Corp you dont need a UVT. Quote:** there is no other way to gain that Sp, except to pay you play the game, no one is making you pay for the boosters, you get to play more without hitting the sp cap as fast without boosters...sure people gain the sp faster than you but you get to play without hitting the cap so fast...most of us hit the cap before the week is over. Without the booster that wont happen.
Tenchu-13 What The French 76	Posted - 2012.12.09 15:40:00 - [6] - Quote Why would you even need that much boosters ?? I bought a few merc packs when they where on sale just to get a few months of active boosters stacked up since I don't have the time to play as much as some. There will always be people that play more then others... t If your only goal is to stay on top then better make sure to quit your job an invest shitloads in the the game, otherwise just enjoy it and play whenever you feel like it. just my 0.02 cts. (pretty damn cheap advice compared to you 350 quid...)
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.12.09 15:40:00 - [7] - Quote With new skills and such comming out yes. You might well want to get the latest tech as fast as you can. Unless CCP stop releasing new gear... Tbh, Tenchu ya right. No point me playing.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 742	Posted - 2012.12.09 15:46:00 - [8] - Quote Boosters really don't make that much of a big deal. I've got 6mil SP, I've used the 30 day booster I had and I bought a couple of 1 day boosters on the wednesday just to max out my SP cap so I didn't have to worry about grinding. It's really all about putting your skills into one thing instead of many.
ALM1GHTY STATIUS Imperfects Negative-Feedback 261	Posted - 2012.12.09 15:50:00 - [9] - Quote KryptixX wrote: Tony Calif wrote: So how do you get 365 days of boosters both passive & active SP without spending that AUR? You dont be that much of a SP *****? Seriously after a year are u really gonna need SP boosters? your main class will be maxed out. Sorry, but they plan to take 7 years w/o SP boosters, which means to max out one class should theoretically take you 2 1/3 years, but you can shorten that to only 1 1/6 with active, and even further with passive.
Icy Tiger Universal Allies Inc. 1026	Posted - 2012.12.09 15:53:00 - [10] - Quote Alright come on, we both know you're being picky. First of all, you say "we need all those boosters just to stay competitive". Booster cannot buy "skill" or "teamwork" and skill points still need to be earned. And what, you want to stay competitive with the 1-2 people who may buy boosters for the whole year?

Tenchu-13 What The French 76	Posted - 2012.12.09 15:54:00 - [11] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Tbh, Tenchu ya right. No point me playing. That's sooo not what I said, too bad you see it that way bro.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2282	Posted - 2012.12.09 15:57:00 - [12] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Boosters really don't make that much of a big deal. I've got 6mil SP, I've used the 30 day booster I had and I bought a couple of 1 day boosters on the wednesday just to max out my SP cap so I didn't have to worry about grinding. It's really all about putting your skills into one thing instead of many. this boosters arent a big deal
Cyn Bruin Imperfects Negative-Feedback 651	Posted - 2012.12.09 16:05:00 - [13] - Quote Passive boosters are a waste of time imo. The expense to gain ratio makes them not worth it. For that same 7k aurum you can buy the Active boosters for a week and make the SP in one day you would get out of the passive in 1 week. Least thats how I'm spending my aurum. I don't spend it on gear/modules or anything other than boosters. Don't be leaving Tony, you're a funny mf'r and I wanna see ya hang around...
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.12.09 16:08:00 - [14] - Quote LoL sure they're not. Only 50% additional SP. And we all know SP isn't OP facepalm This is more about price, and who wants to spend -ú300 a year and who just cba to play what we see as a p2w game. Not about my personally being pretty good, and now being a scrub because everyone has AR proficiency when I got grenades (which are rubbish btw).
Pent'noir Algintal Core Gallente Federation 61	Posted - 2012.12.09 16:34:00 - [15] - Quote Isn't a merc pack 20$, comes with a 30 day active booster and 40000 aur, which lets you get 4x 7 day passive booster for 28000 aur. You even have some aur left over to buy other aur items in a month. So if you went this way it would cost 240$ per year. Actual sub based games normally cost 15$ per month, so in a year thats 180$ per year. Yes, if you wanted to treat dust as a sub based game, then it is more expensive than other sub games, however, you do not have too. You can play the game for free and never put down actual cash. You will progress a bit slower, but in a years time, you would still have a really nice character if you kept to one profession. Then the last thing, once I get a nice character in a single profession, I will probably never buy a booster ever again. So i'll just be a squater, eating up their server space and being a demanding pain in the arse.
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 384	Posted - 2012.12.09 16:36:00 - [16] - Quote Why would anyone consistently buy boosters just to get ahead? Beyond the uvt, i could see very few people buying aur consistently
Leovarian L Lavitz Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 278	Posted - 2012.12.09 16:41:00 - [17] - Quote Additionally, once they fully integrate the secondary market (where you can buy/sell AUR items from other mercs for ISK) it won't be an issue anymore, in fact, all of the p2w evaporates once that is incorporated, imo because you can buy anything put on the market with isk then.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2012.12.09 16:43:00 - [18] - Quote Cough Buy Aurum Tokens with Isk Cough.
Marston EV Doomheim 75	Posted - 2012.12.09 16:54:00 - [19] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: So how do you get 365 days of boosters both passive & active SP without spending that AUR? you just dont...... unless you have the money. Thats how the system works, but your missing the point. Skill boosters are just a way to get people places faster, the idea behind this system is that everyone can get to the same spot eventually, weather one person gets there a week earlier or not really doesn't matter on the grand scheme of things. If this game launches with a hundred thousand people and the top 10% of them invest in skill boosters ect..... then you'll have 10,000 people who get ahead of the other 90,000 people by a little bit (if they play until they hit the sp cap) but because of the SP cap theres a limit to how far ahead someone can get per week. So my point is that, if someone wants to spend 30$ a month so that by the end of the month they get around 500 - 1 mill SP more then me..... well.... then so be it! In response ill either spend my own money on the game to help myself skill up a bit faster, or ill go buy a couple pizzas down the street, i dont really care. furthermore if this game ends up anything like eve, then there will be a very in depth economy/market place. Im jussssttttt guesing but i know that on eve you can buy PLEX's off the market using isk (Plex would be the eve equivelent of AUR). SOOOOOO using logic, it would be understandable if someone in DUST would eventually be able to buy AUR with isk, and not spend a dime. Of course AUR would be expensive at rates like...... "10,000 AUR = 10,000,000 Million ISK" but thats just how its going to be. the cost of one PLEX in eve is 20$, and right now one PLEX costs over 500,000,000 million ISK in game. So you see guys...... thats how your going to get 365 days worth of boosters...... through paying!!! in isk...... (any complaints???)
Calgoth Reborn United Front LLC 145	Posted - 2012.12.09 17:08:00 - [20] - Quote Marston EV wrote: Tony Calif wrote: So how do you get 365 days of boosters both passive & active SP without spending that AUR? you just dont...... unless you have the money. Thats how the system works, but your missing the point. Skill boosters are just a way to get people places faster, the idea behind this system is that everyone can get to the same spot eventually, weather one person gets there a week earlier or not really doesn't matter on the grand scheme of things. If this game launches with a hundred thousand people and the top 10% of them invest in skill boosters ect..... then you'll have 10,000 people who get ahead of the other 90,000 people by a little bit (if they play until they hit the sp cap) but because of the SP cap theres a limit to how far ahead someone can get per week. So my point is that, if someone wants to spend 30$ a month so that by the end of the month they get around 500 - 1 mill SP more then me..... well.... then so be it! In response ill either spend my own money on the game to help myself skill up a bit faster, or ill go buy a couple pizzas down the street, i dont really care. furthermore if this game ends up anything like eve, then there will be a very in depth economy/market place. Im jussssttttt guesing but i know that on eve you can buy PLEX's off the market using isk (Plex would be the eve equivelent of AUR). SOOOOOO using logic, it would be understandable if someone in DUST would eventually be able to buy AUR with isk, and not spend a dime. Of course AUR would be expensive at rates like...... "10,000 AUR = 10,000,000 Million ISK" but thats just how its going to be. the cost of one PLEX in eve is 20$, and right now one PLEX costs over 500,000,000 million ISK in game. So you see guys...... thats how your going to get 365 days worth of boosters...... through paying!!! in isk...... (any complaints???) You will be able to buy Aur item's on the market not aurum itself

Dust Goon Doomheim 22	Posted - 2012.12.09 17:31:00 - [21] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: LoL sure they're not. Only 50% additional SP. And we all know SP isn't OP facepalm This is more about price, and who wants to spend -ú300 a year and who just cba to play what we see as a p2w game. Not about my personally being pretty good, and now being a scrub because everyone has AR proficiency when I got grenades (which are rubbish btw). You make some good points about the cost of it, but to say that SP is overpowered is stupid, i'm 3m sp behind you and quite a few other people and i'm doing just fine, maybe that's because i know what skills to put my SP into to be effective.
Octavian Vetiver Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance 152	Posted - 2012.12.09 17:39:00 - [22] - Quote Calgoth Reborn wrote: Marston EV wrote: Tony Calif wrote: So how do you get 365 days of boosters both passive & active SP without spending that AUR? you just dont...... unless you have the money. Thats how the system works, but your missing the point. Skill boosters are just a way to get people places faster, the idea behind this system is that everyone can get to the same spot eventually, weather one person gets there a week earlier or not really doesn't matter on the grand scheme of things. If this game launches with a hundred thousand people and the top 10% of them invest in skill boosters ect..... then you'll have 10,000 people who get ahead of the other 90,000 people by a little bit (if they play until they hit the sp cap) but because of the SP cap theres a limit to how far ahead someone can get per week. So my point is that, if someone wants to spend 30$ a month so that by the end of the month they get around 500 - 1 mill SP more then me..... well.... then so be it! In response ill either spend my own money on the game to help myself skill up a bit faster, or ill go buy a couple pizzas down the street, i dont really care. furthermore if this game ends up anything like eve, then there will be a very in depth economy/market place. Im jussssttttt guesing but i know that on eve you can buy PLEX's off the market using isk (Plex would be the eve equivelent of AUR). SOOOOOO using logic, it would be understandable if someone in DUST would eventually be able to buy AUR with isk, and not spend a dime. Of course AUR would be expensive at rates like...... "10,000 AUR = 10,000,000 Million ISK" but thats just how its going to be. the cost of one PLEX in eve is 20$, and right now one PLEX costs over 500,000,000 million ISK in game. So you see guys...... thats how your going to get 365 days worth of boosters...... through paying!!! in isk...... (any complaints???) You will be able to buy Aur item's on the market not aurum itself I hate to tell you this. But, you can. On the EvE market there are aurum tokens that people sell for isk. They come in 100, 500 and 1,000 aurum. Each one looks different. More then likely since it's on the market. You'll have access.
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 384	Posted - 2012.12.09 17:47:00 - [23] - Quote Calgoth Reborn wrote: Marston EV wrote: Tony Calif wrote: So how do you get 365 days of boosters both passive & active SP without spending that AUR? you just dont...... unless you have the money. Thats how the system works, but your missing the point. Skill boosters are just a way to get people places faster, the idea behind this system is that everyone can get to the same spot eventually, weather one person gets there a week earlier or not really doesn't matter on the grand scheme of things. If this game launches with a hundred thousand people and the top 10% of them invest in skill boosters ect..... then you'll have 10,000 people who get ahead of the other 90,000 people by a little bit (if they play until they hit the sp cap) but because of the SP cap theres a limit to how far ahead someone can get per week. So my point is that, if someone wants to spend 30$ a month so that by the end of the month they get around 500 - 1 mill SP more then me..... well.... then so be it! In response ill either spend my own money on the game to help myself skill up a bit faster, or ill go buy a couple pizzas down the street, i dont really care. furthermore if this game ends up anything like eve, then there will be a very in depth economy/market place. Im jussssttttt guesing but i know that on eve you can buy PLEX's off the market using isk (Plex would be the eve equivelent of AUR). SOOOOOO using logic, it would be understandable if someone in DUST would eventually be able to buy AUR with isk, and not spend a dime. Of course AUR would be expensive at rates like...... "10,000 AUR = 10,000,000 Million ISK" but thats just how its going to be. the cost of one PLEX in eve is 20$, and right now one PLEX costs over 500,000,000 million ISK in game. So you see guys...... thats how your going to get 365 days worth of boosters...... through paying!!! in isk...... (any complaints???) You will be able to buy Aur item's on the market not aurum itself Actually you can directly buy aurum with isk in eve so I can't see a reason it won't be the same in dust
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 108	Posted - 2012.12.09 17:56:00 - [24] - Quote I don't think so. As it stands, I'll probably only buy Aurum if it's part of a package that contains some new BPO or I need more Aurum to purchase a new BPO in the store. If I'm really desperate, I might buy some Passive or Active Boosters, but that's highly unlikely. The notion that AUR is necessary to stay competitive is simply ridiculous. I remember there was some little game Facebook (army VS. army style) that some of my family from across space and time suckered me into playing. THAT was pay to win. There were these things you could ONLY buy that gave you a SERIOUS advantage in fights, so you literally couldn't be competitive if you didn't buy anything, which was a hassle to get the currency for anyway. Dropped that quicker than a...nothing appropriate comes to mind, too angry. I mean, they released the equivalent of GOD units with ridiculous stats.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Legacy Rising 404	Posted - 2012.12.09 19:06:00 - [25] - Quote First point is that the passive booster is a complete joke. It's actually more insulting than the monocle was because it's not a vanity item. The only players who it will appeal to are those with VERY little time to play the game and those who can't manage to earn any skillpoints in matches. I think the passive booster gives you another ~100,000 sp a week. Compare that to what the active booster gives an average player over the course of a week's matches and in the majority of cases the passive come out looking like a blatant rip-off targeted at customers whose life circumstances or skill level or both are such that they have basically no choice if they want to go somewhere in the game. Fine, business is business, but it still smells bad to me, and i'll never buy a passive booster as they are now. Second point is that the better players will still be a force to be reconed with even without boosters. That includes you Tony. So you're maybe a couple of million sp behind the Zitros after 2 months - who cares? You'll still be kicking ass and taking names in matches. Solo, mano a mano it might make a difference, but as time goes on the gap becomes less meaningful. The biggest difference i can see the boosters making for a TEAM is the flexibility of force composition. Again, once 6 months have passed this will cease to be an issue also. My feeling is i will invest in active boosters at the beginning, play hard to try and get on the good side of the skillpoint wave, and drop buying active boosters maybe 4 months into a character. After that, AUR for ISK if you really gotta have it. In that sense, AUR judiciously spent on BPOs will prolly save you enough ISK to buy boosters with ;)
PalaceGuard CrimeWave Syndicate 15	Posted - 2012.12.09 19:13:00 - [26] - Quote Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: Additionally, once they fully integrate the secondary market (where you can buy/sell AUR items from other mercs for ISK) it won't be an issue anymore, in fact, all of the p2w evaporates once that is incorporated, imo because you can buy anything put on the market with isk then. Bingo!
ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS 1NC 391	Posted - 2012.12.09 19:41:00 - [27] - Quote Tony, as it's Christmas, msg me your address and I'll send you a fiver. I'm loaded. Happy Christmas you tramp.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.12.09 19:57:00 - [28] - Quote It'd be good to get something worthwhile out of my eRage, and so far it seems the consensus agree passives are too expensive for their current gain. Secondly there is a great deal of faith in the ISK-AUR transfer/live market side of things. That's all cool. But I struggle for ISK because the payouts are just about balanced, if you aren't paying for your stuff with AUR. Which won't leave much for augmentations. I might be exaggerating some points, mostly due to how rubbish my lvl 5 grenades are, and how much damage I do by fitting a Duvolle & 10% damage mod to a typeA. I lose massive amounts of HP to do so, when if I had lvl 5 proficiency, I'd ALWAYS be doing that damage. I still need about 4 mil sp to get Proto suit & proficiencies down. That is a long time with current Sp system. I play these games for clan battles, because that's the only REAL competition. Currently, the 2-3 mil Sp makes me not worth fielding in a competative environment. So I'm stuck with redline pub games, where I don't actually care about who wins, or loses. PvE co-op might fix my troubles a little. That blue dot? The one sitting in the back our spawn behind the buildings? That's me. Because it's going to be up to the other guys from now on. (I might still call in one of my 165k ISK monster militia HAVs every 10 games or so... Gotta keep that ISK efficiency up yo? @ICECREAM Go thukker yourself, of all the people in all new eden, you sir will not be having my address :P I'll get myself a booster or 2 when the game goes live, but this current feeling I've had on many MMO's. eRageQQuit. Important CCP knows where particularly unpleasant SP differences occur so that their matchmaking might improve (I still say CCP are putting all groups on 1 team, and all randoms on the other).
Bane Nrahk Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2012.12.09 22:45:00 - [29] - Quote Bane 800k sp not scared crush all and feed puppy redmen
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2012.12.09 23:13:00 - [30] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Well, it's 14000 a week, so 64000 a month, and 728000 AUR a year. That's around -ú350 a year. Just to stay competative. With no UVT or AUR gear, that's JUST for SP. there is no other way to gain that Sp, except to pay. Who wants to spend -ú350 a year on a f2p game, and how many would not bother to play when we can't keep pace, because someone has more money than you? I have no wish to play a subscription game. Especially -ú30 a month. You just need to buy the merc pack every month. $20 per month.



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