DUST Search - WTF vs SI

Baracka Flocka Flame wrote:

Laurent Cazaderon wrote:

Baracka Flocka Flame wrote:

Ya not to sound like a douche or get involved here, but you should of expected people to use dropships, of course people will flock to the OP thing thats how all video games work. Regardless this tournament was rushed and is already a joke so i wouldn't feel to bad on urselfs WTF. Hopefully CCP learns from this, all we can ask.

We expected it. And had things planned but they were pretty much inefficient basically. At some point, almost every ones effort was focused on it. And even then it still had the upper hand. Not mentionning that the rest of SI was having a fun time while we were at it.

We couldnt just say "hey let's have a myron ourselves like that" in less than 2 weeks lol. I wont say everything we had as tourney still rolls but believe me when i say we had A LOT of things planned ^^

Ya i hear you man. We had the pleasure of playing STB the day DUST got all the money from Eve so we exp'd the never ending vehicle spam too, you take one out theres another to replace it and it forces you to use half ur team on AV. Like i said, all we can hope for is CCP to learn from this maybe, just maybe get some better balanced tournaments in the future. Cause yes for now, Vehicle spam will win you a corp battle no problem(not to mention whichever corps have stock piled assets up from the Eve->Dust money).

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Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.10.27 18:15:00 - [31] - Quote Jack Boost wrote: Laurent Cazaderon wrote: I may have had 4 real infantry fights overall. I watched scores and in the end. Half of the SI team with the main vehicles and it would have ended the same way. You could have played without trying to get any objectives and you would have clone depleted us anyway. Conclusion : An interesting fight to show real flaws in the game at this stage. Vehicle turrets are way too powerfull imo. Also, but i think it was for every player. What a massive amount of Lag Still solo foot squad jack boost 10:1 ... and second place. So dont tell only vehicles. Anyway good fight. yeah saw you. but you got me 3 times i had 10% Hp left and was a heavy ^^
Miss Practice 30	Posted - 2012.10.27 18:16:00 - [32] - Quote Grezkev wrote: Very much interested in the Rosters Yes please.
Baracka Flocka Flame SyNergy Gaming 334	Posted - 2012.10.27 18:18:00 - [33] - Quote Ya not to sound like a douche or get involved here, but you should of expected people to use dropships, of course people will flock to the OP thing thats how all video games work. Regardless this tournament was rushed and is already a joke so i wouldn't feel to bad on urselfs WTF. Hopefully CCP learns from this, all we can ask.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.10.27 18:20:00 - [34] - Quote Miss Practice wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: Sha Kharn Clone wrote: When SI looses a corp battle or torny battle you wont see any QQ from us. To be fair, you're the ones abusing Dropships, not other people. Of course you won't QQ. Abusing? They are working as inteded. not sure about that. Are dropship intended to be almost untouchable death machines like they are at the moment ? I hope not tbh. What this match tells me is that dust is going to end up being a vehicle fest. And it's definitely not what i expect from it. Also, we played a map favoring vehicles as it s pretty wide open. We could have done better no doubt about it but it s way harder when you need almost half your team to counter one vehicle with two guys in it.
pew pew youredead What The French 98	Posted - 2012.10.27 18:21:00 - [35] - Quote Jack Boost wrote: Laurent Cazaderon wrote: I may have had 4 real infantry fights overall. I watched scores and in the end. Half of the SI team with the main vehicles and it would have ended the same way. You could have played without trying to get any objectives and you would have clone depleted us anyway. Conclusion : An interesting fight to show real flaws in the game at this stage. Vehicle turrets are way too powerfull imo. Also, but i think it was for every player. What a massive amount of Lag Still solo foot squad jack boost 10:1 ... and second place. So dont tell only vehicles. Anyway good fight. jack boost got lag help. nothing to be proud of. we still kill you in normal games
Darky Kuzarian Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 143	Posted - 2012.10.27 18:23:00 - [36] - Quote guys stop posting and go prepare for our next battle
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.10.27 18:23:00 - [37] - Quote Baracka Flocka Flame wrote: Ya not to sound like a douche or get involved here, but you should of expected people to use dropships, of course people will flock to the OP thing thats how all video games work. Regardless this tournament was rushed and is already a joke so i wouldn't feel to bad on urselfs WTF. Hopefully CCP learns from this, all we can ask. We expected it. And had things planned but they were pretty much inefficient basically. At some point, almost every ones effort was focused on it. And even then it still had the upper hand. Not mentionning that the rest of SI was having a fun time while we were at it. We couldnt just say "hey let's have a myron ourselves like that" in less than 2 weeks lol. I wont say everything we had as tourney still rolls but believe me when i say we had A LOT of things planned ^^
Vickers S Grunt Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 67	Posted - 2012.10.27 18:24:00 - [38] - Quote can not log in
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.10.27 18:24:00 - [39] - Quote pew pew youredead wrote: Jack Boost wrote: Laurent Cazaderon wrote: I may have had 4 real infantry fights overall. I watched scores and in the end. Half of the SI team with the main vehicles and it would have ended the same way. You could have played without trying to get any objectives and you would have clone depleted us anyway. Conclusion : An interesting fight to show real flaws in the game at this stage. Vehicle turrets are way too powerfull imo. Also, but i think it was for every player. What a massive amount of Lag Still solo foot squad jack boost 10:1 ... and second place. So dont tell only vehicles. Anyway good fight. jack boost got lag help. nothing to be proud of. we still kill you in normal games irrelevant dude. That's not what happend.
GLOO GLOO Algintal Core Gallente Federation 217	Posted - 2012.10.27 18:24:00 - [40] - Quote Baracka Flocka Flame wrote: Ya not to sound like a douche or get involved here, but you should of expected people to use dropships, of course people will flock to the OP thing thats how all video games work. Regardless this tournament was rushed and is already a joke so i wouldn't feel to bad on urselfs WTF. Hopefully CCP learns from this, all we can ask. We were prepare : Forge, Swarm, an a small tank, but with fire power. Some of us skilled to be AV, but 1 - Swarm are useless, even if you skill in it, and 2 - with the lag (that we all have), Forge and Tank can't aim properly a Flying Dropship All Around with OP turrets with a 5M ISK skill passive book... Fix swarms and game lag mechanics, and maybe it will more difficult to be so OP for dropships.

pew pew youredead What The French 98	Posted - 2012.10.27 18:25:00 - [41] - Quote GLOO GLOO wrote: Everyone can use a dropship, but at the moment, no one of us like this gaming style. Well, GJ to SI, but it wasn't a GG... i like dropships. i abused them and used to splat ppl wit them. i wanted to try something else this build
Baracka Flocka Flame SyNergy Gaming 334	Posted - 2012.10.27 18:28:00 - [42] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Baracka Flocka Flame wrote: Ya not to sound like a douche or get involved here, but you should of expected people to use dropships, of course people will flock to the OP thing thats how all video games work. Regardless this tournament was rushed and is already a joke so i wouldn't feel to bad on urselfs WTF. Hopefully CCP learns from this, all we can ask. We expected it. And had things planned but they were pretty much inefficient basically. At some point, almost every ones effort was focused on it. And even then it still had the upper hand. Not mentionning that the rest of SI was having a fun time while we were at it. We couldnt just say "hey let's have a myron ourselves like that" in less than 2 weeks lol. I wont say everything we had as tourney still rolls but believe me when i say we had A LOT of things planned ^^ Ya i hear you man. We had the pleasure of playing STB the day DUST got all the money from Eve so we exp'd the never ending vehicle spam too, you take one out theres another to replace it and it forces you to use half ur team on AV. Like i said, all we can hope for is CCP to learn from this maybe, just maybe get some better balanced tournaments in the future. Cause yes for now, Vehicle spam will win you a corp battle no problem(not to mention whichever corps have stock piled assets up from the Eve->Dust money).
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1060	Posted - 2012.10.27 18:29:00 - [43] - Quote Seriously good players will allways stick to that what works the best and because this game has alot of vehicles which are very strong they will use that. if you dont stay on a competetive lvl of gear you will get defeated. This here is not COD and your ability to wield a assault rifle is not the game changer in such a large scaled corp match. A corp without dedicated vehicle specialists is at a huge disadvantage.You need to combine all options that you have. We basically combined air support, tanks who can hold positions and ground troops who engage enemy AV troops. And if you watch MLG players they allways stick with that whats the best to use cause they know its not smart to set themself at a disadvantage.
MachIrish 7	Posted - 2012.10.27 18:32:00 - [44] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Miss Practice wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: Sha Kharn Clone wrote: When SI looses a corp battle or torny battle you wont see any QQ from us. To be fair, you're the ones abusing Dropships, not other people. Of course you won't QQ. Abusing? They are working as inteded. not sure about that. Are dropship intended to be almost untouchable death machines like they are at the moment ? I hope not tbh. What this match tells me is that dust is going to end up being a vehicle fest. And it's definitely not what i expect from it. Also, we played a map favoring vehicles as it s pretty wide open. We could have done better no doubt about it but it s way harder when you need almost half your team to counter one vehicle with two guys in it. So you are telling me, you did not expect this to be a vehicile fest, when it was made by the makers of EVE, which is, a spaceship fest. Please explain.
GLOO GLOO Algintal Core Gallente Federation 217	Posted - 2012.10.27 18:33:00 - [45] - Quote Baracka Flocka Flame wrote: Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Baracka Flocka Flame wrote: Ya not to sound like a douche or get involved here, but you should of expected people to use dropships, of course people will flock to the OP thing thats how all video games work. Regardless this tournament was rushed and is already a joke so i wouldn't feel to bad on urselfs WTF. Hopefully CCP learns from this, all we can ask. We expected it. And had things planned but they were pretty much inefficient basically. At some point, almost every ones effort was focused on it. And even then it still had the upper hand. Not mentionning that the rest of SI was having a fun time while we were at it. We couldnt just say "hey let's have a myron ourselves like that" in less than 2 weeks lol. I wont say everything we had as tourney still rolls but believe me when i say we had A LOT of things planned ^^ Ya i hear you man. We had the pleasure of playing STB the day DUST got all the money from Eve so we exp'd the never ending vehicle spam too, you take one out theres another to replace it and it forces you to use half ur team on AV. Like i said, all we can hope for is CCP to learn from this maybe, just maybe get some better balanced tournaments in the future. Cause yes for now, Vehicle spam will win you a corp battle no problem(not to mention whichever corps have stock piled assets up from the Eve->Dust money). The problem is that we could see thoos ISK transfert at the first day release.... Well, I wasn't expecting a World of Tank game. But maybe with restrictions, and a real MMO on the battlefield, we could have a deal
Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 192	Posted - 2012.10.27 18:33:00 - [46] - Quote Your AV game was really good guys and had me hiding a lot. Also you haven't mentioned that you took out 2 tanks? and 3 dropships. I saw you insta pop Dark multiple times when you hit him, it's not our fault we had you pinned whilst you were trying to get him. I went 10:1 in a tank and came middle table. Below a tonne of really good infantry guys I might add. So it wasn't all vehicles like you make out.
MachIrish 7	Posted - 2012.10.27 18:36:00 - [47] - Quote Vickers S Grunt wrote: can not log in My favorite post on this thread.
olssam 62 What The French 37	Posted - 2012.10.27 18:38:00 - [48] - Quote Myron 514 The problem is that the CCP reset isk but not vehicles and items obtained with this isk (eve) and it was clearly seen that the seraphim were supported above and victory is only played on it. ... After it is clear that the turrets are extremely powerful, but the was one shot a heavy that is ca cheat and I hope that the ccp clearly seen;) Damage without all this could have been a game more interresting sorry for myrons dark cloud
Regis Mk V Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 109	Posted - 2012.10.27 18:41:00 - [49] - Quote I've said it since the beginning the drop ships should not have rocket launchers. Instead they should be using a rapid fire weapon a more powerful HMG perhaps? Same with the tanks.
crazy space ZionTCD Legacy Rising 879	Posted - 2012.10.27 18:43:00 - [50] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Sha Kharn Clone wrote: Good game. Clone depletion. SI had 126 clones left. Hats off 2 wtf was a very good fight. Very good fight ? Meode in its dropship turret did 25% of the work. Swarm launchers and FG woulnt hit it at all. Also, turrets pretty much OSing people ? And two tanks did half the rest of the job. I may have had 4 real infantry fights overall. I watched scores and in the end. Half of the SI team with the main vehicles and it would have ended the same way. You could have played without trying to get any objectives and you would have clone depleted us anyway. Conclusion : An interesting fight to show real flaws in the game at this stage. Vehicle turrets are way too powerfull imo. Also, but i think it was for every player. What a massive amount of Lag well duh, CCP shouldn't of been balancing this beta based on non Team vs.Team matches in the 1st place.

Osiris Greywolf Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 80	Posted - 2012.10.27 18:46:00 - [51] - Quote MachIrish wrote: Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Miss Practice wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: Sha Kharn Clone wrote: When SI looses a corp battle or torny battle you wont see any QQ from us. To be fair, you're the ones abusing Dropships, not other people. Of course you won't QQ. Abusing? They are working as inteded. not sure about that. Are dropship intended to be almost untouchable death machines like they are at the moment ? I hope not tbh. What this match tells me is that dust is going to end up being a vehicle fest. And it's definitely not what i expect from it. Also, we played a map favoring vehicles as it s pretty wide open. We could have done better no doubt about it but it s way harder when you need almost half your team to counter one vehicle with two guys in it. So you are telling me, you did not expect this to be a vehicile fest, when it was made by the makers of EVE, which is, a spaceship fest. Please explain. Something tells me a 4x SPACE game would be boring with just astronauts, but I guess hats just me.
Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 192	Posted - 2012.10.27 18:48:00 - [52] - Quote olssam 62 wrote: The problem is that the CCP reset isk but not vehicles and items obtained with this isk (eve) and it was clearly seen that the seraphim were supported above and victory is only played on it. ... Whilst I agree with your post about the turrets needing looking at in the future, the part I've quoted just simply wasn't the case. We lost 2 tanks I think most and 3 dropships. That's 3 million Isk or there abouts total. I've earned 2mill a day roughly all week playing militia fits in preparation and not cared about my k/d. Possibly more. Anything we put on the field could easily of been acquired by anyone if they wanted it that bad. That's all I'm saying.
Traky78 What The French 115	Posted - 2012.10.27 18:49:00 - [53] - Quote This was a kitten laggy game, also you use OP things to win. Turrets are just amazing.. You know what is the definition of a D R O P S H I P ??
Cyn Bruin Imperfects Negative-Feedback 651	Posted - 2012.10.27 18:51:00 - [54] - Quote Sha Kharn Clone wrote: 5 point Thought they took 5pt out of the rotation for this?
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 285	Posted - 2012.10.27 18:53:00 - [55] - Quote Can I be painfully blunt here and point out that WTF's dropships never stayed in the air for more than a minute? You can't complain they're OP when we had the exact counters waiting for yours. I admire WTF's skills. I have to think twice about my game when I see them on a roster, but this should be above players of such talents.
Grezkev The Red Guards 100	Posted - 2012.10.27 18:57:00 - [56] - Quote If you guys had to pick between the two; Turrets and Vehicles, what would you say was the bigger factor for victory / loss?
Zekain Kade BetaMax. 931	Posted - 2012.10.27 19:02:00 - [57] - Quote Traky78 wrote: This was a kitten laggy game, also you use OP things to win. Turrets are just amazing.. You know what is the definition of a D R O P S H I P ?? why restrict your self to only use a vehicle built for one purpose? why not try to find other ways of using it, why just use it for one thing? being able to think outside the box is what separates good players from bad players. I use rail gun tanks as AA weapons when they're meant to only take out other tanks, or LAV's.
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.10.27 19:02:00 - [58] - Quote I lost 3 dropships and a tank also . Im the scrub they just take along for the ride tho
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1060	Posted - 2012.10.27 19:02:00 - [59] - Quote Traky78 wrote: This was a kitten laggy game, also you use OP things to win. Turrets are just amazing.. You know what is the definition of a D R O P S H I P ?? Well i used XT-1 fragmented missile launchers on it. Now go look on the turret skills that you need for that plus the light playoad II damage mod for smal missile turrets. And yeh my definition of a dropship is to drop enemy mercs with a missile launcher turret. Oh and ive got 5 million out of the corp wallet to get 12 myrons. You destroyed 3 in that match makes 9 that i got leftover from the corp funding me. And yes our corp wallet has beeing wiped from Eve ISK before this started.
Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 192	Posted - 2012.10.27 19:02:00 - [60] - Quote Grezkev wrote: If you guys had to pick between the two; Turrets and Vehicles, what would you say was the bigger factor for victory / loss? Better tactics and troop deployment. So neither really.



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