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KingBabar
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
443
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Posted - 2012.10.19 08:03:00 -
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1. Being able to smack talk your enemy.
2. Listening to all their QQ while they're dead at your feet.
3. You have to be silent when sneaking about, a cough might cost you your life.
4. You can verbally abuse friendly redline snipers.
5. You can tell that bluedot to come join your venture instead of goofing about all the time.
6. We'll eventually get vids of people QQing on proxy.
7. Cross squad communications on the battlefield while being close.
8. It just makes the game alot more fun.
9. ???
10. Profit. |
pew pew youredead
What The French
98
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Posted - 2012.10.19 08:44:00 -
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no point in talking to the enemy. wanna smack? use local. this is not a kiddy game. if i want to hear someone QQ i invite him to a private chat and make fun of him and where the hell is profit. you dont gain isk collecting tears and you only have 8 points not 10 you big fat liar |
JaZZa01
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
81
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Posted - 2012.10.19 08:56:00 -
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No prox chat takes away all the life of the game. Add it CCP. I command thee. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.10.19 11:46:00 -
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I would like to shout at you when you keep killing me with the Codewish, you're the only person other than me i've see that uses it so far. |
KingBabar
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
443
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Posted - 2012.10.19 11:55:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:I would like to shout at you when you keep killing me with the Codewish, you're the only person other than me i've see that uses it so far.
The trick is headshots.....
And yes, they have to fry that gun out of my cold dead hands.... |
Akuma Fumetsu
United Mercenary Assault Force
11
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Posted - 2012.10.19 12:09:00 -
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proxy is a good idea for squads would save you having to press a button a close range, but i don't think you should be able to talk to the enemy not really any point, but hearing them talk could be useful. it would have to be a module (audio scanner or something along those lines) for it to work. |
KingBabar
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
443
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Posted - 2012.10.19 12:14:00 -
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Akuma Fumetsu wrote: proxy is a good idea for squads would save you having to press a button a close range, but i don't think you should be able to talk to the enemy not really any point, but hearing them talk could be useful. it would have to be a module (audio scanner or something along those lines) for it to work.
And you haven't ever played a shooter with proxy chat before? |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.10.19 12:20:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:1. Being able to smack talk your enemy. - Talk smack on forums
2. Listening to all their QQ while they're dead at your feet. - They will whine about it on forums ie STB complaining that SI used tanks on them when all they did was use tank in random matches
3. You have to be silent when sneaking about, a cough might cost you your life. - But my clone has a dropsuit with a helmet on, its soundproof aswell so no
4. You can verbally abuse friendly redline snipers. - Once FF is on then TK instead
5. You can tell that bluedot to come join your venture instead of goofing about all the time. - Not if hes sat 500m away on top of a hill
6. We'll eventually get vids of people QQing on proxy. - Not important at all
7. Cross squad communications on the battlefield while being close. - Maybe the only use for it tbh, if anything should be able to tap into each others comms if on same team
8. It just makes the game alot more fun. - Meh, 50/50
9. ???
10. Profit.
Overall no tbh |
Brahma El Indio
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
171
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Posted - 2012.10.19 12:22:00 -
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Proxy chat. *expletive* yeah.
Its a must have.
Dont give me the lame helmet radio frequency excuses
If Planetside can do it why not dust
Now, Donnabelle, where are you? |
KingBabar
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
443
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Posted - 2012.10.19 12:40:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:KingBabar wrote:1. Being able to smack talk your enemy. - Talk smack on forums - Why would I do that? Its a heat of the moment kind of thing.
2. Listening to all their QQ while they're dead at your feet. - They will whine about it on forums ie STB complaining that SI used tanks on them when all they did was use tank in random matches - I don't get this one, whats the point?
3. You have to be silent when sneaking about, a cough might cost you your life. - But my clone has a dropsuit with a helmet on, its soundproof aswell so no - No no, realism argument looses by default vs gameplay/fun argument.
4. You can verbally abuse friendly redline snipers. - Once FF is on then TK instead - Now you can do both!
5. You can tell that bluedot to come join your venture instead of goofing about all the time. - Not if hes sat 500m away on top of a hill - That was hardly my point...
6. We'll eventually get vids of people QQing on proxy. - Not important at all - off course not, still funny though.
7. Cross squad communications on the battlefield while being close. - Maybe the only use for it tbh, if anything should be able to tap into each others comms if on same team - Why over complicate it?
8. It just makes the game alot more fun. - Meh, 50/50
9. ???
10. Profit. Overall no tbh
I really don't see any problems with it. Its not like you can't press the mute button if things get too bad for you. In other words: Is there any good arguments against it? Why not implement it, it would bring much joy for those who cares about it without any drawbacks for the, well, dunno the English term, we say "drysticks" were I come from.
I'm seriously dissapointed in you Snake, after all, you have some hours in MAG, don't you miss it? |
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EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.10.19 12:50:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:KingBabar wrote:1. Being able to smack talk your enemy. - Talk smack on forums - Why would I do that? Its a heat of the moment kind of thing.
2. Listening to all their QQ while they're dead at your feet. - They will whine about it on forums ie STB complaining that SI used tanks on them when all they did was use tank in random matches - I don't get this one, whats the point?
3. You have to be silent when sneaking about, a cough might cost you your life. - But my clone has a dropsuit with a helmet on, its soundproof aswell so no - No no, realism argument looses by default vs gameplay/fun argument.
4. You can verbally abuse friendly redline snipers. - Once FF is on then TK instead - Now you can do both!
5. You can tell that bluedot to come join your venture instead of goofing about all the time. - Not if hes sat 500m away on top of a hill - That was hardly my point...
6. We'll eventually get vids of people QQing on proxy. - Not important at all - off course not, still funny though.
7. Cross squad communications on the battlefield while being close. - Maybe the only use for it tbh, if anything should be able to tap into each others comms if on same team - Why over complicate it?
8. It just makes the game alot more fun. - Meh, 50/50
9. ???
10. Profit. Overall no tbh I really don't see any problems with it. Its not like you can't press the mute button if things get too bad for you. In other words: Is there any good arguments against it? Why not implement it, it would bring much joy for those who cares about it without any drawbacks for the, well, dunno the English term, we say "drysticks" were I come from. I'm seriously dissapointed in you Snake, after all, you have some hours in MAG, don't you miss it?
Do i **** miss it
Pointless to have and i never bothered over it anyways, its not important at all tbh more important stuff which needs to be fixed 1st tbh
Its meh at best the arguments are just use local and forums |
Ginxses
6
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Posted - 2012.10.19 13:10:00 -
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allows u to talk with blue dots and communicate with them since many wont be on team chat. from a tactics standpoint it is very imp for that reason alone. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.10.19 13:11:00 -
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Ginxses wrote:allows u to talk with blue dots and communicate with them since many wont be on team chat. from a tactics standpoint it is very imp for that reason alone.
Not really because enemy can also hear you |
Ginxses
6
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Posted - 2012.10.19 13:16:00 -
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so? not like enemy can hear u from across the map since we havent heard about hacked transmissions yet. if you talk within earshot of the enemy they should hear you.being quiet around the enemy is critical in war. anything that increases communication is great for this gm. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2012.10.19 13:42:00 -
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Been thinking about this for 3 builds.
Any sensible player knows proxy chat is a two-edeged sword, but it can add to the overall game experience in spite of the obvious racist, misogynistic, bigoted, homophobic, generally ignorant greifing potential. I think if we could have proxy without mindless idiosy we'd all go for it.
The solution i like best is for CCP to set up 2 permanent chat channels - 'Proxy - Team' and 'Proxy - All' that we as players can opt in/out of at will. These channels would get piggybacked onto our 'Squad'/'Team' if we were subscribed to those channels.
Seems like a resonable compromise using (mostly)existing game architecture. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2012.10.19 13:42:00 -
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Double post due to wonky forum mechanics. |
Super Cargo
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2012.10.19 14:03:00 -
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There is no real reason not to have proxy. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2012.10.19 14:41:00 -
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Super Cargo wrote:There is no real reason not to have proxy.
Any sensible player knows proxy chat is a two-edeged sword, but it can add to the overall game experience in spite of the obvious racist, misogynistic, bigoted, homophobic, generally ignorant greifing potential. I think if we could have proxy without mindless idiosy we'd all go for it.
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DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1902
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Posted - 2012.10.19 15:05:00 -
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They should have proxy chat in Null security, to add to it's outlands feel. That way you can mess with people in null, get into their heads and what not. <3 proxy chat.
Vrain Matari wrote:proxy without mindless idiocy
??? |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.10.19 15:15:00 -
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Super Cargo wrote:There is no real reason to have proxy.
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.10.19 15:19:00 -
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Lol. How about a solution for the current universe? Add a local channel, done. Why bother having the second step of forcing squads to use a private channel, or worse, out of game comms, just to talk in peace? |
Super Cargo
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2012.10.19 16:11:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:Super Cargo wrote:There is no real reason to have proxy.
Nice edit.
I guess those who are faint of heart and get offended when opposing players talk crap about them wouldn't like it. Personally, my sensibilities get hurt everytime some random guy on the internet makes fun of my mother. DOWN WITH PROXY CHAT |
ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
391
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Posted - 2012.10.19 16:27:00 -
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D'ya know why we played MAG as long as we did, because comms were excellent and proxy was hilarious.
This game is just downright dull. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.10.19 17:09:00 -
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Super Cargo wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:Super Cargo wrote:There is no real reason to have proxy. Nice edit. I guess those who are faint of heart and get offended when opposing players talk crap about them wouldn't like it. Personally, my sensibilities get hurt everytime some random guy on the internet makes fun of my mother. DOWN WITH PROXY CHAT
Some do
I frankly couldnt give a **** but i dont fancy hearing dumb redneck talk and all other kinds of crap tbh it bores me ive heard it all to begin with |
Ignatius Crumwald
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
475
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Posted - 2012.10.19 18:36:00 -
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Proxy chat is awesome.
You can turn it off in MAG, and a lot of us did in clan battles, but then you can't do the Friday the 13th or Jaws theme as you stalk someone though the foliage in Darien Network, go prone on their corpse, and tell them to, "Squeeeeeeee!". |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.10.19 18:38:00 -
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Proxy chat is fine. As long as it's optional. I support a local channel ON/OFF like push to talk to make this happen. |
ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
391
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Posted - 2012.10.19 18:49:00 -
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Aw snake you sure are a sensitive little soul. |
JaZZa01
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
81
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Posted - 2012.10.20 01:35:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:Super Cargo wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:Super Cargo wrote:There is no real reason to have proxy. Nice edit. I guess those who are faint of heart and get offended when opposing players talk crap about them wouldn't like it. Personally, my sensibilities get hurt everytime some random guy on the internet makes fun of my mother. DOWN WITH PROXY CHAT Some do I frankly couldnt give a **** but i dont fancy hearing dumb redneck talk and all other kinds of crap tbh it bores me ive heard it all to begin with Snake = Buzz Killington. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFcqGGMPc3k&feature=related
Seriously, you're ******* annoying lol.
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Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
323
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Posted - 2012.10.20 01:46:00 -
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Ginxses wrote:allows u to talk with blue dots and communicate with them since many wont be on team chat. from a tactics standpoint it is very imp for that reason alone.
Most blue dots don't have mics anyway,so unless the proxy comes out of your TV it has no value.
I thought that proxy would be good,but it just breeds way too much animosity in a game that probably won't need it.
Like someone else said,if you need to trash talk your enemy,invite them to a separate channel for that.
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ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
391
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Posted - 2012.10.20 06:35:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:Ginxses wrote:allows u to talk with blue dots and communicate with them since many wont be on team chat. from a tactics standpoint it is very imp for that reason alone. Most blue dots don't have mics anyway,so unless the proxy comes out of your TV it has no value. I thought that proxy would be good,but it just breeds way too much animosity in a game that probably won't need it. Like someone else said,if you need to trash talk your enemy,invite them to a separate channel for that.
You'd be very surprised how many have mics actually.
you don't hear them or come into contact because the comms set up in this game is truly one of the worst I've come across in an FPS.
If you or anyone else ever played MAG you would know what excellent comms set up can do for a game.
If you haven't, go play it and see for yourself. Then you'll be talking from experience rather than guessing. |
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Destroyer Rob
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2012.10.20 06:44:00 -
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I'm really not interested in comms and it's a big turnoff for me at this point. I liked EVE a lot but chilling with the bros and the occasional gamer girl (who became a precious commodity) all the time while fleeting got pretty lame fast. I had a great corp full of friendly and funny guys but it was a bit much and got to be kindof 'ehhh' a lot of the time, especially fleeting with alliance. I didn't used to mind it when I was younger playing games like SOCOM on PS2 remember chilling with lots of cool e-friends, but I dropped back into CoD online recently - picked up black ops the SP was amazing but hadnt tried the MP - first thing I noticed was how annoying everyone on comms was. I much prefer comms that are easily accessable and standard within the game, ie Tribes, CS quick chat buttons, league of legends blue/yellow pings. I usually have music on if I'm playing CS or some game on the PC that allows mic broadcasts. I know using a mic allows for some degree of communication and planning but eh. I put it in an earlier post but the main comms i think this game needs is a button that will 'spot' enemy troops/vehicles for the team. |
Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous
SyNergy Gaming
242
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Posted - 2012.10.20 07:01:00 -
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Destroyer Rob wrote:I'm really not interested in comms and it's a big turnoff for me at this point. I liked EVE a lot but chilling with the bros and the occasional gamer girl (who became a precious commodity) all the time while fleeting got pretty lame fast. I had a great corp full of friendly and funny guys but it was a bit much and got to be kindof 'ehhh' a lot of the time, especially fleeting with alliance. I didn't used to mind it when I was younger playing games like SOCOM on PS2 remember chilling with lots of cool e-friends, but I dropped back into CoD online recently - picked up black ops the SP was amazing but hadnt tried the MP - first thing I noticed was how annoying everyone on comms was. I much prefer comms that are easily accessable and standard within the game, ie Tribes, CS quick chat buttons, league of legends blue/yellow pings. I usually have music on if I'm playing CS or some game on the PC that allows mic broadcasts. I know using a mic allows for some degree of communication and planning but eh. I put it in an earlier post but the main comms i think this game needs is a button that will 'spot' enemy troops/vehicles for the team.
If you're, in every way, not interested in comms... then please delete your account.
Thank you.
(People coming on to a team focused game and dont fancy comms? random bluedots will be random bluedots i suppose)
As for OP, I do fancy the idea of proxy chat, trash talking builds the competitive end of things and does increase the fun of it. But im not much of a trash talker personally, so that does not particularly tickle my fancy, i just acknowledge certain social facts that go along with proxy.
I do think it deepens gameplay though, so proxychat would be a nice addition
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Destroyer Rob
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2012.10.20 07:07:00 -
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Delete my account? Please kid. I'm probably better than anyone in your corp. I don't plan on using a headset once.
Capable players dont need comms to play games like this. Ingame chat functions would be enough if they existed - a button that pointed out enemies like in TRIBES or BF as an example again (they really should add this)
This isnt EVE where youre calling out names on an overview to target, most stuff is common sense
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Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous
SyNergy Gaming
242
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Posted - 2012.10.20 07:15:00 -
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Destroyer Rob wrote:Delete my account? Please kid. I'm probably better than anyone in your corp. I don't plan on using a headset once.
Capable players dont need comms to play games like this. Ingame chat functions would be enough if they existed - a button that pointed out enemies like in TRIBES or BF as an example again (they really should add this)
This isnt EVE where youre calling out names on an overview to target, most stuff is common sense
So much fail in this post that its honestly shocking...
First, no, dont even, not for a second, think your better then most the players in my corp. I havnt seen your UbEr SkILLZ, but assuming your half decent... so what? whats 1 little dot against an organized squad?
"OH WELL OBVIOUSLY I CANT FACE 4 OF YOU!" ( 1v1 you probably wouldnt be better then most with a perception like that im sure)
Then you hit the nail on the head of what i was saying... its a team game, you can function as an individual and be a pubstar all you want, that dont mean ****. When you get a team working in synergy (not trying to boost corp name here, thats just the proper word to use) then you reach a level of fluidity and skill thats unattainable as an individual.
You are the epitome of what people mean when they call people a 'CoD player', they mean pubstars. Pubstars, (a pub being a random game, not organized competitive matches which are harder) just fight unorganized randoms and think they are top stuff. You are not top stuff, you are the top film on a layer of mold, thats all.
Edit: I stopped scanning for your name when i hit 2.00 on k/d, so even in the pubstar k/d mindset your not that good. I gave you way too much credit. |
ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
391
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Posted - 2012.10.20 07:33:00 -
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@ rob.
Are you honestly expecting anyone to take your posts seriously ?.
You dropped back into COD recently and '' it was annoying '' . Wow shock horror, was it really. lol.
I wouldn't say any more if I were you pal. |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.10.20 07:34:00 -
[36] - Quote
Local right now is not able to be used for smack talk but thats since we're stuck in a single local chat.
When it comes to release we should be able to move to different locals so that the team we are facing are also in local and then can come "gf" from EVE and Dust, cause you know dem fleets and armies gonna be working together by then
But not really important feature imo. |
Destroyer Rob
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2012.10.20 07:49:00 -
[37] - Quote
Well uh actually I used to play CS on the PC for money and I used comms then but I've outgrown it and don't like it anymore, i just play in pubs for fun and the comms never really did anything during the play anyways - good players were aware of what was happening, we had set plays we would run, comms were mainly for calling plays and targets - you dont do that in DUST. and I used to play CoD:WaW on gamebattles ranked.. so.. (plus, black ops was an amazing single player game, i liked the series from COD1 but the MW lost me - WaW and Black ops were probably 2 of the best games for me in the last decade though, liked black ops SP a looooot and WaW had great MP)
I am probably the best DUST player ever
And I wont use comms
Get mad?
Also my EVE records are probably the best |
Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous
SyNergy Gaming
242
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Posted - 2012.10.20 07:57:00 -
[38] - Quote
Destroyer Rob wrote:Well uh actually I used to play CS on the PC for money and I used comms then but I've outgrown it and don't like it anymore, i just play in pubs for fun and the comms never really did anything during the play anyways - good players were aware of what was happening, we had set plays we would run, comms were mainly for calling plays and targets - you dont do that in DUST. and I used to play CoD:WaW on gamebattles ranked.. so.. (plus, black ops was an amazing single player game, i liked the series from COD1 but the MW lost me - WaW and Black ops were probably 2 of the best games for me in the last decade though, liked black ops SP a looooot and WaW had great MP)
I am probably the best DUST player ever
And I wont use comms
Get mad?
Also my EVE records are probably the best
Not mad, you've just revealed yourself a troll. Troll me once, shame on you, troll me twice..
I actually agree CoD is competitive, but people use CoD to describe pubstars, not the competitive end of it, like you. |
Destroyer Rob
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2012.10.20 08:35:00 -
[39] - Quote
All I said about CoD was that Black Ops had an amazing single player and that everyone on the mics on MP were annoying |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.10.20 12:07:00 -
[40] - Quote
Noc Tempre wrote:Proxy chat is fine. As long as it's optional. I support a local channel ON/OFF like push to talk to make this happen.
Thats the only way i would have it
That way i can turn it off and no one but my team can hear me and enemy cant hear nothing |
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Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
323
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Posted - 2012.10.20 13:43:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Th3rdSun wrote:Ginxses wrote:allows u to talk with blue dots and communicate with them since many wont be on team chat. from a tactics standpoint it is very imp for that reason alone. Most blue dots don't have mics anyway,so unless the proxy comes out of your TV it has no value. I thought that proxy would be good,but it just breeds way too much animosity in a game that probably won't need it. Like someone else said,if you need to trash talk your enemy,invite them to a separate channel for that. You'd be very surprised how many have mics actually. you don't hear them or come into contact because the comms set up in this game is truly one of the worst I've come across in an FPS. If you or anyone else ever played MAG you would know what excellent comms set up can do for a game. If you haven't, go play it and see for yourself. Then you'll be talking from experience rather than guessing.
I played MAG for over two years and you're right,the comms set up was second to none,but this ain't MAG,and while I do feel like Dust should have more structure with the team leaders like MAG does,adding proxy wouldn't do anything to improve the game.
One thing that MAG didn't do that Dust does is actually give you the opportunity to communicate with the whole team BEFORE the match even starts.If only people would switch to TEAM CHAT,then many of the complaints about the comms in Dust would be suppressed.I understand proxy for your own team,but it's not necessary with the team chat function.
Besides all that,this beta has enough problems as it is,and people want to throw another thing into that mix to do god knows what?Let them fix the hit detection and the framerate issues before they start trying to add anything new.
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ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
391
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Posted - 2012.10.21 03:56:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Th3rdSun wrote:Ginxses wrote:allows u to talk with blue dots and communicate with them since many wont be on team chat. from a tactics standpoint it is very imp for that reason alone. Most blue dots don't have mics anyway,so unless the proxy comes out of your TV it has no value. I thought that proxy would be good,but it just breeds way too much animosity in a game that probably won't need it. Like someone else said,if you need to trash talk your enemy,invite them to a separate channel for that. You'd be very surprised how many have mics actually. you don't hear them or come into contact because the comms set up in this game is truly one of the worst I've come across in an FPS. If you or anyone else ever played MAG you would know what excellent comms set up can do for a game. If you haven't, go play it and see for yourself. Then you'll be talking from experience rather than guessing. I played MAG for over two years and you're right,the comms set up was second to none,but this ain't MAG,and while I do feel like Dust should have more structure with the team leaders like MAG does,adding proxy wouldn't do anything to improve the game. One thing that MAG didn't do that Dust does is actually give you the opportunity to communicate with the whole team BEFORE the match even starts.If only people would switch to TEAM CHAT,then many of the complaints about the comms in Dust would be suppressed.I understand proxy for your own team,but it's not necessary with the team chat function. Besides all that,this beta has enough problems as it is,and people want to throw another thing into that mix to do god knows what?Let them fix the hit detection and the framerate issues before they start trying to add anything new.
There are lots of reasons how it would improve the game. FUN being a major one, something sorely lacking in this game. |
Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
323
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Posted - 2012.10.21 06:43:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Th3rdSun wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Th3rdSun wrote:Ginxses wrote:allows u to talk with blue dots and communicate with them since many wont be on team chat. from a tactics standpoint it is very imp for that reason alone. Most blue dots don't have mics anyway,so unless the proxy comes out of your TV it has no value. I thought that proxy would be good,but it just breeds way too much animosity in a game that probably won't need it. Like someone else said,if you need to trash talk your enemy,invite them to a separate channel for that. You'd be very surprised how many have mics actually. you don't hear them or come into contact because the comms set up in this game is truly one of the worst I've come across in an FPS. If you or anyone else ever played MAG you would know what excellent comms set up can do for a game. If you haven't, go play it and see for yourself. Then you'll be talking from experience rather than guessing. I played MAG for over two years and you're right,the comms set up was second to none,but this ain't MAG,and while I do feel like Dust should have more structure with the team leaders like MAG does,adding proxy wouldn't do anything to improve the game. One thing that MAG didn't do that Dust does is actually give you the opportunity to communicate with the whole team BEFORE the match even starts.If only people would switch to TEAM CHAT,then many of the complaints about the comms in Dust would be suppressed.I understand proxy for your own team,but it's not necessary with the team chat function. Besides all that,this beta has enough problems as it is,and people want to throw another thing into that mix to do god knows what?Let them fix the hit detection and the framerate issues before they start trying to add anything new. There are lots of reasons how it would improve the game. FUN being a major one, something sorely lacking in this game.
If it were a "game",it might be more fun,but since it's a BETA,I would say that we are still testing things out to help make it more fun for when it becomes and actual game.
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Jarre Jardox
Cool Story But It Needs More EVE
30
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Posted - 2012.10.21 10:02:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:1. Being able to smack talk your enemy.
2. Listening to all their QQ while they're dead at your feet.
3. You have to be silent when sneaking about, a cough might cost you your life.
4. You can verbally abuse friendly redline snipers.
5. You can tell that bluedot to come join your venture instead of goofing about all the time.
6. We'll eventually get vids of people QQing on proxy.
7. Cross squad communications on the battlefield while being close.
8. It just makes the game alot more fun.
9. ???
10. Profit. Ok lets see points 1,2,4,6,8 can pretty much all be rolled up into one u want to be able to verbally troll ppl in game because u think its fun. 4,5,7 are already in the game get in ur team chat channel and u can see for urself. U have no 9, and 10 doesn't really make sense. 3 defeats the purpose of having a scanner or lowering ur signature profile. Did I miss anything? So wats proxy chat gonna do to help the game? |
Akuma Fumetsu
United Mercenary Assault Force
11
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Posted - 2012.10.21 10:34:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:Akuma Fumetsu wrote: proxy is a good idea for squads would save you having to press a button a close range, but i don't think you should be able to talk to the enemy not really any point, but hearing them talk could be useful. it would have to be a module (audio scanner or something along those lines) for it to work. And you haven't ever played a shooter with proxy chat before?
Socom 3 had proxy chat, and I played that to death |
pew pew youredead
What The French
98
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Posted - 2012.10.21 11:14:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:D'ya know why we played MAG as long as we did, because comms were excellent and proxy was hilarious.
This game is just downright dull. then why don't you just go back to from where you came? if it is so hilarious why is MAG not the game you play? oh yeah, maybe because its dead.... seems like hilarity is not enough to keep it alive. internets space mercs is serious business |
pew pew youredead
What The French
98
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Posted - 2012.10.21 11:20:00 -
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Jarre Jardox wrote:KingBabar wrote:1. Being able to smack talk your enemy.
2. Listening to all their QQ while they're dead at your feet.
3. You have to be silent when sneaking about, a cough might cost you your life.
4. You can verbally abuse friendly redline snipers.
5. You can tell that bluedot to come join your venture instead of goofing about all the time.
6. We'll eventually get vids of people QQing on proxy.
7. Cross squad communications on the battlefield while being close.
8. It just makes the game alot more fun.
9. ???
10. Profit. Ok lets see points 1,2,4,6,8 can pretty much all be rolled up into one u want to be able to verbally troll ppl in game because u think its fun. 4,5,7 are already in the game get in ur team chat channel and u can see for urself. U have no 9, and 10 doesn't really make sense. 3 defeats the purpose of having a scanner or lowering ur signature profile. Did I miss anything? So wats proxy chat gonna do to help the game? i also think its to be able to troll and insult people with bannable offense and getting away with it since unlike text chat your voice isnt recorded... so its just a bunch of little trolls that really want it. Eve has it right with its local channel. and people do get banned for being as.swipes |
Deus Risus
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
19
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Posted - 2012.10.22 02:22:00 -
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Proxy chat would make the game more interesting for sure. It would also be interesting if you there were modules that "encrypted your comms" so the enemy couldn't hear what you're saying. |
Sparten 269
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.22 02:55:00 -
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Ginxses wrote:allows u to talk with blue dots and communicate with them since many wont be on team chat. from a tactics standpoint it is very imp for that reason alone.
If you dont have voice chat on you can't hear anyone, a lot of blues keep it off. |
Jariel Manton
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
210
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Posted - 2012.10.22 15:26:00 -
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Deus Risus wrote:Proxy chat would make the game more interesting for sure. It would also be interesting if you there were modules that "encrypted your comms" so the enemy couldn't hear what you're saying.
Now that seems to embody the type of game that i would expect from CCP |
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