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MODEST RED Carbon 7 17	Posted - 2012.11.01 02:51:00 - [1] - Quote i have better luck mowing down ppl than actually shooting ppl......makes me feel so good inside! thunk +50 kill
Jariel Manton SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 210	Posted - 2012.11.01 02:58:00 - [2] - Quote I havent had as much luck getting away from them lately
Chosokabe Ite Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 71	Posted - 2012.11.01 03:01:00 - [3] - Quote I have no problem with it...as long as I'm not hit at a spawn point.
ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS 1NC 391	Posted - 2012.11.01 03:14:00 - [4] - Quote Says it all really, anythings better on this than a gun.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.11.01 03:32:00 - [5] - Quote Not really. If the game mechanics allow it and CCP is not stopping you for it, then it's ok. It's been like this since the VERY FIRST BUILD which was many moons ago and everyone and their grandma was running mercs over with LAVs. CCP didn't say sh**.
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.11.01 03:41:00 - [6] - Quote Just makes you a scrub if thats all you do. TBH its kinda funny evey now and again tho.
Fivetimes Infinity Immobile Infantry 1086	Posted - 2012.11.01 03:51:00 - [7] - Quote It's a low-skill method of getting kills. Disproportionately effective for the amount it demands of you in either ISK or skill. Not cheating, but it shouldn't be as effective as it is.
Pranekt Tyrvoth Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 177	Posted - 2012.11.01 04:10:00 - [8] - Quote Yes, it is cheating for you, but not for anyone else. Thanks for your question.
Icy Tiger Universal Allies Inc. 1026	Posted - 2012.11.01 04:11:00 - [9] - Quote Cry more guys. AV nade= 1 hit kill. Keep up the good work.
Talruum Tezztarozza Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 73	Posted - 2012.11.01 04:26:00 - [10] - Quote If you are lucky, you can kill 3 scrubs with one nade

Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 437	Posted - 2012.11.01 04:44:00 - [11] - Quote Not just running people over, but also double-tapping triangle and shooting them in the face if you miss them. Much fun.
Adeptus Ezekiel Bragian Order Amarr Empire 30	Posted - 2012.11.01 06:10:00 - [12] - Quote Talruum Tezztarozza wrote: If you are lucky, you can kill 3 scrubs with one nade Nothing is more fun than this
Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 192	Posted - 2012.11.01 06:36:00 - [13] - Quote Kills with the free LAV....lol. It's far from cheating but you'd be better off learning to shoot than being a scrub tbh ;)
ReGnUm DEl Doomheim 622	Posted - 2012.11.01 06:37:00 - [14] - Quote Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg wrote: Kills with the free LAV....lol. It's far from cheating but you'd be better off learning to shoot than being a scrub tbh ;) Says the guy who can only use a tank ;)
Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 192	Posted - 2012.11.01 06:40:00 - [15] - Quote Proves what you actually know Reg. Just because I specialise in tanks and not AR's with damage mods. Get tank game scrub!
Grimmiers ZionTCD Legacy Rising 158	Posted - 2012.11.01 07:08:00 - [16] - Quote Not really. It's bullcrap when you spawn right under an ally LAV and die before you get a chance to move...
Mister Hunt Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 230	Posted - 2012.11.01 08:54:00 - [17] - Quote Grimmiers wrote: Not really. It's bullcrap when you spawn right under an ally LAV and die before you get a chance to move... I was actually spawned underneath an empty LAV once....that pretty much ruined my day
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.11.01 09:12:00 - [18] - Quote You have to decide who the bigger scrub is. The guy playing Carmageddon514, or the fools who don't have AV nades/Swarmer. A lack of AV is punishable by repeated crushing.
Flyingconejo KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 82	Posted - 2012.11.01 10:09:00 - [19] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: You have to decide who the bigger scrub is. The guy playing Carmageddon514, or the fools who don't have AV nades/Swarmer. A lack of AV is punishable by repeated crushing.
arimal lavaren L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 186	Posted - 2012.11.01 12:22:00 - [20] - Quote If there dumb enough to be caught in the open they deserve to be roadkill, if a merc is that far out to field there just sniper bait anyway.

Cat Powers III ZionTCD Legacy Rising 17	Posted - 2012.11.01 12:22:00 - [21] - Quote It's funny when I do it but totally cheating when someone gets me... But seriously the only thing I really dislike about it is that the LAVs seem to be almost silent and have no profile on radar (the built in one on the suit). The only chance to spot one is if a teammate happens to see it in his LOS and even then it disappears quickly due to its speed to get out of said LOS. Also when it is clear I can't jump out of the way (in Heavy suit) or too far away from cover and I happen to have AVs it really sucks that playing chicken with tossing them straight at the rammer always almost kills me as the grenades bounce back in my face. It was really funny the time it launched me off the entire terrain and into a low deteriorating orbit. I look right, I look left. I go across and get a bumper up my rear that was attached to a silent engine made of stealth metal. Makes me sad.
Fivetimes Infinity Immobile Infantry 1086	Posted - 2012.11.01 12:37:00 - [22] - Quote arimal lavaren wrote: If there dumb enough to be caught in the open they deserve to be roadkill, if a merc is that far out to field there just sniper bait anyway. Yeah man totally, unless you're hiding amongst buildings/rocks at spawn you deserve to be killed, anyone dumb enough to move between objectives on foot or otherwise be on any piece of land a LAV can traverse deserves to be killed by a LAV. The problem isn't free LAVs instantly killing anyone they hit, the problem is these dumb nublar scrublords and their inability to play the game properly, right?
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2012.11.02 01:47:00 - [23] - Quote Funny thing- For some reason, I was the first person in an ambush that ended up only having 2 players on each team (first 2v2 match ever on dust?) I spawned an LAV, and my teammate got in the gunner seat. I was the only person to get any kills (got 3)- 2 of them were from running people over while my gunner repeatedly missed, while the last was (after my LAV got blown up, after we bailed since my gunner couldn't hit the guy with the swarm) killing a guy trying to sneak up on my oblivious ex-gunner.
Tyrus Four 128	Posted - 2012.11.02 02:16:00 - [24] - Quote Is it cheating if I stare down your LAV and shoot it in the face with my Forge Gun as it charges towards me? :) cause I've done that before, not to you specifically OP, but to other folks.
Necrodermis GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 460	Posted - 2012.11.02 02:19:00 - [25] - Quote i love blowing up LAVs, but if the vehicle is too close the missiles will be dumb as hell and do something stupid. as for vehicles running down trying to get to another point one lock they all die. assuming the missiles don't do anything stupid.
Gunner Needed The Southern Legion 111	Posted - 2012.11.04 15:33:00 - [26] - Quote if there in the way when im on my way to an objective thn there paste
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.11.04 16:17:00 - [27] - Quote I don't mind LAVs running people over. I DO mind when I see them miss and the person still dies. Especially when the person was me. As in literally watch the LAV shoot past about 2m from me, then freeze in place, screen fogs over with a red tint, and a message pops up (crushed). NO. No, I wasn't crushed.
Mobius Kaethis Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 306	Posted - 2012.11.04 16:23:00 - [28] - Quote Its not cheating but it really should kitten up the LAV too. Force = mass times acceleration after all.
ugg reset ZionTCD Legacy Rising 234	Posted - 2012.11.04 16:25:00 - [29] - Quote Mister Hunt wrote: Grimmiers wrote: Not really. It's bullcrap when you spawn right under an ally LAV and die before you get a chance to move... I was actually spawned underneath an empty LAV once....that pretty much ruined my day Dafuc? how dose a car change the fact that you where killed before you could move. anything could do that. Mobius wrote: Its not cheating but it really should kitten up the LAV too. Force = mass times acceleration after all. They do. they clip into our cars so we can't move.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.11.04 16:35:00 - [30] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Its not cheating but it really should kitten up the LAV too. Force = mass times acceleration after all. The damage to the Dropsuit is based on the mass of the LAV. Large mass + high speed = splat. Damage to LAV should be calculated similarly, based on mass of Dropsuit you're hitting with it. Hit a Scout, and they're barely more than a speedbump. Hit a Heavy, and you'll be hurting too. And the faster you move, the more damage the LAV takes as well as the more it deals.

Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2012.11.04 16:40:00 - [31] - Quote It's not cheating, but it's bad gameplay since it is riskless for you.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.11.04 16:46:00 - [32] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: It's not cheating, but it's bad gameplay since it is riskless for you. Unless the other guy has a Forge Gun, an AV Grenade, a Swarm Launcher and a few seconds to get the lock, nearby friends with AV weaponry, or good enough aim to snipe you out of the driver's seat...
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2012.11.04 16:47:00 - [33] - Quote If you have a bad gunner, crushing people is the only way to get a kill, but I would definitely not recommend it, as it usually gets you an AV to the face. If you have a decent gunner, you're much better off keeping your distance and using your speed for defense, not offense.
Obama DAT Doomheim 389	Posted - 2012.11.04 16:47:00 - [34] - Quote I'm loving all the LAV's on the maps. My militia swarm launcher generates tons of ISK for me thorugh their destruction.
ugg reset ZionTCD Legacy Rising 234	Posted - 2012.11.04 16:52:00 - [35] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: Its not cheating but it really should kitten up the LAV too. Force = mass times acceleration after all. The damage to the Dropsuit is based on the mass of the LAV. Large mass + high speed = splat. Damage to LAV should be calculated similarly, based on mass of Dropsuit you're hitting with it. Hit a Scout, and they're barely more than a speedbump. Hit a Heavy, and you'll be hurting too. And the faster you move, the more damage the LAV takes as well as the more it deals. I disagree, hit a nail with a hammer and tell me how much dammage the hammer took. The LAV's are ment to take a beating. If anyone should take damage in a collision it's the drivers and passengers in the LAV,
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2012.11.04 16:53:00 - [36] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: It's not cheating, but it's bad gameplay since it is riskless for you. Unless the other guy has a Forge Gun, an AV Grenade, a Swarm Launcher and a few seconds to get the lock, nearby friends with AV weaponry, or good enough aim to snipe you out of the driver's seat... Yeah, so much risk... a total militia fit can soak enough damage to run over a swarmer or even a forge gun. And it is free, no skill 1HK vs having 1 of 3 items (you can't shoot the driver from level, in front) and enough time to fire twice. I stand by my riskless statement.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2012.11.04 16:55:00 - [37] - Quote ugg reset wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: Its not cheating but it really should kitten up the LAV too. Force = mass times acceleration after all. The damage to the Dropsuit is based on the mass of the LAV. Large mass + high speed = splat. Damage to LAV should be calculated similarly, based on mass of Dropsuit you're hitting with it. Hit a Scout, and they're barely more than a speedbump. Hit a Heavy, and you'll be hurting too. And the faster you move, the more damage the LAV takes as well as the more it deals. I disagree, hit a nail with a hammer and tell me how much dammage the hammer took. The LAV's are ment to take a beating. If anyone should take damage in a collision it's the drivers and passengers in the LAV, The scout suit probably weighs several hundred pounds. The heavy is likely over a ton. It's not a hammer/nail situation.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.11.04 17:16:00 - [38] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: It's not cheating, but it's bad gameplay since it is riskless for you. Unless the other guy has a Forge Gun, an AV Grenade, a Swarm Launcher and a few seconds to get the lock, nearby friends with AV weaponry, or good enough aim to snipe you out of the driver's seat... Yeah, so much risk... a total militia fit can soak enough damage to run over a swarmer or even a forge gun. And it is free, no skill 1HK vs having 1 of 3 items (you can't shoot the driver from level, in front) and enough time to fire twice. I stand by my riskless statement. I've seen plenty of Militia LAVs die to a single Swarm just in my playtime today. And you can get a Swarm Launcher on a Starter fitting with 0 cost involved except the SPs to make it effective. You CAN'T get your LAV capable of surviving that Swarm without paying for it. And I haven't seen a Militia fit that can survive the Forge Gun or AV Grenade. I mentioned shooting out the driver because I saw my girlfriend do so in an older build. Haven't checked to see if it still works now. Guess not.
HECATONCHIRES GYGES Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 151	Posted - 2012.11.04 17:17:00 - [39] - Quote Once killed the same guy 8 times in one match because that was all he would do is call down LAV's and try to run people over.....sucks for him good for me.As far as cheating no I dont think its cheating....Ill get ran over one time in a match when Im playing Assault shake my head then its"OK buddy.... got a little sumthin for ya" . I spawn forge, and thats what I do that match....blow up LAV scrubs. Oh PS anyone reading this thread that does this all the time please leave your name so I dont have to waste any time.I can start the match out FORGE ING you into oblivion.
ugg reset ZionTCD Legacy Rising 234	Posted - 2012.11.04 17:52:00 - [40] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: ugg reset wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: Its not cheating but it really should kitten up the LAV too. Force = mass times acceleration after all. The damage to the Dropsuit is based on the mass of the LAV. Large mass + high speed = splat. Damage to LAV should be calculated similarly, based on mass of Dropsuit you're hitting with it. Hit a Scout, and they're barely more than a speedbump. Hit a Heavy, and you'll be hurting too. And the faster you move, the more damage the LAV takes as well as the more it deals. I disagree, hit a nail with a hammer and tell me how much dammage the hammer took. The LAV's are ment to take a beating. If anyone should take damage in a collision it's the drivers and passengers in the LAV, The scout suit probably weighs several hundred pounds. The heavy is likely over a ton. It's not a hammer/nail situation. The "Damage" you speek of would refer to how the car would crumple if It was ment to protect the driver and passengers from trama. Since this isn't the case (As we are immortal clone soldiers) is it to hard to believe that they wouldn't build a platform capable of hitting a 1ton+ Drop suit? I can only imagine the the shields should take some dammage, since there are kinetic weapons in EVEGäó and im not all that sure how they even work. But in a world where ship hauls are built to take amazing amounts of punishment from space flights as well as combat I find it hard to believe that there isn't material strong enough to take a hit from something relatively small as a heavy DS. In summery if there is to be dammage to the car it should be negligible (3-5% shields, 5-7% armor of the dammage dealt).



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