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Vallud Eadesso
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Posted - 2012.11.13 18:57:00 -
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Kris Schnell wrote:I've put some thougth into an idea of how the gameplay of Dust 514 in relation to Eve should be.
We all should be familiar with Goonswarm and how in 2007 they came together and claimed most of the land for their own free will. Its also come to my attention between me and my friends who play eve that Goonswarm can not fall even if everyone in the game tried to attack them at once.
Knowing this I would like to suggest that if in Dust 514 you can 'own' planets for your corporation / alliance then I'd like to say let there be a percentage cap (25%) that an corporation / alliance can own out of all the planets in the game.
Or
Dont allow corporations / alliances to 'own' planets.
Hopefully there will be at least one person out there that will agree with me on this one, ive also emailed this to the support email becuase i feel that this is kinda important and should be known be more people so we dont have a Goonswarm invasion of this game.
I have to say, as much as I roll my eyes at Goonswam's antics (And occasionally chuckle, come on, some of the stuff they do CAN be funny, like Burn Jita) you can't stop them or anyone else owning their own space. It's part of the game, DUST is more like an expansion to EVE, not a stand alone product. |
Vallud Eadesso
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Posted - 2012.12.01 02:28:00 -
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You guys realise goonswarm already collapsed, yeah?
They reappeared as Goonswarm Federation and are now BBFs with the largest alliance in EVE. The two of them combined control more space than anyone else, and if you think you're going to steal planets from off of them... let me ask: How?
A lot of people seem to think the game now is how the finished thing will work. It won't. For those of you who do not play EVE, let me elaborate:
EVE is broken down into regions, then constellations, then systems, then stations (In DUST's case, replace Station with Planet). Each REGION has it's own market. Once you get out into Nullsec regions there is _NO MARKET_. The market is created and maintained by the Alliances who own that space, so Goonswarm (We'll use them as we're talking about them) will mine the minerals which they will then use to create their ships\modules and soon, DUST's soldiers armour and weapons and even vehicles.
If you're invading Goonswarm's space, how will you resupply? Simply put: you won't. They'll have the market, you'll either need funding from another large corp\alliance, or you won't do it. You may be able to supply yourselves but will one planet match whole systems? Your arms and armour trade routes will be blockaded and they will simply choke your resources while sending massive swarms of better equipped soldiers (Ones they kitted out) to come clear you out.
The game we play now is located in empire space and we buy from the NPC market. Once we intergrate with EVE this NPC market will only exist in empire, not Null. Remember too, if you buy your weapons and armour in Jita, you need it shipped out to Nullsec. Who's going to take it? NPC warbarges? Alliance owned Warbarges? Goonswarm _WILL_ intercept them.
Don't delude yourselves, I think it'll be wonderful if Dustbunnies could topple alliances, but when it comes to Nullsec. You'll be fighting FOR alliances, not against them |
Vallud Eadesso
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Posted - 2012.12.01 02:41:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:
I'm not disagreeing with you but there are a lot of misconceptions on how things regarding market and logistics will work. I'n not going to type it all out but ask nova in irc. He has only told it like 400 times and is much better thatn I
I'm going by how it is on EVE and how we're going to be integrated into the EVE Market and how we've been told in dev interviews how we're going to integrate. That's how I see it happening.
Either way, there is no way a bunch of ground pounders can match the industrial output of EVE's largest alliances. I'm more curious how forces will move around Null too. I know at the FanFest a dev said, in relation to EVE players attacking Dusties on the move: "Not at the start but definitely later."
Guess we'll see. I just don't see poor foot sloggers having much luck against the vast fleets on the largest Alliances. Especially Goonswarm, heh. |
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