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Death On Contact
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.12.07 16:59:00 -
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I've been online gaming (FPS & MMO) since I got out of the USMC in '97 and started gaming overall in 1980 with ATARI. Lets not even get into dice and paper (Yeah dork I know). Never once did I use any software or hardware that gave me an advantage. I played the games raw as they were intended. But then again thats just me.... Whats with these modded controllers!? Are you that pathetic and fail that much at life that your only satisfaction is having big numbers in a video game by any means?! Doesn't it defeat the purpose of testing yourself against people from all over the world using strategy and teamwork?! In my opinion, your not good and your numbers mean nothing if all your doing is pointing and letting the rapidfire do the rest. Is everyone who plays this game going to have to buy/use modded controllers to even stand a chance when it really matters?!
My .02 Bring on the hate.
Death On Contact |
DarkShadowFox
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
238
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Posted - 2012.12.07 17:03:00 -
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Death On Contact wrote:I've been online gaming (FPS & MMO) since I got out of the USMC in '97 and started gaming overall in 1980 with ATARI. Lets not even get into dice and paper (Yeah dork I know). Never once did I use any software or hardware that gave me an advantage. I played the games raw as they were intended. But then again thats just me.... Whats with these modded controllers!? Are you that pathetic and fail that much at life that your only satisfaction is having big numbers in a video game by any means?! Doesn't it defeat the purpose of testing yourself against people from all over the world using strategy and teamwork?! In my opinion, your not good and your numbers mean nothing if all your doing is pointing and letting the rapidfire do the rest. Is everyone who plays this game going to have to buy/use modded controllers to even stand a chance when it really matters?!
My .02 Bring on the hate.
Death On Contact
Nod I agree with you, CCP needs to work out a system with sony so that only their controllers can work with the new system aka they have to be stock and have the orginal serial numbers which would be registered to the system at the factory and registered to the firmware.
Break a controller? Have to replace it, you have to send your ps3 back and have new ones reregistered. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2012.12.07 17:06:00 -
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I honestly don't care enough if people want to use mod controllers. The counters to such things are far more of a hassle then the benefits to the solution. It's not like the controller helps them point, imo when the move controller is completely fixed up it'll have the biggest advantage. You can shoot all you want, doesn't matter if you can't aim. |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
317
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Posted - 2012.12.07 17:15:00 -
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Fixes to modded controllers can be pretty easy. Very few weapons actually gain any major benefit from a modded controller (tact AR being only one I can think of off of the top of my head). This is an easy fix for the tact AR....make the ROF less than the breach ROF. That would fix this issue for the tact AR. If anyone can think of another gun that benefits from a modded controller then post that here as I cant think of any others at this time. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2012.12.07 17:16:00 -
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I don't see it being addressed anytime in the foreseeable future. It seems that most console developers are lax in their policy towards hacked controllers and peripherals. Microsoft for example was more than happy to allow people to hack the Kinect system. Then there are the hacked Wii consoles with Home Brew installed. PS3 is no different either.
There is an old saying amongst hackers. Just because something is claimed to be unhackable it doesn't mean hackers will stop trying. Someone will figure something out. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
641
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Posted - 2012.12.07 18:16:00 -
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How do you detect a modded controller? All it does is make R1 (or w/e button you wanted) engage, and disengage quickly. The ONLY way to counter this is to cap the fire rate of weapons.
I have played games where devs cap the ROF on weapons, and my trigger finger was easily reaching this cap.
Maken Tosch wrote:I don't see it being addressed anytime in the foreseeable future. It seems that most console developers are lax in their policy towards hacked controllers and peripherals. Microsoft for example was more than happy to allow people to hack the Kinect system. Then there are the hacked Wii consoles with Home Brew installed. PS3 is no different either.
There is an old saying amongst hackers. Just because something is claimed to be unhackable it doesn't mean hackers will stop trying. Someone will figure something out.
You do realize that hacking consoles, and running homebrew is something completely different to modding a controller right? How is a modded controller even remotely advantages with weapons that have a ROF cap?
People are making a big deal out of nothing. Modded controllers have been around for a long time now. Having a M+KB is more of a cheat on console than a modded controller.
More pew pew and less QQ |
Omnipotens Zitro
Doomheim
425
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Posted - 2012.12.07 18:25:00 -
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So who are you accussing of a modded controller?
My brother and myself use the tact with pure trigger finger. I have only seen one player use a modded controller. Guess what? He shot a lot slower than us. I know one player who use a macro and he still shoots a lot slower than us.
It is not hard to shoot fast with the tactical. All you QQ'ers should try to shoot the tactical as fast as you can to see how easy it is. Before complaining that everybody is using a modded controller.
My brother and myself have been told that we been using a modded controller since call of duty 2(2006)!!!! We have never wasted a dime on a modded controller and never will. My trigger finger is so much better than a stupid modded controller. |
Destroyer Rob
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2012.12.07 18:56:00 -
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KB/M support has a much bigger effect than modded controllers for this game |
Altina McAlterson
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
362
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Posted - 2012.12.07 18:59:00 -
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Omnipotens Zitro wrote:So who are you accussing of a modded controller?
My brother and myself use the tact with pure trigger finger. I have only seen one player use a modded controller. Guess what? He shot a lot slower than us. I know one player who use a macro and he still shoots a lot slower than us.
It is not hard to shoot fast with the tactical. All you QQ'ers should try to shoot the tactical as fast as you can to see how easy it is. Before complaining that everybody is using a modded controller.
My brother and myself have been told that we been using a modded controller since call of duty 2(2006)!!!! We have never wasted a dime on a modded controller and never will. My trigger finger is so much better than a stupid modded controller.
Only benefit I ever saw to it was maybe not having the motion of repeated button presses throwing off your aim. Less motion involved in simply holding the button down. I dunno though, not really anything in the game that a modded controller would really make a big difference. Only a few things in general I can think of that a modded controller being really useful for in any game.
But to the OP, yea I got no respect for people that cheat. It's lame and annoying.
Destroyer Rob wrote:KB/M support has a much bigger effect than modded controllers for this game Especially if you try to use a Tac rifle. |
Los Silencio
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
123
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Posted - 2012.12.07 18:59:00 -
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Got called out via mail for using one last night. You know who you are. You visit here. All I can say is that accusing someone of using a modded controller is a bit presumptuous and maybe says something of the accusers gun game/strafe skills. Apparently, I was told, CCP has the ability to detect modded controller use, I just cannot confirm this. The Zitro Bros are the real deal. Fizzy is the real deal. Some ppl just have better stick play than others. Instead of QQing about it, maybe ask them for advice. At least you would be adding "construction" to said "criticism".
PS- I have too many RL bills to pay and I would rather NOT spend the $150-$200 dollars or whatever high price it is. Hell, I'd just buy another slim to replace my Fatboy PS. |
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Altina McAlterson
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
362
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Posted - 2012.12.07 19:11:00 -
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Los Silencio wrote:Got called out via mail for using one last night. You know who you are. You visit here. All I can say is that accusing someone of using a modded controller is a bit presumptuous and maybe says something of the accusers gun game/strafe skills. Apparently, I was told, CCP has the ability to detect modded controller use, I just cannot confirm this. The Zitro Bros are the real deal. Fizzy is the real deal. Some ppl just have better stick play than others. Instead of QQing about it, maybe ask them for advice. At least you would be adding "construction" to said "criticism".
PS- I have too many RL bills to pay and I would rather NOT spend the $150-$200 dollars or whatever high price it is. Hell, I'd just buy another slim to replace my Fatboy PS.
I'm calling you out right now for using smoke bombs or a hacked cloak or venus-refracted swamp gas or something. Couple games with you recently I swear you'd vanish in the middle of an open field. Fun times, always a good game with someone that can use the terrain and make you really hunt them. |
Reiki Jubo
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
63
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Posted - 2012.12.07 19:13:00 -
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the fire rate is going to have to manually be lowered. the weapon is being exploited and isnt being used as intended. all the weapons in the game have roles and the tac AR is exceeding its. at least it was caught in beta.
imagine if someone was automatic firing with the sniper rifle. because thats the equivalent of whats happening. |
Omnipotens Zitro
Doomheim
425
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Posted - 2012.12.07 19:31:00 -
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Reiki Jubo wrote:the fire rate is going to have to manually be lowered. the weapon is being exploited and isnt being used as intended. all the weapons in the game have roles and the tac AR is exceeding its. at least it was caught in beta.
imagine if someone was automatic firing with the sniper rifle. because thats the equivalent of whats happening. No it doesn't. The weapon is not being exploited. If great players using a gun that actually takes skill to use is called an exploit, I have lost faith in humanity.
Tactical AR is being used as intended. It's a far to medium range rifle, it does it job. It's hard to use at close range. I see absolutely no problem with it. It has it's pluses and negatives just like every other gun. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.12.07 19:36:00 -
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Omnipotens Zitro wrote:Reiki Jubo wrote:the fire rate is going to have to manually be lowered. the weapon is being exploited and isnt being used as intended. all the weapons in the game have roles and the tac AR is exceeding its. at least it was caught in beta.
imagine if someone was automatic firing with the sniper rifle. because thats the equivalent of whats happening. No it doesn't. The weapon is not being exploited. If great players using a gun that actually takes skill to use is called an exploit, I have lost faith in humanity. Tactical AR is being used as intended. It's a far to medium range rifle, it does it job. It's hard to use at close range. I see absolutely no problem with it. It has it's pluses and negatives just like every other gun.
and it can fire 10 shots in a straight line in a sec with a simple click on a modded controller
It's pretty obvious when you die to a guy with TAC and no mod, and a guy with TAC and mod |
Douglas Edom
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.12.07 19:39:00 -
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I received a knock off controller that was sold through amazon. I naturally thought the dust controls were junk, until a friend of mine brought over an official PS3 controller that was bundled with his system. I've tested other 3rd Party PS3 controllers, and found out none of them really function well with Dust.
It's no use playing Dust514 unless you anticipate opening the shrink wrap to a new PS3 controller. |
DEADPOOL5241
Doomheim
212
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Posted - 2012.12.07 19:41:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Omnipotens Zitro wrote:Reiki Jubo wrote:the fire rate is going to have to manually be lowered. the weapon is being exploited and isnt being used as intended. all the weapons in the game have roles and the tac AR is exceeding its. at least it was caught in beta.
imagine if someone was automatic firing with the sniper rifle. because thats the equivalent of whats happening. No it doesn't. The weapon is not being exploited. If great players using a gun that actually takes skill to use is called an exploit, I have lost faith in humanity. Tactical AR is being used as intended. It's a far to medium range rifle, it does it job. It's hard to use at close range. I see absolutely no problem with it. It has it's pluses and negatives just like every other gun. and it can fire 10 shots in a straight line in a sec with a simple click on a modded controller It's pretty obvious when you die to a guy with TAC and no mod, and a guy with TAC and mod
Dude give me a break, now you are making this up.
Sides even if you could do it, you still need to aim and fire, strafe and move.
K/M blow any and all modded controllers out of the water... |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2012.12.07 19:41:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:How do you detect a modded controller? All it does is make R1 (or w/e button you wanted) engage, and disengage quickly. The ONLY way to counter this is to cap the fire rate of weapons. I have played games where devs cap the ROF on weapons, and my trigger finger was easily reaching this cap. Maken Tosch wrote:I don't see it being addressed anytime in the foreseeable future. It seems that most console developers are lax in their policy towards hacked controllers and peripherals. Microsoft for example was more than happy to allow people to hack the Kinect system. Then there are the hacked Wii consoles with Home Brew installed. PS3 is no different either.
There is an old saying amongst hackers. Just because something is claimed to be unhackable it doesn't mean hackers will stop trying. Someone will figure something out. You do realize that hacking consoles, and running homebrew is something completely different to modding a controller right? How is a modded controller even remotely advantages with weapons that have a ROF cap? People are making a big deal out of nothing. Modded controllers have been around for a long time now. Having a M+KB is more of a cheat on console than a modded controller. More pew pew and less QQ
Modified controllers require someone to break into them and rewire it. A simple class on basic electricity and how to use a soldering gun plus some knowledge on how to work with controllers is all it takes (the internet provides a **** ton of information on that). Of course, one can simply purchase an already-modded controller from a company that specializes in producing them or a specialist that knows what he's doing. You can find them anywhere.
I'm not making a big deal out of it. I'm just pointing out the obvious fact that console companies just don't bother very much with cracking down on users utilizing modified controllers. Some don't even bother at all as they don't want to alienate their clients (it's all about the Benjamins). |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.12.07 19:42:00 -
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Douglas Edom wrote:I received a knock off controller that was sold through amazon. I naturally thought the dust controls were junk, until a friend of mine brought over an official PS3 controller that was bundled with his system. I've tested other 3rd Party PS3 controllers, and found out none of them really function well with Dust.
It's no use playing Dust514 unless you anticipate opening the shrink wrap to a new PS3 controller.
Your ps3 didn't come with a DS3 Six Axis controller? Only one to use, others will be junk unless it is sony official.. it's their system, they going to have the better design :p |
Super Cargo
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2012.12.07 19:45:00 -
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I'm all against cheaters, but seriously how many people are actually modding their controller? .0001%?
I don't think it's a big issue on console. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.12.07 19:47:00 -
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Super Cargo wrote:I'm all against cheaters, but seriously how many people are actually modding their controller? .0001%?
I don't think it's a big issue on console.
you don't have to mod your own these days, you can buy them ready to go or get a guy who does it in practically every city to do it for 20-50 bucks.
I don't use them but I own 1 for ps3 and 1 for my xbox360 , ps3 one came with 3 controllers I bought off a guy on a local internet yard sale site, and the xbox one came with xbox360 I bought off a guy on same site |
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Super Cargo
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2012.12.07 19:49:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Super Cargo wrote:I'm all against cheaters, but seriously how many people are actually modding their controller? .0001%?
I don't think it's a big issue on console. you don't have to mod your own these days, you can buy them ready to go or get a guy who does it in practically every city to do it for 20-50 bucks
So? My point still stands. How many people are actually doing it?
I contend it's not enough to be a major problem. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.12.07 19:57:00 -
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Super Cargo wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Super Cargo wrote:I'm all against cheaters, but seriously how many people are actually modding their controller? .0001%?
I don't think it's a big issue on console. you don't have to mod your own these days, you can buy them ready to go or get a guy who does it in practically every city to do it for 20-50 bucks So? My point still stands. How many people are actually doing it? I contend it's not enough to be a major problem.
It's alot more than you think, certainly more than .0001% |
Super Cargo
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2012.12.07 20:00:00 -
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Alright, I'll bite.
Where are all these modders? What evidence have you seen that suggests its prolific enough to be a problem?
I threw out a random number, but you threw out a random claim. Let's seem some facts. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2012.12.07 20:00:00 -
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Super Cargo wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Super Cargo wrote:I'm all against cheaters, but seriously how many people are actually modding their controller? .0001%?
I don't think it's a big issue on console. you don't have to mod your own these days, you can buy them ready to go or get a guy who does it in practically every city to do it for 20-50 bucks So? My point still stands. How many people are actually doing it? I contend it's not enough to be a major problem.
It's impossible to get the approximate number of people using them. Many don't outright admit using them online and some even try to sneak one in during a local tournament. And considering that there is profit to be made from selling modified controllers to local players, I think your 0.0001% estimate is a gross under estimate. I would say at least 10% as I occasionally run into people in real life who use them. |
thoragard
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2012.12.07 20:03:00 -
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I used to be naive and think everyone was playing with the same equipment as I was , but spend enough time online and you will realize that more people are cheating than you would expect. cheating cheaters are cheating. gimme a stock set of stix and pure skill and IGÇÖll put up comparable numbers to the cheating trash. Makes you think how bad they would be if they played by the rules. |
Omnipotens Zitro
Doomheim
425
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Posted - 2012.12.07 20:03:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Super Cargo wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Super Cargo wrote:I'm all against cheaters, but seriously how many people are actually modding their controller? .0001%?
I don't think it's a big issue on console. you don't have to mod your own these days, you can buy them ready to go or get a guy who does it in practically every city to do it for 20-50 bucks So? My point still stands. How many people are actually doing it? I contend it's not enough to be a major problem. It's alot more than you think, certainly more than .0001% I have only seen 1 modded controller and 1 macro kb/m. I play all day against everyone.
So if you know so much about who is using a modded controller. Start naming names! So I can tell you the one person who is using a modded control and the rest that are using trigger fingers. |
thoragard
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2012.12.07 20:09:00 -
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Super Cargo wrote:Alright, I'll bite.
Where are all these modders? What evidence have you seen that suggests its prolific enough to be a problem?
I threw out a random number, but you threw out a random claim. Let's seem some facts. http://youtu.be/bcfLfk7eY8Y
http://youtu.be/Ug_En-qCFic
http://youtu.be/uRa87GhapMQ
http://youtu.be/ymFm-BKfoPQ
do i need to post more? that took 15 seconds on you tube. |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1031
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Posted - 2012.12.07 20:09:00 -
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I would just like to point out the 5 times i got hate mail for using modded controllers I was using the burst rifle. I used the tact but if it was more close range I would switch to duv or burst rifles. The sound of a burst with High Rate of Fire sounds much faster than anyone can fire a TAC.
I would also like to point out that both zitros would get hate mail when running DUVs not TACs. So many people are predisposed to players being really good = hackers some how.
I would like to thank those 5 people for the hate mail. Makes me feel like I am good player even if you are dumb and can't understand the difference between burst and TAC |
PIMP MAC DADDY
A.I.
41
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Posted - 2012.12.07 20:11:00 -
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Its anoying when people use the codewish with a modded controller |
Super Cargo
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2012.12.07 20:19:00 -
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lol. Look! All the players who have gun game (imperfects) say it isn't a big deal while all the terrible kids think that everyone is modding and they only suck because of modders and hackers.
You suck because you can't play worth crap. Not because modders have rapid fire controllers. |
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