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DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1902
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Posted - 2012.10.16 06:30:00 -
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Please someone tell me that I'm seeing this wrong.
Are those Militia Vehicle Module BPOs that I'm seeing for30 AUR?
The freaking things cost 10-50k ISK each, and you're telling me you get to buy an infinite amount of them for 30 AUR?
Raise the price, or remove the BPOs.
Militia Shield Extender BPC: 450 ISK
Militia Shield Extender BPO: 20 AUR
Militia Heavy Shield Extender BPC: 55,920 ISK
Militia Heavy Shield Extender BPO: 30 AUR
??? |
Vance Alken
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
94
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Posted - 2012.10.16 07:02:00 -
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...militia BPOs?
you're joking, right? |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1902
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Posted - 2012.10.16 07:37:00 -
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Vance Alken wrote:...militia BPOs?
you're joking, right?
For vehicles, no, in fact I'm not. Do you realize how much ISK those damn things cost per use? 30 AUR is NOT an adequate tradoff for infinite runs, what so ever. The major shield mods run around 35 and 55k a piece, while many of the others are 15-18k a piece. The conversions don't stack up at all here. |
Guinevere Bravo
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
140
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Posted - 2012.10.16 07:45:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Are you kitten KIDDING me!?!?!?!
Please someone tell me that I'm seeing this wrong.
Are those Militia Vehicle Module BPOs that I'm seeing for THIRTY AUR!?!?!?
The freaking things cost 10-50k ISK each, and you're telling me you get to buy an infinite amount of them for 30 AUR?
I don't like to be the one to really call this, but I'm gonna call this: Pay to Win, Vehicle Module BPOs. Raise the price, or remove the BPOs. Even if they aren't BPOs, 30 AUR a pop is nothing.
Enjoy the game?
Pay -ú1.50 for 4,000 AUR and buy all the BPO's you tight fisted kitten. |
Jack McReady
A.C.M.E Corp
71
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Posted - 2012.10.16 07:55:00 -
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god forbid that a company wants to make money  |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1902
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Posted - 2012.10.16 07:57:00 -
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Guinevere Bravo wrote:Enjoy the game?
Pay -ú1.50 for 4,000 AUR and buy all the BPO's you tight fisted kitten.
Tight fisted lol, good one. More like open palms.
Even if it was a freaking penny, the point remains that this is a HUGE advantage for the cost, there is nothing that even comes close when it comes to ISK. I've never caused a stink because I've never messed around with militia stuff, but now that I'm finally testing tanks I actually took a closer look and hot damn. A tank with AUR BPOs will run 100-200k cheaper than the same ISK variant, allowing the pilot to call in his (militia) HAV significantly more often than the ISK counterpart, especially considering they'll likely die, being militia fits.
I don't know, I was more or less curious if anyone else noticed. The disparity was just, really obvious >_< |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1902
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Posted - 2012.10.16 08:00:00 -
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Guinevere Bravo wrote:Enjoy the game?
Pay -ú1.50 for 4,000 AUR and buy all the BPO's you tight fisted kitten.
Tight fisted lol, good one. More like open palms.
Even if it was a freaking penny, the point remains that this is a HUGE advantage for the cost, there is nothing that even comes close when it comes to ISK. I've never caused a stink because I've never messed around with militia stuff, but now that I'm finally testing tanks I actually took a closer look and hot damn. A tank with AUR BPOs will run 100-200k cheaper than the same ISK variant, allowing the pilot to call in his (militia) HAV significantly more often than the ISK counterpart, especially considering they'll likely die, being militia fits.
I don't know, I was more or less curious if anyone else noticed. The disparity was just, really obvious >_< [/quote]
Jack McReady wrote:god forbid that a company wants to make money
Aside from Thukker grenades, I've never had a problem with AUR, at all, even skill boosters that are made completely of sex. It's just this specific instance. Why are they so painfully cheap for AUR, if they're so expensive for ISK? Why isn't there some kind of scaling going on here for the cost? Why does a militia dropsuit module that costs 500 ISK a pop cost 30 AUR for a BPO, but a shield module that costs 55,000 ISK a pop, also costs 30 AUR for a BPO.
It just doesn't stack up. |
crazy space
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.10.16 08:13:00 -
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it's just beta pricing, clam down, |
Jack McReady
A.C.M.E Corp
71
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Posted - 2012.10.16 08:24:00 -
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crazy space wrote:it's just beta pricing, clam down,
this. the prices will be adjusted for sure. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.10.16 08:24:00 -
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Oh, that incomplete set of militia bpos?
They don't even have all of the bpos we need. |
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DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1902
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Posted - 2012.10.16 08:26:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:crazy space wrote:it's just beta pricing, clam down, this. the prices will be adjusted for sure.
So long as people are aware, yes. I really need to start putting these in the feedback section, I just keep forgetting >_< |
Lion Redstar
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
66
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Posted - 2012.10.16 08:39:00 -
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Exactly. They are Militia equipment so they are the most basic modules you can find. So no, I don't find them too cheap as long there are better modules in game.
Also the price for regular isk modules are just beta NPC prices, as soon the game will be final and modules will be produced by EVE players, they will change. They might go up but they also might go down. Only time will tell. |
Jet Clone
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.10.16 11:25:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Jack McReady wrote:crazy space wrote:it's just beta pricing, clam down, this. the prices will be adjusted for sure. So long as people are aware, yes. I really need to start putting these in the feedback section, I just keep forgetting >_<
I'm guessing they are cheap so we get them and test them - I'd wait for the game to go live (or be in final pre-live build) before hammering this too much. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.10.16 11:39:00 -
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You still gotta buy the tank and anyways its super weak tbh
Im waiting to see if we will have AUR tanks |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.10.16 11:40:00 -
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OP has a valid point. adressing this issue is good. sure ccp probably knows this, but bringing it up to the front doesn't cause harm. Some scaling definatly needs done. 500 isk 30 aur, 55k isk 30 aur.. who cares its militia and there is better, it still needs to be scaled correctly. that 55k isk module should be more like 250 aur a pop if not more |
Azmode Deamus
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
28
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Posted - 2012.10.16 12:01:00 -
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Oh wow, so someone can actually get somethin useful with AUR and people complain? WHAT is the big deal? I don't exactly understand what your point is. It's freaking militia items...
People need to realize that if AUR isn't worth buying for the majiority of the than this game will fail completely. It's not rocket science. If there is only some value for only a select few people than CCP will not make money and this game will die. In fact, I'd rather see AUR items exactly how they were in the beginning of the last build. They only allowed someone to equip something sooner and or used less PG/CP.
For those who keep QQ about "waaaaah P2W", then get off your lazy ass and get a job. Save pennies... AUR is not expensive. So if you don't feel like supporting the game then don't play it. It's that simple. If I can buy a little AUR here and there off my meager wage then anyone can.
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BLENDEDDAVE
WARRIORS 1NC
52
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Posted - 2012.10.16 12:18:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Please someone tell me that I'm seeing this wrong. Are those Militia Vehicle Module BPOs that I'm seeing for30 AUR? The freaking things cost 10-50k ISK each, and you're telling me you get to buy an infinite amount of them for 30 AUR? I don't like to be the one to really call this, but I'm gonna call this: Pay to Win, Vehicle Module BPOs. Raise the price, or remove the BPOs. Even if they aren't BPOs, 30 AUR a pop is nothing. Militia Shield Extender BPC: 450 ISK Militia Shield Extender BPO: 20 AUR Militia Heavy Shield Extender BPC: 55,920 ISK Militia Heavy Shield Extender BPO: 30 AUR ???
whats up got no aur ??? lmfao
any one remember that game call dust514 it was totally free but it did not last long every time they charged real $$$ for some thinking people started crying about it. ffs |
Reefersmokintaz
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2012.10.16 12:28:00 -
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If this was the launched game, I'd complain about it. But ffs, let CCP test some sh*t out and prices will come to a good medium when the player economy takes over. Hell, prices may skyrocket and will never get a BPO...just sayin |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2012.10.16 12:55:00 -
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You do realize anything militia regardless if it costs aurum is pretty damn weak, right? |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.16 13:56:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Please someone tell me that I'm seeing this wrong. Are those Militia Vehicle Module BPOs that I'm seeing for30 AUR? The freaking things cost 10-50k ISK each, and you're telling me you get to buy an infinite amount of them for 30 AUR? I don't like to be the one to really call this, but I'm gonna call this: Pay to Win, Vehicle Module BPOs. Raise the price, or remove the BPOs. Even if they aren't BPOs, 30 AUR a pop is nothing. Militia Shield Extender BPC: 450 ISK Militia Shield Extender BPO: 20 AUR Militia Heavy Shield Extender BPC: 55,920 ISK Militia Heavy Shield Extender BPO: 30 AUR ???
Even if you buy a militia BPO is just a complete waste without the tank. The tank itself costs 150K ISK. Now are you going to tell me that you will be using a militia build for the rest of dust lifetime or would you get something better? Militia equipment cost a heck of a lot of PG or CPU and provide absolutely no additional benefit.
Who cares even if its BPO? Its useless imho! Just my 0.02 ISK |
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Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
785
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Posted - 2012.10.16 14:20:00 -
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Like said above. Militia modules are crap anyways. Using them on anything more than your starter LAV is a pretty bad idea to begin with,
This is not pay to win. In order for it to be pay to win... The stuff you pay for actually has to be good. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1902
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Posted - 2012.10.16 14:52:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:OP has a valid point. adressing this issue is good. sure ccp probably knows this, but bringing it up to the front doesn't cause harm. Some scaling definatly needs done. 500 isk 30 aur, 55k isk 30 aur.. who cares its militia and there is better, it still needs to be scaled correctly. that 55k isk module should be more like 250 aur a pop if not more
Thank you for actually addressing the issue that I'm addressing >_< |
xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
262
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Posted - 2012.10.16 14:56:00 -
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my militia tanks are less expensive than my dropsuits and they usually last me the entire match. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:42:00 -
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CCP is going the wrong way with their AUR purchases. They're moving more toward stuff affecting the way the game plays while almost entirely neglecting the cosmetic, non-gameplay features other F2P games focus on to make their money. I wish they'd do away with things like militia BPOs for AUR and focus on cosmetic features for people to spend money on. In the meantime they could take the axe to all of the dropsuit BPOs we've acquired from events and stuff and convert them into skins you can apply to purchased dropsuits. |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
673
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:47:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Please someone tell me that I'm seeing this wrong. Are those Militia Vehicle Module BPOs that I'm seeing for30 AUR? The freaking things cost 10-50k ISK each, and you're telling me you get to buy an infinite amount of them for 30 AUR? Raise the price, or remove the BPOs. Militia Shield Extender BPC: 450 ISK Militia Shield Extender BPO: 20 AUR Militia Heavy Shield Extender BPC: 55,920 ISK Militia Heavy Shield Extender BPO: 30 AUR ???
Its a VERY fair tradeoff.
DON'T be one of those who want THIS nerfed too! people are slowly killing this title with all the 'imwasers not happy with this, nerf it!
LEAVE IT ALONE!!!!!!!! |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
673
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:50:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:CCP is going the wrong way with their AUR purchases. They're moving more toward stuff affecting the way the game plays while almost entirely neglecting the cosmetic, non-gameplay features other F2P games focus on to make their money. I wish they'd do away with things like militia BPOs for AUR and focus on cosmetic features for people to spend money on. In the meantime they could take the axe to all of the dropsuit BPOs we've acquired from events and stuff and convert them into skins you can apply to purchased dropsuits.
Eve has BPO items, so why not dust? The two are in the same universe after all.
notice the title when you start the game? 'Eve, dust 514'. |
Whispercrow
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2012.10.16 17:06:00 -
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They'll adjust the prices accordingly for the full game, no doubt.
Assuming, you know, it ever comes out.
I would, however, GREATLY enjoy them 'finishing out' the militia BPO items. It's rather tiresome at the moment to not have them all (Militia Shield Extender for vehicles, for instance, but they DO have the Militia Heavy Shield Extender; and where is my Militia Damage Control Unit?). |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2012.10.16 17:17:00 -
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You do realize that anything militia regardless if it cost aurum is pretty damn weak, right? Yes, I repeated the question. I don't use that aurum militia stuff because I find it better to spend my money on maintaining the universal voice transmitter because at least it serves a useful purpose. Anything militia is crap and not worth the aurum. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.10.16 18:05:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:Eve has BPO items, so why not dust? The two are in the same universe after all.
notice the title when you start the game? 'Eve, dust 514'.
EVE BPOs are not the same thing as Dust BPOs. Just because I have a rifter BPO doesn't mean I get free, infinite rifters. You have no idea what you're talking about, or you're being wilfully ignorant. Either way, what CCP does with its subscription-based MMORPG is completely irrelevant to what they should do with their F2P FPS game. |
Altina McAlterson
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
362
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Posted - 2012.10.16 18:16:00 -
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My forge gun loves people with militia BPO's. The 5th one blows up just as nicely as the first. |
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