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GLOO GLOO
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Posted - 2012.10.27 18:14:00 -
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Everyone can use a dropship, but at the moment, no one of us like this gaming style.
Well, GJ to SI, but it wasn't a GG... |
GLOO GLOO
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Posted - 2012.10.27 18:24:00 -
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Baracka Flocka Flame wrote:Ya not to sound like a douche or get involved here, but you should of expected people to use dropships, of course people will flock to the OP thing thats how all video games work. Regardless this tournament was rushed and is already a joke so i wouldn't feel to bad on urselfs WTF. Hopefully CCP learns from this, all we can ask.
We were prepare : Forge, Swarm, an a small tank, but with fire power. Some of us skilled to be AV, but 1 - Swarm are useless, even if you skill in it, and 2 - with the lag (that we all have), Forge and Tank can't aim properly a Flying Dropship All Around with OP turrets with a 5M ISK skill passive book...
Fix swarms and game lag mechanics, and maybe it will more difficult to be so OP for dropships. |
GLOO GLOO
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Posted - 2012.10.27 18:33:00 -
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Baracka Flocka Flame wrote:Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Baracka Flocka Flame wrote:Ya not to sound like a douche or get involved here, but you should of expected people to use dropships, of course people will flock to the OP thing thats how all video games work. Regardless this tournament was rushed and is already a joke so i wouldn't feel to bad on urselfs WTF. Hopefully CCP learns from this, all we can ask. We expected it. And had things planned but they were pretty much inefficient basically. At some point, almost every ones effort was focused on it. And even then it still had the upper hand. Not mentionning that the rest of SI was having a fun time while we were at it. We couldnt just say "hey let's have a myron ourselves like that" in less than 2 weeks lol. I wont say everything we had as tourney still rolls but believe me when i say we had A LOT of things planned ^^ Ya i hear you man. We had the pleasure of playing STB the day DUST got all the money from Eve so we exp'd the never ending vehicle spam too, you take one out theres another to replace it and it forces you to use half ur team on AV. Like i said, all we can hope for is CCP to learn from this maybe, just maybe get some better balanced tournaments in the future. Cause yes for now, Vehicle spam will win you a corp battle no problem(not to mention whichever corps have stock piled assets up from the Eve->Dust money).
The problem is that we could see thoos ISK transfert at the first day release....
Well, I wasn't expecting a World of Tank game. But maybe with restrictions, and a real MMO on the battlefield, we could have a deal |
GLOO GLOO
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Posted - 2012.10.27 20:05:00 -
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Congrats SI
Of course, we are talking about it at the moment, you maybe have got the better strategy/tactic/teamplay to win this tournament (skills and fit too)
You have a really good adaptation with what the market offers, and your way to see the game.
BUT, our 2nd match against GAC was just totally different. I don't know how they saw it on their side, but it was "latency playable". And we had the same 15, with the same aptitudes...
Right, GAC are not as good as you are with vehicules, but it was obsviouly a another networking world. |
GLOO GLOO
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Posted - 2012.10.28 07:53:00 -
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DJINN Punisher wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Seriously good players will always stick to that what works the best and because this game has a lot of vehicles which are very strong they will use that. if you don't stay on a competitive lvl of gear you will get defeated. All is fair in love and war.... Don't in anyway discount our gun game it's there. SI played some terrific matches today using what the game provided, and depending on who we face our tactics will change, but in this case Sha's decisions were right on and our players did a terrific job analyzing the battle field then using the tools given to us to control it. Bashing in anyway after the battle is something that should never happen, I'm sure players had strengths on the other teams that were not utilized due to the direction of the battle, but once again its a "WAR game" and if people are confused with the concept : War is an organized, armed, and, often, a prolonged conflict that is carried on between states, nations, or other parties typified by extreme aggression, social disruption, and usually high mortality.[1][2] War should be understood as an actual, intentional and widespread armed conflict between political communities, and therefore is defined as a form of political violence.[1][3] The set of techniques used by a group to carry out war is known as warfare. Armies will always use the best tactics and weapons in their arsenal to win said battles it is part of the techniques that make up "Warfare ". Great job to everyone who participated, and to those that won or lost with dignity!
I told you, I've got no problem with what u used, or the way you used it.
But I can't take out of my mind this question : why the game was so stable against GAC (a EU Corp) on a EU server ? It felt like a game. Against you, it was a war against lag and game playability. It wasn't a game at all, because with the same forces than you on our side, we won't have a any chance either... |
GLOO GLOO
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Posted - 2012.10.28 10:11:00 -
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STYLIE77 wrote:crazy space wrote:Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Good game.
Clone depletion.
SI had 126 clones left.
Hats off 2 wtf was a very good fight. Very good fight ? Meode in its dropship turret did 25% of the work. Swarm launchers and FG woulnt hit it at all. Also, turrets pretty much OSing people ? And two tanks did half the rest of the job. I may have had 4 real infantry fights overall. I watched scores and in the end. Half of the SI team with the main vehicles and it would have ended the same way. You could have played without trying to get any objectives and you would have clone depleted us anyway. Conclusion : An interesting fight to show real flaws in the game at this stage. Vehicle turrets are way too powerfull imo. Also, but i think it was for every player. What a massive amount of Lag well duh, CCP shouldn't of been balancing this beta based on non Team vs.Team matches in the 1st place. CCP should have added corp support LONG AGO... then they would have massive amounts of data in regards to how these maps are REALLY going to be played, how gear and vehicles are REALLY going to be exploited and how the economy is REALLY going to flow... For a game that the entire concept is centered directly on CORP (clan) meta game and tactics on large scale maps in an even larger universe.... I wonder why they have waited so long to actually start beta testing the CORPS ... This current beta build and this tourney are a good start in the right direction by CCP in my opinion... Getting back to the core roots of the very concept of DUST 514... The Mercenary Corps
Agree.
DUST 514 is maybe not the game that I was (some of us were) waiting for... It's closer to BF than to MAG : VPS 1st, FPS 2nd.
But if we check carefully the trailer, all you see is vehicules and heavies... So it's clearly right on the board : all you have to do is being immortal, and just fews options are on the market to aim this as we have so large open maps.
Assault, scouts and logis can just exist in a communication ambush.
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GLOO GLOO
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Posted - 2012.10.28 10:55:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:GLOO GLOO wrote:
But I can't take out of my mind this question : why the game was so stable against GAC (a EU Corp) on a EU server ? It felt like a game. Against you, it was a war against lag and game playability. It wasn't a game at all, because with the same forces than you on our side, we won't have a any chance either...
After first two matches CCP resets servers. If this helps.. good.
That's true...
Well, I really don't blame SI. And obviously, I didn't see before this morning that you could fit small missile turret prototype on a milicia dropship with so few SPs (WTF?????)... Add a gunner with passives turrets skills, and it's really OS all the time. Well, I'm working on my piloting...
But trust me when I tell you that I aimed a tank with a Forge, HUD was red, standing on the road in front of him (he was aiming C, not me) and bullets just went through !!!
So tell me how was it possible to Sir Meode to make 40+ kills with a dropship everytime in mouvement with same lags that I'd got ???????
Well, I'm sure that you'll have win with a stable game server, and the same organisation we all put in place. BUT you'll have lose more than 2 tanks and 3 dropships.... |
GLOO GLOO
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Posted - 2012.10.28 11:19:00 -
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Sir Meode wrote:GLOO GLOO wrote: That's true...
Well, I really don't blame SI. And obviously, I didn't see before this morning that you could fit small missile turret prototype on a milicia dropship with so few SPs (WTF?????)... Add a gunner with passives turrets skills, and it's really OS all the time. Well, I'm working on my piloting...
dedicated vehicle users putting all SP gains into one area thats how
Just the point "Turret Prototype" on "Milicia, lvl1 dropship". This is unbalance... |
GLOO GLOO
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Posted - 2012.10.28 11:40:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:GLOO GLOO wrote:Sir Meode wrote:GLOO GLOO wrote: That's true...
Well, I really don't blame SI. And obviously, I didn't see before this morning that you could fit small missile turret prototype on a milicia dropship with so few SPs (WTF?????)... Add a gunner with passives turrets skills, and it's really OS all the time. Well, I'm working on my piloting...
dedicated vehicle users putting all SP gains into one area thats how Just the point "Turret Prototype" on "Milicia, lvl1 dropship". This is unbalance... pretty sure u can fit a prototype AR on a militia dropsuit i dont see the difference tbh hes gonna have less options elsewhere fitting wise Thing is though, that proto gun on militia assault suit will eat up over half your cpu. It doesnt eat half your cpu on the dropship. dropship can fly in circles with no tank mods needed and avoid getting shot. Militia suit with proto gun has no tank and dies by ground shrapnel flying up into his eye when a missile from dropship lands 10m by him
Thanks, didn't have bravour to answer this ....
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GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.28 11:46:00 -
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Well, GJ to SI, we'll normaly have at least 2 others matchs against you to try something else.
The first thing i'll be checking is server stability, server crash just after or not ... |
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GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.28 11:53:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:I do hope one is not suggesting foul play.
Absolutely not Sha, I just want to say that I'll accept fairly defeat in a good environnement...
You're for sure in the favorite group to win the tournament, but i'd like to play a game against you as we played against GAC, and I'll be checking this evening too against MAPHIA (if they show up) |
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