I've put some thougth into an idea of how the gameplay of Dust 514 in relation to Eve should be.



We all should be familiar with Goonswarm and how in 2007 they came together and claimed most of the land for their own free will. Its also come to my attention between me and my friends who play eve that Goonswarm can not fall even if everyone in the game tried to attack them at once.



Knowing this I would like to suggest that if in Dust 514 you can 'own' planets for your corporation / alliance then I'd like to say let there be a percentage cap (25%) that an corporation / alliance can own out of all the planets in the game.



Or



Dont allow corporations / alliances to 'own' planets.



Hopefully there will be at least one person out there that will agree with me on this one, ive also emailed this to the support email becuase i feel that this is kinda important and should be known be more people so we dont have a Goonswarm invasion of this game.

They already said we will be able to own planets and have stated as much everytime asked. How many and who owns them ccp doesn't care.

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It could be that the introduction of DUST will allow corps to hire DUST mercs and break the control of Goonswarm over parts of a system. It might be that Goonswarm manage enough of a hold in DUST that it only reinforces their control of things.

It depends on CCP, Goonswarm, and the non-Goon DUST players. All of us have to just play our parts and see what happens.

I mean, even the roman empire felt...

I don't see this scenario as a problem, and I think we should be able to own planets without limit, though there could be a mechanic making it harder to maintain control of planets the more planets you have.

What did they feel.....?

There is. It comes with your logistical supply chains, offensive, and defensive assets being stretched too thin. Spread too far and your flanks become weak.

how would subdivisions prevent people from working together? Instead on one big monster we will have a hoard of little monsters working togeather. I'm here to play in a space sand box not to kitten and moan about politice.

as for your second idea, I've got the perfect game for you.

What did they feel.....?

ps ~ since my link may not have provided context on its own.

Ask BoB about being "the" power in New Eden.

I'm sure that someone with a better grasp of EVE history can school me on this statement with a little effort and desire to troll, but the point itself remains regardless.

I've put some thougth into an idea of how the gameplay of Dust 514 in relation to Eve should be.



We all should be familiar with Goonswarm and how in 2007 they came together and claimed most of the land for their own free will. Its also come to my attention between me and my friends who play eve that Goonswarm can not fall even if everyone in the game tried to attack them at once.



Knowing this I would like to suggest that if in Dust 514 you can 'own' planets for your corporation / alliance then I'd like to say let there be a percentage cap (25%) that an corporation / alliance can own out of all the planets in the game.



Or



Dont allow corporations / alliances to 'own' planets.



Hopefully there will be at least one person out there that will agree with me on this one, ive also emailed this to the support email becuase i feel that this is kinda important and should be known be more people so we dont have a Goonswarm invasion of this game.

Firstly, goons don't own all of space. Secondly, they use numbers to win fights, not necessarily skill.

It could be that the introduction of DUST will allow corps to hire DUST mercs and break the control of Goonswarm over parts of a system. It might be that Goonswarm manage enough of a hold in DUST that it only reinforces their control of things.

It depends on CCP, Goonswarm, and the non-Goon DUST players. All of us have to just play our parts and see what happens.

I doubt you'll see a massive goon invasion any time soon. You have to keep in mind that:

A: Not everybody owns a PS3 or has any desire to buy one.

B: Fewer still have a positive opinion of Dust and it's chances of success.

Maybe once it's live and gets some numbers, Goons and the like would have some incentive to join in. Right now though, it's a bit of a minority

Maybe someday mercs in DUST 514 can claim the defeat of goonswarm ....
I mean, even the roman empire fell...
EDIT: Absurd English mistake

I don't see this scenario as a problem, and I think we should be able to own planets without limit, though there could be a mechanic making it harder to maintain control of planets the more planets you have.

There is no "goon problem". I have been blown up by a Goon once in the last 8 months of playing eve and in that time I haven't set foot in high sec.

Eve is VERY big, space is VERY big, lots of room for everyone. You might want to be more worried about The Imperfects or ROFL house stealing all of your contracts because that is a more likely scenario.

You guys realise goonswarm already collapsed, yeah?

They reappeared as Goonswarm Federation and are now BBFs with the largest alliance in EVE. The two of them combined control more space than anyone else, and if you think you're going to steal planets from off of them... let me ask: How?

A lot of people seem to think the game now is how the finished thing will work. It won't. For those of you who do not play EVE, let me elaborate:

EVE is broken down into regions, then constellations, then systems, then stations (In DUST's case, replace Station with Planet). Each REGION has it's own market. Once you get out into Nullsec regions there is _NO MARKET_. The market is created and maintained by the Alliances who own that space, so Goonswarm (We'll use them as we're talking about them) will mine the minerals which they will then use to create their ships\modules and soon, DUST's soldiers armour and weapons and even vehicles.

If you're invade Goonswarms space, how will you resupply? Simply put: you won't. They'll have the market, you'll either need funding from another large corp\alliance, or you won't do it. You may be able to supply yourselves but will one planet match whole systems? Your arms and armour trade routes will be blockaded and they will simply choke your resources while sending massive swarms of better equipped soldiers (Ones they kitted out) to come clear you out.

The game we play now is located in empire space and we buy from the NPC market. Once we intergrate with EVE this NPC market will only exist in empire, not Null. Remember too, if you buy your weapons and armour in Jita, you need it shipped out to Nullsec. Who's going to take it? NPC warbarges? Alliance owned Warbarges? Goonswarm _WILL_ intercept them.

Don't delude yourselves, I think it'll be wonderful if Dustbunnies could topple alliances, but when it comes to Nullsec. You'll be fighting FOR alliances, not against them

I'm not disagreeing with you but there are a lot of misconceptions on how things regarding market and logistics will work. I'n not going to type it all out but ask nova in irc. He has only told it like 400 times and is much better thatn I

I'm going by how it is on EVE and how we're going to be integrated into the EVE Market and how we've been told in dev interviews how we're going to integrate. That's how I see it happening.

Either way, there is no way a bunch of ground pounders can match the industrial output of EVE's largest alliances. I'm more curious how forces will move around Null too. I know at the FanFest a dev said, in relation to EVE players attacking Dusties on the move: "Not at the start but definitely later."

Guess we'll see. I just don't see poor foot sloggers having much luck against the vast fleets on the largest Alliances. Especially Goonswarm, heh.