I would just like to point out the 5 times i got hate mail for using modded controllers I was using the burst rifle. I used the tact but if it was more close range I would switch to duv or burst rifles. The sound of a burst with High Rate of Fire sounds much faster than anyone can fire a TAC.

I would also like to point out that both zitros would get hate mail when running DUVs not TACs. So many people are predisposed to players being really good = hackers some how.

I would like to thank those 5 people for the hate mail. Makes me feel like I am good player even if you are dumb and can't understand the difference between burst and TAC

lol. Look! All the players who have gun game (imperfects) say it isn't a big deal while all the terrible kids think that everyone is modding and they only suck because of modders and hackers.

You suck because you can't play worth crap. Not because modders have rapid fire controllers.

It's a PC thing. If CCP is allowing KBM there's no reason not to allow nodded controllers, it's the same basic premise. You pay for 3rd party hardware to give yourself an advantage, it's just a basic tenant of PC gaming.

you are being very ignorant my friend... Nobody is saying every tac we get hit by is modded, but I know and any sensible person knows that this gun has the ability to be abused and is abused by certain people who feel the need to have an advantage over others to look " cooler "

Who cares?

If they are so desperate that their ego comes from killing people with single-fire weapons and a modded controller than let them. There's no good way to prove and/or stop it and not enough people mod for it to be an issue.

Seems like the kiddies with no gun game are QQ again about losing.
Maybe its because we all have 5 to 7 Million in SP.. No that can't be it..
Maybe its because we have been playing for 5 to10 months on Dust..no that can't be it.
Maybe its because all of us are old FPS vets and can do this in our sleep.. nope thats not it..

Well dang it must be a modded controller then...

Seriously if that is your logic, then go play COD with the other kids.

If anyone thinks people are using a mod for a standard or assault rifle, they are crazy and delusional.. but you know and alot people know, including people who won't admit it that when it comes to a single shot weapon that has the ability to fire rapidly it will be abused, not just this game but every damn competetive shooter out there.

Just because you use it and don't have a mod, doesn't mean the guy next to you doesn't either. It has the ability to become an OP weapon when using mod , no matter how you look at it and people will jump on it for the all mighty KDR EPEEN

QFT

I made a similar argument a few posts back. None of the QQers addressed my post, so it must be right

I never said the problem didn't exist. I'm saying two things:

1) No one with any amount of skill has had issues with modders.

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Therefore the problem seems to be people who suck

2) Rapid-fire controllers don't matter in Dust, weapons have a RoF cap. (Yes, even the single shot)

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Therefore the problem seems to be people who suck


Sure, there are modders out there. But unless you are the unlucky soul who manages to play against every single modder on PSN, then I think the problem has to do with your skill and not those dirty dirty modders.

The point I was trying to make is I have used tac and switched to burst rifle in matches and still got lots of kills. I would then get hate mail for using a mod controller because they could hear my bullets fire super fast. When I was actually using the burst rifle. So a lot of the hate of modded controllers aren't always from the keen of mind.

Are there players using modded controllers? Probably. CCP should limit ROF but keep it high as I support the idea of letting people with quick trigger fingers have a gun for them to use. I like the idea of individual skill playing a big part in dust.

Maybe they should do it another way. Make the cap stupid high but have recoil dependent inverse of time between shots. So a modded controller would be pointing straight up after less than 2 shots while a player can adapt their recoil management and trigger speed to sync. Possible outside the box solution - just make using a modded controller an expensive waste of time.

I have yet to see anybody who I'd claim to be using a modded controller, so the 10% figure sounds pretty outlandish.

Reminds me of when people would accuse me and my clanmates of scrollwheel-firing in PC shooters.

That's an interesting solution, might be on to something, however not quite that drastic as there are some people who are fairly quick on the short burst 2-3 quick shots.

No it doesn't. The weapon is not being exploited. If great players using a gun that actually takes skill to use is called an exploit, I have lost faith in humanity.

Tactical AR is being used as intended. It's a far to medium range rifle, it does it job. It's hard to use at close range. I see absolutely no problem with it. It has it's pluses and negatives just like every other gun.

That's an interesting solution, might be on to something, however not quite that drastic as there are some people who are fairly quick on the short burst 2-3 quick shots.

if next week some guy is shooting mass drivers like an AR it would be an issue.

Is it any more outlandish than the other guy's 0.0001% figure?

As I said, it's impossible to get accurate figures due to the nature of players and modified controllers. The figure may be 5% or even 50%. The world will never know.

I'd love to fight a mass driver that could do that, because most mass driver users are bad, so they'd dump their 4-6 rounds in an instant and not hit anybody because they don't have time to compensate their aim, and then I'd get to kill them while they're reloading. Sadly, mass drivers are set at somewhere in the realm of 60rpm or so, so you'd never see it even with a modded controller.



Considering I've personally seen zero, 0.0001% is closer to that than 3 people in every game with one.

It still does not mean they don't exist, so no matter the numbers they are there

And as Beers said, he's gotten accusations of using a modded controller while using the burst rifle. Just because the claims are there, doesn't mean they're correct. The burden of proof falls on those claiming existence, and I have yet to see any evidence pointing to it other than "omg but he shoots so fast."

And at the same time beers said, "do people use modded controllers in dust? Probably. " Sure 3/5 complaints of a modded control are most likely just whiners, but when you have a consistant thunk thunk thunk thunk thunk thunk no variation hit you in a split second and your dead, something is up my brother. And I know the difference between a burst and a tactical ( especially when it tells me what I died by anyways), and realize the advantages to using the tactical with a mod controller. You can try to redicule, and make me look a fool and scrub all you want, but you will never convince me that modded controllers do not exist in this game.