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Sir Meode
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.11.06 12:39:00 -
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this thread is epic :D keep up the good work Dark Cloud |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.06 12:39:00 -
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Gaechti wrote:Heres my IP, try flood me: 127.0.0.1
Pretty please! I always wanted to be attacked! thanks for providing a loop back IP address. Sigh. |
Tailss Prower
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.11.06 12:41:00 -
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Sir Meode wrote:this thread is epic :D keep up the good work Dark Cloud
the funny part is he doesn't even need to post again cause they all keep going on about it LOL thats just sad |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.11.06 12:55:00 -
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Tailss Prower wrote:Sir Meode wrote:this thread is epic :D keep up the good work Dark Cloud the funny part is he doesn't even need to post again cause they all keep going on about it LOL thats just sad
Lol I know just a few lines and off it goes |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
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Posted - 2012.11.06 12:58:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:CCP i would advise to monitor all incoming and outcoming data from all players. Because you can actually win something. You never know if some 1 could pull off a DOS attack. Not calling names or corps but there are rumors out there. Simply saying making people to lag out/disconnect from tourny matches.
Check out this post from jumpman aka protoman. Now in this post jumpman aka protoman says one of his "friends" "tested" a modded controller in Dust and it works like a charm. So he admits that his "friend" uses modded controllers.
Now we all know that jump doesnt really have any "friends". You can actually count them on your fingers. And this person obviously has to be playing with jump. Now if my memory serves me correct, using any unfair means (modded controllers) in battle in a banable offense. And here we have jump admitting that he knows someone that is using modded controllers and didnt report them which means that its someone close to jump.
Anywho I will leave the rest of the speculation to you.
xjumpman23 wrote:I've been playing this game since March ( IF YOU HAVENT PLAYED SINCE MARCH GTFO OF THIS THREAD) I've been here since before people knew sleek AV grenades were OP against infantry.
Yeah I've been watching old DUST gameplay footage for the past 20 minuets and am honestly wondering what the hell happened to this game. It's a shame that a game that had so much promise has gone this far south so fast.
Skirmish was much more structured and consisted of attack and defense. Skirmish 1.0 promoted team play and forced structured battles with actual killzones. (IE. people didn't have to run around the map looking for the next person to kill) Battles were action packed meaning they were never boring there was alway something to do.
Gun battles promoted skill. Yes there was a rock paper scissors concept, but that didn't stop a better player from besting somebody regardless of their dropsuit or it's meta level.
Sniping took skill it wasn't the BS we have today where little kids hide in the hills and average 1 kill per game by getting that lucky kill off of somebody.
Gameplay was fast and frantic. It was unlike any game released within the past 4 years. It took elements of all the great shooters and rolled into one game. This game was everything COD wasn't but then CCP opened the flood gates and let some noobs ruin what could have been one of the most skill based hardcore unforgiving FPS games created.
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Contrast that with what we have now COD:DUST514 edition
wide open maps with little kids hiding in the mountains as snipers camping headglitching into "cover" slower gameplay than killzone 2 (which had realistic recoil and movement in comparison to most games) COD style gunfights where whoever sees who first wins terrible spawn points ZERO RECOIL STANDARD AR's terrible burst rifle (people have been asking for 3 round burst since match) worthless breach AR's gimped beyond the point of use and CCP knows this but allows the noobs to run around with zero recoil standard AR's. Broken tactical rifles in which people are easily able to use mod controllers with ( my friend has tested it with his mod controller)
This game in it's current state isn't fun to play and down right terrible in comparison to what it used to be. CCP seriously needs to stop dumbing the game down to the point where people won't want to bother with this game, because the gameplay will be no different than the CODs BFs and MOH's.
Noobs that couldn't aim ruined this game.
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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.11.06 13:00:00 -
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Pranekt Tyrvoth wrote:I still insist that Dark cloud sounds like Arnold Schwarzennegger. Best PR choice just for that reason alone. Now if only we can get him to say "Get to da choppa!"
He wonGÇÖt do it man.
We try and get him to say "get to the dropship" and he nearly slipped up a few times but always catches himself in the last second.
All we get is "Enter the vehicle"
Then he mostly shouts at us for being noobs.
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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.11.06 13:08:00 -
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@ Sentient Archon
Tbh who even cares.
Simple fix is just limit its rate of fire to er somthing someone somewhere works out thats maybe ballanced.
I'm sure CCP will get round to it soon.
Its that or we go all buy a kronos or what ever its called.
Seen one in action few days ago and omg its funny.
Its a non issuse in my book because and lol this just shows how scruby autofire tac ar is.
Right get this. In a chat with a member from warriors one of em said they tried it and were like lol wtf so broken and never touched it again.
Now If warriors wont touch it them lol I think the rest of us are safe no ?
PS dont hate on me warriors im glad your in new eden and hope the game improves soon enuf so that you guys stay. |
Pranekt Tyrvoth
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
177
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Posted - 2012.11.06 13:10:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Pranekt Tyrvoth wrote:I still insist that Dark cloud sounds like Arnold Schwarzennegger. Best PR choice just for that reason alone. Now if only we can get him to say "Get to da choppa!" He wonGÇÖt do it man. We try and get him to say "get to the dropship" and he nearly slipped up a few times but always catches himself in the last second. All we get is "Enter the vehicle" Then he mostly shouts at us for being noobs.
Haha I can totally believe this. >___> He was a little nicer the few times I was on comms and grouped with him [when I was hanging out with Khemlar], but also didn't slip up with any Arnold statements then either. Btw good fights in the pubs earlier this morning. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.11.06 13:13:00 -
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Man i got butcher this morning
Was fun tho ( 4 you I expect) ROFL might do rather well in the Semi me thinks. Good luck man. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.11.06 13:24:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:@ Sentient Archon Tbh who even cares. Simple fix is just limit its rate of fire to er somthing someone somewhere works out thats maybe ballanced. I'm sure CCP will get round to it soon. Its that or we go all buy a kronos or what ever its called. Seen one in action few days ago and omg its funny. Its a non issuse in my book because and lol this just shows how scruby autofire tac ar is. Right get this. In a chat with a member from warriors one of em said they tried it and were like lol wtf so broken and never touched it again. Now If warriors wont touch it them lol I think the rest of us are safe no ? PS dont hate on me warriors im glad your in new eden and hope the game improves soon enuf so that you guys stay.
+1 for the good attitude lol |
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Captain-Awesome
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
349
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Posted - 2012.11.06 13:36:00 -
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I'm sorry, I've got to ignore the 5 pages of absolute gullible posts to say:
Dark Cloud.... do you even know what DoS means? I mean really?
because if you did you would know that Denial of Service is produced by making fast concurrent connection requests to the victim in question.
our victim in question would have to be the CCP servers..... I emphasise this because you (and everyone else who has posted here -_- ) should know that we all share the same battle server -_-
as a result, DoS'ing the server will not bring the game down for one, it would bring it down for everyone. Not only that but CCP get flagged when bogus connections from UNCERTIFIED NON SONY connections are made. seriously how stupid could this thread be? this isn't halo or the microsoft experience where we are the host. Bridging, router dos'ing.... it's all irrelevant here.
Seriously dumb thread. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.11.06 13:47:00 -
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Assuming that there is a legitimate conspiracy going on over here with the lag and down time and servers, then I am willing to wager that there's more on the line in just a mere t-shirt a small blue print and maybe a mouse pad. Reputation is another factor because winning the tournament means bragging rights, more recruits, more influence, stronger corp. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.11.06 13:49:00 -
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Captain-Awesome wrote:I'm sorry, I've got to ignore the 5 pages of absolute gullible posts to say:
Dark Cloud.... do you even know what DoS means? I mean really?
because if you did you would know that Denial of Service is produced by making fast concurrent connection requests to the victim in question.
our victim in question would have to be the CCP servers..... I emphasise this because you (and everyone else who has posted here -_- ) should know that we all share the same battle server -_-
as a result, DoS'ing the server will not bring the game down for one, it would bring it down for everyone. Not only that but CCP get flagged when bogus connections from UNCERTIFIED NON SONY connections are made. seriously how stupid could this thread be? this isn't halo or the microsoft experience where we are the host. Bridging, router dos'ing.... it's all irrelevant here.
Seriously dumb thread.
You'd like us to belive that wouldnt you |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.11.06 14:03:00 -
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Captain-Awesome wrote:I'm sorry, I've got to ignore the 5 pages of absolute gullible posts to say:
Dark Cloud.... do you even know what DoS means? I mean really?
because if you did you would know that Denial of Service is produced by making fast concurrent connection requests to the victim in question.
our victim in question would have to be the CCP servers..... I emphasise this because you (and everyone else who has posted here -_- ) should know that we all share the same battle server -_-
as a result, DoS'ing the server will not bring the game down for one, it would bring it down for everyone. Not only that but CCP get flagged when bogus connections from UNCERTIFIED NON SONY connections are made. seriously how stupid could this thread be? this isn't halo or the microsoft experience where we are the host. Bridging, router dos'ing.... it's all irrelevant here.
Seriously dumb thread.
Seriously dumb post. You can spam players with PSN messages to cause them to lag. Thats the only DoS I've heard of. Been victim to it before on MAG like I say. If you don't know what you are on about, shhh. |
Pranekt Tyrvoth
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
177
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Posted - 2012.11.06 14:15:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Man i got butcher this morning Was fun tho ( 4 you I expect) ROFL might do rather well in the Semi me thinks. Good luck man.
>_> Oh I have fun no matter who I'm lawnmowering with my HMG, but I always love good fights, the game is best when you've got good competition. Good luck to you guys too, we've got a hard fight ahead of us but hope to see you guys at the end.
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Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
651
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Posted - 2012.11.06 14:21:00 -
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Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg wrote:[
We've got nothing to prove at all, we're in it for ***** and giggles. We sure wouldn't go to the effort of trying to break up our corp and merge with another just to win a BETA tourney, but what do I know eh?.
I do find it pretty hilarious though how every time there's even mention of cheat or underhand things going on, Imperfects go mental.
Just throwing that out there.
You don't know much apparently I find it funny everytime one of us responds to a post, you call it overreacting, I call it participating in the community. But what do I know...
Btw... How's DJINN Punisher working out for SI, since he's only there for the BETA tournament? |
Captain-Awesome
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.06 14:29:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Captain-Awesome wrote:I'm sorry, I've got to ignore the 5 pages of absolute gullible posts to say:
Dark Cloud.... do you even know what DoS means? I mean really?
because if you did you would know that Denial of Service is produced by making fast concurrent connection requests to the victim in question.
our victim in question would have to be the CCP servers..... I emphasise this because you (and everyone else who has posted here -_- ) should know that we all share the same battle server -_-
as a result, DoS'ing the server will not bring the game down for one, it would bring it down for everyone. Not only that but CCP get flagged when bogus connections from UNCERTIFIED NON SONY connections are made. seriously how stupid could this thread be? this isn't halo or the microsoft experience where we are the host. Bridging, router dos'ing.... it's all irrelevant here.
Seriously dumb thread. Seriously dumb post. You can spam players with PSN messages to cause them to lag. Thats the only DoS I've heard of. Been victim to it before on MAG like I say. If you don't know what you are on about, shhh.
I call BS. Not only do playstation messages get sent through a secure connection, but there is no way a PC can send players messages directly to a console while circumventing PSN, which in itself has a delay to send messages to stop itself from being DoS'd. Send me a link, proof that this has happened.
not only that but common logic would dictate that this form of DoS would be applicable to ALL games, something Sony would take very seriously, which is easily preventable. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.11.06 14:34:00 -
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Captain-Awesome wrote: not only that but common logic would dictate that this form of DoS would be applicable to ALL games, something Sony would take very seriously, which is easily preventable.
This is the same Sony we are talking about that got its network hacked and was down for months? Geez my Sony's must be mixed up.
Oh and BTW Dust has its own servers. Dust is the only game that is not hosted on Sony servers and instead is hosted on CCP servers.
Thats the information I have but I could be wrong .
Edit:
PS: Any company that has a public facing website or server can be a target of a DOS attack. As a person that has worked with IT security and that has been audited by BS 7799 and SOX, I can tell you it is really easy to perpertrate a DOS on any public facing website/server. All ya need to do is figure out the IP address. |
fahrenheitM
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
212
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Posted - 2012.11.06 14:39:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Pranekt Tyrvoth wrote:~_~ I know everyone wants to win the tournament, but DoS over one likely negligible blueprint, a t-shirt and a mousepad are not really worth that for any sensible person.
If you know something is up, you should immediately inform CCP with whatever actual conclusive data [if any] you have to support it. Throwing it around in the forum won't really help anything other than to incite speculation, suspicion and drama, but telling CCP if there's a credible problem is just common sense.
Keep this tournament clean. this Obama DAT wrote:Two members of the Imperfects downplaying the post: GUILTY. Also lol at us bothering to use DoS attacks.
Is this the new term for Drop Ship spam? |
Captain-Awesome
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.06 14:45:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Captain-Awesome wrote: not only that but common logic would dictate that this form of DoS would be applicable to ALL games, something Sony would take very seriously, which is easily preventable.
This is the same Sony we are talking about that got its network hacked and was down for months? Geez my Sony's must be mixed up. Oh and BTW Dust has its own servers. Dust is the only game that is not hosted on Sony servers and instead is hosted on CCP servers. Thats the information I have but I could be wrong . Edit: PS: Any company that has a public facing website or server can be a target of a DOS attack. As a person that has worked with IT security and that has been audited by BS 7799 and SOX, I can tell you it is really easy to perpertrate a DOS on any public facing website/server. All ya need to do is figure out the IP address.
this is my point, attacking the mainframe would affect all parties not just one or 2. and yes they've been hacked, but it wasn't for taking advantage of a game :p
yes read my post above I'm the guy that used that as my arguement. I don't need reminding to what I said, you and I are both right.
yes I know how DoS works. I've done it and worked against it both professionaly and casually :p again I don't need reminding what I said. |
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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.11.06 14:49:00 -
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Cyn Bruin wrote:Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg wrote:[
We've got nothing to prove at all, we're in it for ***** and giggles. We sure wouldn't go to the effort of trying to break up our corp and merge with another just to win a BETA tourney, but what do I know eh?.
I do find it pretty hilarious though how every time there's even mention of cheat or underhand things going on, Imperfects go mental.
Just throwing that out there. Btw... How's DJINN Punisher working out for SI, since he's only there for the BETA tournament?
Working as intended.
He's not fighting for you.
You didn't want him anyway right ?
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Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.11.06 14:53:00 -
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Captain-Awesome wrote:
yes I know how DoS works. I've done it and worked against it both professionaly and casually :p again I don't need reminding what I said.
Well if you worked with DoS and DoS based security you will also know that DoS can be targeted at specific ports. Now assuming each client has its own specific port, it would be easier to identify whcih port contains which information. You can target individual people using that.
There are other ways to reduce a persons network time. All you need to is use the concept of mass mailing the same person. That causes a server overload which slows down the ping time between a client and server and hence the term "lag". Remember Nimda or Code Red? |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.11.06 15:00:00 -
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and sadly ccp might have released some info that might help those versed in khaos magic be all naughty.
All over my head I'm afraid tho.
Its been posted up in bugs froum I think but its got zero replys in 24 hours.
Expect no one knows what they guys on about tbh.
Will get the Op to go post some more stuff in it and then we can keep all the nerdy talk out of this thread and continue our..wtf are we even talking about?
EDIT: In b4 Sha Kharn has a small willy or some other nonsense. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.11.06 15:05:00 -
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@ Captain-Awesome.
You post like your super angry all the time bro. lifes not so bad why no happy face ?
Here take one of mine |
Captain-Awesome
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.06 15:15:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Captain-Awesome wrote:
yes I know how DoS works. I've done it and worked against it both professionaly and casually :p again I don't need reminding what I said.
Well if you worked with DoS and DoS based security you will also know that DoS can be targeted at specific ports. Now assuming each client has its own specific port, it would be easier to identify whcih port contains which information. You can target individual people using that. There are other ways to reduce a persons network time. All you need to is use the concept of mass mailing the same person. That causes a server overload which slows down the ping time between a client and server and hence the term "lag". Remember Nimda or Code Red?
a lot of assumption for a beta tournament :p even if clients have their own port, you need to send your requests through CCP's servers to the client, unless you know how to obtain their IP from sony so you can bypass their servers all of which sounds very unlikely.
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Captain-Awesome
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.06 15:17:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:@ Captain-Awesome. You post like your super angry all the time bro. lifes not so bad why no happy face ? Here take one of mine
actually I'm a level headed jolly welsh man, I say it more with a smile than with a frown, it's just how the users perceive it. lack of smileys perhaps? |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.11.06 15:17:00 -
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Nerd talk but why would you need to get thier IP from sony ? Cant you get peeps IP's other ways ? |
GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.06 15:22:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:CCP i would advise to monitor all incoming and outcoming data from all players. Because you can actually win something. You never know if some 1 could pull off a DOS attack. Not calling names or corps but there are rumors out there. Simply saying making people to lag out/disconnect from tourny matches.
You're saying that as vs us (WTF) for the first 1/4 final game, we had 6 disconnect at launch and you were 15 .... |
Captain-Awesome
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Posted - 2012.11.06 15:27:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Nerd talk but why would you need to get thier IP from sony ? Cant you get peeps IP's other ways ?
only by interacting with them, and in this case the only method of interaction is via sony and CCP, unless you add them to your friends list which only bypasses CCP servers, you still need to get past sony servers and hope that they accept the friend request.... and I suspect if you want the ip you need to setup some form of streaming like a voice / video chat.... |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.06 16:50:00 -
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In to keep the thead going.
Sha your boy dark cloud just looks stupid to us. No one is mad we are just laughing at you. Everyone knows this is just a failed troll before we even read the thread.
also Tony spaming PSN messages/invites leaves evidence and is completely different then the DoS attack dark cloud was inferring.
Also our trolls are better than yours, kinda like our dust game too. |
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