There's no reason to match by input type when you can match by skill which, by the way, the game (in theory) does. You don't see much proper matchmaking right now because of the very limited player base.

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The worst keyboard/mouse player will not be better than the best DS3 player. Separating it by controller type wouldn't by the best way to do it. As Odius pointed out, simply taking the end results and intelligently matchmaking by player ability, period, is the way to go about it.

I appreciate we're still in beta, but I'd like to make a suggestion.

That suggestion being CCP pit people together based on control being used.
Me being a DS3 controller user, I feel I'm limited severely in aiming speed and accuracy.
Mouse/keyboard users I suspect have greatly improved aiming abilities.

I'm not complaining about keyboard/mouse users, I simply hope the final game considers the differences and puts people into matches against people using the same controller.

I disagree. The controller has a huge impact and very effectively creates an uneven playing field.
I'd love to see the stats...when and if they are broken down by controller type...I'd wager -ú100 the top 100 players will all be using keyboard/mouse.

I disagree. The controller has a huge impact and very effectively creates an uneven playing field.
I'd love to see the stats...when and if they are broken down by controller type...I'd wager -ú100 the top 100 players will all be using keyboard/mouse.

what a load of crap, most of the players that can consistently beat me are controller users, i'd wager that your crap and in order to keep your ego from imploding you've gotta grasp at any excuse you can find for why you aren't the best player in the game.

what a load of crap, most of the players that can consistently beat me are controller users, i'd wager that your crap and in order to keep your ego from imploding you've gotta grasp at any excuse you can find for why you aren't the best player in the game.

You spelt you're wrong.

You spelt you're wrong.

what a load of crap, most of the players that can consistently beat me are controller users.

There's no question mouse and keyboard wins over controller every time, all things being equal. A killer player with a pad just doesn't have the same tactile ability. This isn't really debatable and no point in arguing it here... we've seen it time and time again in other shooters. Try hooking up a controller to your PC and play a few rounds of TF2... most pubbers will slaughter you, even average ones. You just can't track as reliably, or turn as easily. Can a good pad player hold his own? Sure, but it's in spite of the controller and overcoming a handicap.

That said, they can very much make up for this just by ramping up auto-aim on controllers a bit. As it is, I can barely tell the difference, to the point of suspecting it isn't actually active yet. Good aim assist is essential to most shooters (they've all got it, even if you don't realize it) on console, especially when mixing with mouse and keyboard players. There'll still be some disparity, but it should be pretty negligible with decent aim assist.

Also might help if you could hold a button or double tap a direction to turn faster on the controller. Non-issue for mouse users, but on a pad the trade-off of turning speed for steadiness is much more apparent than on a mouse. Even still, as long as the aim assist is working properly, this is less of an issue. Just would be nice.

What a load of crap, most of the players that beat me are KB/M users.... this argument will always be the eternal question... better aim over better movement...

What a load of crap, most of the players that beat me are KB/M users.... this argument will always be the eternal question... better aim over better movement...

So basically "give controller users aimbots, and all will be well". I just summed up your entire TL:DR.

How about, like others have said, take the end result of player skill, all things considered, and match people based on that. I'll have you know that I've seen many gamepad users that can get the headshot every time in games like CoD and BF, it all comes down to skill.

I appreciate we're still in beta, but I'd like to make a suggestion.

That suggestion being CCP pit people together based on control being used.
Me being a DS3 controller user, I feel I'm limited severely in aiming speed and accuracy.
Mouse/keyboard users I suspect have greatly improved aiming abilities.

I'm not complaining about keyboard/mouse users, I simply hope the final game considers the differences and puts people into matches against people using the same controller.

most of the players that beat me are controller users. lol.

*sigh*. No. You just don't know how game development works.

Oh lordy, we got ourselves geniass over here!

I know what aim assist is, I know how it works, and I know most games have it. I also know that I dislike it, I turn it off (down) in all games I play, as it really just interferes with the experience if the actual controls work properly. Don't go thinking you're the god of knowledge here.

Oh lordy, we got ourselves geniass over here!

I know what aim assist is, I know how it works, and I know most games have it. I also know that I dislike it, I turn it off (down) in all games I play, as it really just interferes with the experience if the actual controls work properly. Don't go thinking you're the god of knowledge here.

My question is, what stops you from using the KB/M that you used to type this forum thread.

I disagree. The controller has a huge impact and very effectively creates an uneven playing field.
I'd love to see the stats...when and if they are broken down by controller type...I'd wager -ú100 the top 100 players will all be using keyboard/mouse.