DUST Search - KingBabars top 10 reasons why proxy chat would make Dust better.

KingBabar wrote:

EnglishSnake wrote:

KingBabar wrote:

1. Being able to smack talk your enemy. - Talk smack on forums - Why would I do that? Its a heat of the moment kind of thing.

2. Listening to all their QQ while they're dead at your feet. - They will whine about it on forums ie STB complaining that SI used tanks on them when all they did was use tank in random matches - I don't get this one, whats the point?

3. You have to be silent when sneaking about, a cough might cost you your life. - But my clone has a dropsuit with a helmet on, its soundproof aswell so no - No no, realism argument looses by default vs gameplay/fun argument.

4. You can verbally abuse friendly redline snipers. - Once FF is on then TK instead - Now you can do both!

5. You can tell that bluedot to come join your venture instead of goofing about all the time. - Not if hes sat 500m away on top of a hill - That was hardly my point...

6. We'll eventually get vids of people QQing on proxy. - Not important at all - off course not, still funny though.

7. Cross squad communications on the battlefield while being close. - Maybe the only use for it tbh, if anything should be able to tap into each others comms if on same team - Why over complicate it?

8. It just makes the game alot more fun. - Meh, 50/50

9. ???

10. Profit.

Overall no tbh

I really don't see any problems with it. Its not like you can't press the mute button if things get too bad for you. In other words: Is there any good arguments against it? Why not implement it, it would bring much joy for those who cares about it without any drawbacks for the, well, dunno the English term, we say "drysticks" were I come from.

I'm seriously dissapointed in you Snake, after all, you have some hours in MAG, don't you miss it?

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KingBabar Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 443	Posted - 2012.10.19 08:03:00 - [1] - Quote 1. Being able to smack talk your enemy. 2. Listening to all their QQ while they're dead at your feet. 3. You have to be silent when sneaking about, a cough might cost you your life. 4. You can verbally abuse friendly redline snipers. 5. You can tell that bluedot to come join your venture instead of goofing about all the time. 6. We'll eventually get vids of people QQing on proxy. 7. Cross squad communications on the battlefield while being close. 8. It just makes the game alot more fun. 9. ??? 10. Profit.
pew pew youredead What The French 98	Posted - 2012.10.19 08:44:00 - [2] - Quote no point in talking to the enemy. wanna smack? use local. this is not a kiddy game. if i want to hear someone QQ i invite him to a private chat and make fun of him and where the hell is profit. you dont gain isk collecting tears and you only have 8 points not 10 you big fat liar
JaZZa01 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 81	Posted - 2012.10.19 08:56:00 - [3] - Quote No prox chat takes away all the life of the game. Add it CCP. I command thee.
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 760	Posted - 2012.10.19 11:46:00 - [4] - Quote I would like to shout at you when you keep killing me with the Codewish, you're the only person other than me i've see that uses it so far.
KingBabar Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 443	Posted - 2012.10.19 11:55:00 - [5] - Quote Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote: I would like to shout at you when you keep killing me with the Codewish, you're the only person other than me i've see that uses it so far. The trick is headshots..... And yes, they have to fry that gun out of my cold dead hands....
Akuma Fumetsu United Mercenary Assault Force 11	Posted - 2012.10.19 12:09:00 - [6] - Quote proxy is a good idea for squads would save you having to press a button a close range, but i don't think you should be able to talk to the enemy not really any point, but hearing them talk could be useful. it would have to be a module (audio scanner or something along those lines) for it to work.
KingBabar Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 443	Posted - 2012.10.19 12:14:00 - [7] - Quote Akuma Fumetsu wrote: proxy is a good idea for squads would save you having to press a button a close range, but i don't think you should be able to talk to the enemy not really any point, but hearing them talk could be useful. it would have to be a module (audio scanner or something along those lines) for it to work. And you haven't ever played a shooter with proxy chat before?
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.10.19 12:20:00 - [8] - Quote KingBabar wrote: 1. Being able to smack talk your enemy. - Talk smack on forums 2. Listening to all their QQ while they're dead at your feet. - They will whine about it on forums ie STB complaining that SI used tanks on them when all they did was use tank in random matches 3. You have to be silent when sneaking about, a cough might cost you your life. - But my clone has a dropsuit with a helmet on, its soundproof aswell so no 4. You can verbally abuse friendly redline snipers. - Once FF is on then TK instead 5. You can tell that bluedot to come join your venture instead of goofing about all the time. - Not if hes sat 500m away on top of a hill 6. We'll eventually get vids of people QQing on proxy. - Not important at all 7. Cross squad communications on the battlefield while being close. - Maybe the only use for it tbh, if anything should be able to tap into each others comms if on same team 8. It just makes the game alot more fun. - Meh, 50/50 9. ??? 10. Profit. Overall no tbh
Brahma El Indio Bragian Order Amarr Empire 171	Posted - 2012.10.19 12:22:00 - [9] - Quote Proxy chat. expletive yeah. Its a must have. Dont give me the lame helmet radio frequency excuses If Planetside can do it why not dust Now, Donnabelle, where are you?
KingBabar Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 443	Posted - 2012.10.19 12:40:00 - [10] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: KingBabar wrote: 1. Being able to smack talk your enemy. - Talk smack on forums - Why would I do that? Its a heat of the moment kind of thing. 2. Listening to all their QQ while they're dead at your feet. - They will whine about it on forums ie STB complaining that SI used tanks on them when all they did was use tank in random matches - I don't get this one, whats the point? 3. You have to be silent when sneaking about, a cough might cost you your life. - But my clone has a dropsuit with a helmet on, its soundproof aswell so no - No no, realism argument looses by default vs gameplay/fun argument. 4. You can verbally abuse friendly redline snipers. - Once FF is on then TK instead - Now you can do both! 5. You can tell that bluedot to come join your venture instead of goofing about all the time. - Not if hes sat 500m away on top of a hill - That was hardly my point... 6. We'll eventually get vids of people QQing on proxy. - Not important at all - off course not, still funny though. 7. Cross squad communications on the battlefield while being close. - Maybe the only use for it tbh, if anything should be able to tap into each others comms if on same team - Why over complicate it? 8. It just makes the game alot more fun. - Meh, 50/50 9. ??? 10. Profit. Overall no tbh I really don't see any problems with it. Its not like you can't press the mute button if things get too bad for you. In other words: Is there any good arguments against it? Why not implement it, it would bring much joy for those who cares about it without any drawbacks for the, well, dunno the English term, we say "drysticks" were I come from. I'm seriously dissapointed in you Snake, after all, you have some hours in MAG, don't you miss it?

EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.10.19 12:50:00 - [11] - Quote KingBabar wrote: EnglishSnake wrote: KingBabar wrote: 1. Being able to smack talk your enemy. - Talk smack on forums - Why would I do that? Its a heat of the moment kind of thing. 2. Listening to all their QQ while they're dead at your feet. - They will whine about it on forums ie STB complaining that SI used tanks on them when all they did was use tank in random matches - I don't get this one, whats the point? 3. You have to be silent when sneaking about, a cough might cost you your life. - But my clone has a dropsuit with a helmet on, its soundproof aswell so no - No no, realism argument looses by default vs gameplay/fun argument. 4. You can verbally abuse friendly redline snipers. - Once FF is on then TK instead - Now you can do both! 5. You can tell that bluedot to come join your venture instead of goofing about all the time. - Not if hes sat 500m away on top of a hill - That was hardly my point... 6. We'll eventually get vids of people QQing on proxy. - Not important at all - off course not, still funny though. 7. Cross squad communications on the battlefield while being close. - Maybe the only use for it tbh, if anything should be able to tap into each others comms if on same team - Why over complicate it? 8. It just makes the game alot more fun. - Meh, 50/50 9. ??? 10. Profit. Overall no tbh I really don't see any problems with it. Its not like you can't press the mute button if things get too bad for you. In other words: Is there any good arguments against it? Why not implement it, it would bring much joy for those who cares about it without any drawbacks for the, well, dunno the English term, we say "drysticks" were I come from. I'm seriously dissapointed in you Snake, after all, you have some hours in MAG, don't you miss it? Do i **** miss it Pointless to have and i never bothered over it anyways, its not important at all tbh more important stuff which needs to be fixed 1st tbh Its meh at best the arguments are just use local and forums
Ginxses 6	Posted - 2012.10.19 13:10:00 - [12] - Quote allows u to talk with blue dots and communicate with them since many wont be on team chat. from a tactics standpoint it is very imp for that reason alone.
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.10.19 13:11:00 - [13] - Quote Ginxses wrote: allows u to talk with blue dots and communicate with them since many wont be on team chat. from a tactics standpoint it is very imp for that reason alone. Not really because enemy can also hear you
Ginxses 6	Posted - 2012.10.19 13:16:00 - [14] - Quote so? not like enemy can hear u from across the map since we havent heard about hacked transmissions yet. if you talk within earshot of the enemy they should hear you.being quiet around the enemy is critical in war. anything that increases communication is great for this gm.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Legacy Rising 404	Posted - 2012.10.19 13:42:00 - [15] - Quote Been thinking about this for 3 builds. Any sensible player knows proxy chat is a two-edeged sword, but it can add to the overall game experience in spite of the obvious racist, misogynistic, bigoted, homophobic, generally ignorant greifing potential. I think if we could have proxy without mindless idiosy we'd all go for it. The solution i like best is for CCP to set up 2 permanent chat channels - 'Proxy - Team' and 'Proxy - All' that we as players can opt in/out of at will. These channels would get piggybacked onto our 'Squad'/'Team' if we were subscribed to those channels. Seems like a resonable compromise using (mostly)existing game architecture.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Legacy Rising 404	Posted - 2012.10.19 13:42:00 - [16] - Quote Double post due to wonky forum mechanics.
Super Cargo Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 428	Posted - 2012.10.19 14:03:00 - [17] - Quote There is no real reason not to have proxy.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Legacy Rising 404	Posted - 2012.10.19 14:41:00 - [18] - Quote Super Cargo wrote: There is no real reason not to have proxy. Any sensible player knows proxy chat is a two-edeged sword, but it can add to the overall game experience in spite of the obvious racist, misogynistic, bigoted, homophobic, generally ignorant greifing potential. I think if we could have proxy without mindless idiosy we'd all go for it.
DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 1902	Posted - 2012.10.19 15:05:00 - [19] - Quote They should have proxy chat in Null security, to add to it's outlands feel. That way you can mess with people in null, get into their heads and what not. <3 proxy chat. Vrain Matari wrote: proxy without mindless idiocy ???
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.10.19 15:15:00 - [20] - Quote Super Cargo wrote: There is no real reason to have proxy.

Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2012.10.19 15:19:00 - [21] - Quote Lol. How about a solution for the current universe? Add a local channel, done. Why bother having the second step of forcing squads to use a private channel, or worse, out of game comms, just to talk in peace?
Super Cargo Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 428	Posted - 2012.10.19 16:11:00 - [22] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: Super Cargo wrote: There is no real reason to have proxy. Nice edit. I guess those who are faint of heart and get offended when opposing players talk crap about them wouldn't like it. Personally, my sensibilities get hurt everytime some random guy on the internet makes fun of my mother. DOWN WITH PROXY CHAT
ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS 1NC 391	Posted - 2012.10.19 16:27:00 - [23] - Quote D'ya know why we played MAG as long as we did, because comms were excellent and proxy was hilarious. This game is just downright dull.
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.10.19 17:09:00 - [24] - Quote Super Cargo wrote: EnglishSnake wrote: Super Cargo wrote: There is no real reason to have proxy. Nice edit. I guess those who are faint of heart and get offended when opposing players talk crap about them wouldn't like it. Personally, my sensibilities get hurt everytime some random guy on the internet makes fun of my mother. DOWN WITH PROXY CHAT Some do I frankly couldnt give a **** but i dont fancy hearing dumb redneck talk and all other kinds of crap tbh it bores me ive heard it all to begin with
Ignatius Crumwald Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 475	Posted - 2012.10.19 18:36:00 - [25] - Quote Proxy chat is awesome. You can turn it off in MAG, and a lot of us did in clan battles, but then you can't do the Friday the 13th or Jaws theme as you stalk someone though the foliage in Darien Network, go prone on their corpse, and tell them to, "Squeeeeeeee!".
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2012.10.19 18:38:00 - [26] - Quote Proxy chat is fine. As long as it's optional. I support a local channel ON/OFF like push to talk to make this happen.
ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS 1NC 391	Posted - 2012.10.19 18:49:00 - [27] - Quote Aw snake you sure are a sensitive little soul.
JaZZa01 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 81	Posted - 2012.10.20 01:35:00 - [28] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: Super Cargo wrote: EnglishSnake wrote: Super Cargo wrote: There is no real reason to have proxy. Nice edit. I guess those who are faint of heart and get offended when opposing players talk crap about them wouldn't like it. Personally, my sensibilities get hurt everytime some random guy on the internet makes fun of my mother. DOWN WITH PROXY CHAT Some do I frankly couldnt give a ** but i dont fancy hearing dumb redneck talk and all other kinds of crap tbh it bores me ive heard it all to begin with Snake = Buzz Killington. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFcqGGMPc3k&feature=related Seriously, you're ***** annoying lol.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 323	Posted - 2012.10.20 01:46:00 - [29] - Quote Ginxses wrote: allows u to talk with blue dots and communicate with them since many wont be on team chat. from a tactics standpoint it is very imp for that reason alone. Most blue dots don't have mics anyway,so unless the proxy comes out of your TV it has no value. I thought that proxy would be good,but it just breeds way too much animosity in a game that probably won't need it. Like someone else said,if you need to trash talk your enemy,invite them to a separate channel for that.
ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS 1NC 391	Posted - 2012.10.20 06:35:00 - [30] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: Ginxses wrote: allows u to talk with blue dots and communicate with them since many wont be on team chat. from a tactics standpoint it is very imp for that reason alone. Most blue dots don't have mics anyway,so unless the proxy comes out of your TV it has no value. I thought that proxy would be good,but it just breeds way too much animosity in a game that probably won't need it. Like someone else said,if you need to trash talk your enemy,invite them to a separate channel for that. You'd be very surprised how many have mics actually. you don't hear them or come into contact because the comms set up in this game is truly one of the worst I've come across in an FPS. If you or anyone else ever played MAG you would know what excellent comms set up can do for a game. If you haven't, go play it and see for yourself. Then you'll be talking from experience rather than guessing.



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