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Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.04 16:40:00 -
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It's not cheating, but it's bad gameplay since it is riskless for you. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.11.04 16:46:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:It's not cheating, but it's bad gameplay since it is riskless for you.
Unless the other guy has a Forge Gun, an AV Grenade, a Swarm Launcher and a few seconds to get the lock, nearby friends with AV weaponry, or good enough aim to snipe you out of the driver's seat... |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2012.11.04 16:47:00 -
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If you have a bad gunner, crushing people is the only way to get a kill, but I would definitely not recommend it, as it usually gets you an AV to the face.
If you have a decent gunner, you're much better off keeping your distance and using your speed for defense, not offense. |
Obama DAT
Doomheim
389
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Posted - 2012.11.04 16:47:00 -
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I'm loving all the LAV's on the maps. My militia swarm launcher generates tons of ISK for me thorugh their destruction. |
ugg reset
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
234
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Posted - 2012.11.04 16:52:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:Its not cheating but it really should kitten up the LAV too. Force = mass times acceleration after all. The damage to the Dropsuit is based on the mass of the LAV. Large mass + high speed = splat. Damage to LAV should be calculated similarly, based on mass of Dropsuit you're hitting with it. Hit a Scout, and they're barely more than a speedbump. Hit a Heavy, and you'll be hurting too. And the faster you move, the more damage the LAV takes as well as the more it deals.
I disagree, hit a nail with a hammer and tell me how much dammage the hammer took. The LAV's are ment to take a beating. If anyone should take damage in a collision it's the drivers and passengers in the LAV, |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects
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Posted - 2012.11.04 16:53:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:It's not cheating, but it's bad gameplay since it is riskless for you. Unless the other guy has a Forge Gun, an AV Grenade, a Swarm Launcher and a few seconds to get the lock, nearby friends with AV weaponry, or good enough aim to snipe you out of the driver's seat...
Yeah, so much risk... a total militia fit can soak enough damage to run over a swarmer or even a forge gun. And it is free, no skill 1HK vs having 1 of 3 items (you can't shoot the driver from level, in front) and enough time to fire twice. I stand by my riskless statement. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects
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Posted - 2012.11.04 16:55:00 -
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ugg reset wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:Its not cheating but it really should kitten up the LAV too. Force = mass times acceleration after all. The damage to the Dropsuit is based on the mass of the LAV. Large mass + high speed = splat. Damage to LAV should be calculated similarly, based on mass of Dropsuit you're hitting with it. Hit a Scout, and they're barely more than a speedbump. Hit a Heavy, and you'll be hurting too. And the faster you move, the more damage the LAV takes as well as the more it deals. I disagree, hit a nail with a hammer and tell me how much dammage the hammer took. The LAV's are ment to take a beating. If anyone should take damage in a collision it's the drivers and passengers in the LAV,
The scout suit probably weighs several hundred pounds. The heavy is likely over a ton. It's not a hammer/nail situation. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2012.11.04 17:16:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:It's not cheating, but it's bad gameplay since it is riskless for you. Unless the other guy has a Forge Gun, an AV Grenade, a Swarm Launcher and a few seconds to get the lock, nearby friends with AV weaponry, or good enough aim to snipe you out of the driver's seat... Yeah, so much risk... a total militia fit can soak enough damage to run over a swarmer or even a forge gun. And it is free, no skill 1HK vs having 1 of 3 items (you can't shoot the driver from level, in front) and enough time to fire twice. I stand by my riskless statement.
I've seen plenty of Militia LAVs die to a single Swarm just in my playtime today. And you can get a Swarm Launcher on a Starter fitting with 0 cost involved except the SPs to make it effective. You CAN'T get your LAV capable of surviving that Swarm without paying for it.
And I haven't seen a Militia fit that can survive the Forge Gun or AV Grenade.
I mentioned shooting out the driver because I saw my girlfriend do so in an older build. Haven't checked to see if it still works now. Guess not. |
HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.11.04 17:17:00 -
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Once killed the same guy 8 times in one match because that was all he would do is call down LAV's and try to run people over.....sucks for him good for me.As far as cheating no I dont think its cheating....Ill get ran over one time in a match when Im playing Assault shake my head then its"OK buddy.... got a little sumthin for ya" . I spawn forge, and thats what I do that match....blow up LAV scrubs.
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PS anyone reading this thread that does this all the time please leave your name so I dont have to waste any time.I can start the match out FORGE ING you into oblivion. |
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ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
234
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Posted - 2012.11.04 17:52:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:ugg reset wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:Its not cheating but it really should kitten up the LAV too. Force = mass times acceleration after all. The damage to the Dropsuit is based on the mass of the LAV. Large mass + high speed = splat. Damage to LAV should be calculated similarly, based on mass of Dropsuit you're hitting with it. Hit a Scout, and they're barely more than a speedbump. Hit a Heavy, and you'll be hurting too. And the faster you move, the more damage the LAV takes as well as the more it deals. I disagree, hit a nail with a hammer and tell me how much dammage the hammer took. The LAV's are ment to take a beating. If anyone should take damage in a collision it's the drivers and passengers in the LAV, The scout suit probably weighs several hundred pounds. The heavy is likely over a ton. It's not a hammer/nail situation.
The "Damage" you speek of would refer to how the car would crumple if It was ment to protect the driver and passengers from trama. Since this isn't the case (As we are immortal clone soldiers) is it to hard to believe that they wouldn't build a platform capable of hitting a 1ton+ Drop suit?
I can only imagine the the shields should take some dammage, since there are kinetic weapons in EVEGäó and im not all that sure how they even work. But in a world where ship hauls are built to take amazing amounts of punishment from space flights as well as combat I find it hard to believe that there isn't material strong enough to take a hit from something relatively small as a heavy DS.
In summery if there is to be dammage to the car it should be negligible (3-5% shields, 5-7% armor of the dammage dealt).
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