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ANONYMOUS KILLERS
Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation
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Posted - 2012.10.11 21:49:00 -
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Another great idea would be to make it harder for a sniper to get easy kills.. what do i mean by this? well one thing is make them pay for their camping sucsess. make a skill for 1.actual scope sight. 2.range of the bullets. 3.accuracy and power of the bullet. why? because its to easy for these guys to sit in a mountain where you cant reach them at all or even climb without getting picked off by another sniper. you cant reach them with an assault rifle or anything but a sniper and if u suck at sniping like me then you pretty much screwed.
so why not make them earn there 20 plus kills by making skills for each advantage the sniper rifle has? the sight of how far they can shoot alone is madly op. A regular starter rifle can shoot across an entire map..
so let me drop an example of what the devs should consider just an idea gentlemen
Skils:
Sniper Scope Range:
Sniper Bullet Drop or Accuracy:
& Sniper rifle Bullet Damage:
or sniper rifle Scope Visibility.
make them earn these kills im sick of getting killed by snipers that camp somewhere unreachable and get easy kills on ppl while in a circle of 5 people im trying to kill. |
F U R
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2012.10.11 21:56:00 -
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Did a sniper upset you? There are skill trees for damage, scope sway, and bullet range. Have you tried sniping? It's an art form, you might like it :D |
MrBo Jangles
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2012.10.11 21:56:00 -
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ANONYMOUS KILLERS wrote:Another great idea would be to make it harder for a sniper to get easy kills.. what do i mean by this? well one thing is make them pay for their camping sucsess. make a skill for 1.actual scope sight. 2.range of the bullets. 3.accuracy and power of the bullet. why? because its to easy for these guys to sit in a mountain where you cant reach them at all or even climb without getting picked off by another sniper. you cant reach them with an assault rifle or anything but a sniper and if u suck at sniping like me then you pretty much screwed.
so why not make them earn there 20 plus kills by making skills for each advantage the sniper rifle has? the sight of how far they can shoot alone is madly op. A regular starter rifle can shoot across an entire map..
so let me drop an example of what the devs should consider just an idea gentlemen
Skils:
Sniper Scope Range:
Sniper Bullet Drop or Accuracy:
& Sniper rifle Bullet Damage:
or sniper rifle Scope Visibility.
make them earn these kills im sick of getting killed by snipers that camp somewhere unreachable and get easy kills on ppl while in a circle of 5 people im trying to kill.
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STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.10.11 21:59:00 -
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F U R wrote:Did a sniper upset you? There are skill trees for damage, scope sway, and bullet range. Have you tried sniping? It's an art form, you might like it :D
Lol at bs of a sniper |
RankRancid
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
51
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Posted - 2012.10.11 22:03:00 -
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ANONYMOUS KILLERS wrote:Another great idea would be to make it harder for a sniper to get easy kills.. what do i mean by this? well one thing is make them pay for their camping sucsess. make a skill for 1.actual scope sight. 2.range of the bullets. 3.accuracy and power of the bullet. why? because its to easy for these guys to sit in a mountain where you cant reach them at all or even climb without getting picked off by another sniper. you cant reach them with an assault rifle or anything but a sniper and if u suck at sniping like me then you pretty much screwed.
so why not make them earn there 20 plus kills by making skills for each advantage the sniper rifle has? the sight of how far they can shoot alone is madly op. A regular starter rifle can shoot across an entire map..
so let me drop an example of what the devs should consider just an idea gentlemen
Skils:
Sniper Scope Range:
Sniper Bullet Drop or Accuracy:
& Sniper rifle Bullet Damage:
or sniper rifle Scope Visibility.
make them earn these kills im sick of getting killed by snipers that camp somewhere unreachable and get easy kills on ppl while in a circle of 5 people im trying to kill.
I'm sorry if i have this confused,it is late and I should be in bed.
You keep saying how easy it is and then say you can't do it? How can you not do something that is easy? Sure CCP will rush this one through in a hot fix tomorrow. With reasoning such as that I mean how could they not.
I do agree though. Its super easy and those snipers make me rage hard! |
F U R
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2012.10.11 22:13:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:F U R wrote:Did a sniper upset you? There are skill trees for damage, scope sway, and bullet range. Have you tried sniping? It's an art form, you might like it :D Lol at bs of a sniper
Trying my sniper charm didn't fool you I see, ah well it was worth a 'shot' |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.10.11 22:19:00 -
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F U R wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:F U R wrote:Did a sniper upset you? There are skill trees for damage, scope sway, and bullet range. Have you tried sniping? It's an art form, you might like it :D Lol at bs of a sniper Trying my sniper charm didn't fool you I see, ah well it was worth a 'shot' More like worth a recoiless spam |
ANONYMOUS KILLERS
Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation
32
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Posted - 2012.10.11 23:01:00 -
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well it seems easy to snipers but lets all be honest here. snipers alone can ruin the art of this game. i think there should be more detail to the sniper because honestly when i down on the battlefield fighting 3 to 4 guys at a time and most people know im good at this it is unfair that while taking out 3 to 4 guys i get 1 shotted by a sniper in an unreachable place..
or in tdm when the entire team is sniping the other half in vehicals running people over.. i dont need to rage most people in this game know my skill and know im a good competiter im just trying to get the odds evened
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Wintars Boar
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
64
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Posted - 2012.10.11 23:08:00 -
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ANONYMOUS KILLERS wrote:well it seems easy to snipers but lets all be honest here. snipers alone can ruin the art of this game. i think there should be more detail to the sniper because honestly when i down on the battlefield fighting 3 to 4 guys at a time and most people know im good at this it is unfair that while taking out 3 to 4 guys i get 1 shotted by a sniper in an unreachable place..
or in tdm when the entire team is sniping the other half in vehicals running people over.. i dont need to rage most people in this game know my skill and know im a good competiter im just trying to get the odds evened
I don't get it. Why can't there be a variety of things you have to watch for? Learn to fight in cover. Watch where the snipers are, or have your squad call out sniper locations, or develop tactics other than Ar vs Ar. Snipers aren't broken and it's a valid tactic, so learn to compensate |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2046
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Posted - 2012.10.11 23:12:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:F U R wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:F U R wrote:Did a sniper upset you? There are skill trees for damage, scope sway, and bullet range. Have you tried sniping? It's an art form, you might like it :D Lol at bs of a sniper Trying my sniper charm didn't fool you I see, ah well it was worth a 'shot' More like worth a recoiless spam This build sniping is pathetically easy.
Return kick and sway in between shots please. |
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ANONYMOUS KILLERS
Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation
32
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Posted - 2012.10.11 23:25:00 -
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Wintars Boar wrote:ANONYMOUS KILLERS wrote:well it seems easy to snipers but lets all be honest here. snipers alone can ruin the art of this game. i think there should be more detail to the sniper because honestly when i down on the battlefield fighting 3 to 4 guys at a time and most people know im good at this it is unfair that while taking out 3 to 4 guys i get 1 shotted by a sniper in an unreachable place..
or in tdm when the entire team is sniping the other half in vehicals running people over.. i dont need to rage most people in this game know my skill and know im a good competiter im just trying to get the odds evened
I don't get it. Why can't there be a variety of things you have to watch for? Learn to fight in cover. Watch where the snipers are, or have your squad call out sniper locations, or develop tactics other than Ar vs Ar. Snipers aren't broken and it's a valid tactic, so learn to compensate
says someone who sits in rocks getting easy kills... Ar vs Ar is a skill unlike sitting in an unreachable spot making a kdr higher then the war points in a game. |
Lusneic
Roid Rage Academy Friends United Seeking Influence and Notoriety
7
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Posted - 2012.10.12 01:29:00 -
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Snipers are here to pick you off one by one from hill tops so my advice is get a millta sniper rifle and shoot them back |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.10.12 01:32:00 -
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So it should be the easiest way to kill? |
Sgt Kirk
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
348
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Posted - 2012.10.12 02:40:00 -
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In all honesty sniping is a hell'uva lot easier in this build. Even I can snipe now and that's a major problem. They need to return the skill required to snipe because now everyone (including me) can snipe with complete ease now. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2282
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Posted - 2012.10.12 03:04:00 -
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ANONYMOUS KILLERS wrote:well it seems easy to snipers but lets all be honest here. snipers alone can ruin the art of this game. i think there should be more detail to the sniper because honestly when i down on the battlefield fighting 3 to 4 guys at a time and most people know im good at this it is unfair that while taking out 3 to 4 guys i get 1 shotted by a sniper in an unreachable place..
or in tdm when the entire team is sniping the other half in vehicals running people over.. i dont need to rage most people in this game know my skill and know im a good competiter im just trying to get the odds evened
snipers are a nuisance at best never been one shot yet tbqh
PS: if ur taking on 3-4 guys chances are ur health would not be full thus sniper can finish u off |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2282
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Posted - 2012.10.12 03:06:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:In all honesty sniping is a hell'uva lot easier in this build. Even I can snipe now and that's a major problem. They need to return the skill required to snipe because now everyone (including me) can snipe with complete ease now.
everything is easier this build strafe got nerfed so aiming in general has been made easier for ppl |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.10.12 03:11:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:In all honesty sniping is a hell'uva lot easier in this build. Even I can snipe now and that's a major problem. They need to return the skill required to snipe because now everyone (including me) can snipe with complete ease now. everything is easier this build strafe got nerfed so aiming in general has been made easier for ppl
Being a heavy isn't easier. |
Sgt Kirk
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
348
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Posted - 2012.10.12 03:56:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:In all honesty sniping is a hell'uva lot easier in this build. Even I can snipe now and that's a major problem. They need to return the skill required to snipe because now everyone (including me) can snipe with complete ease now. everything is easier this build strafe got nerfed so aiming in general has been made easier for ppl Being a heavy isn't easier. I agree, although the heavier needs more strategic movement now and is actually a respectable suit in my opinion. You can't get in the heavy suit with the "I'M AN UNSTOPPABLE TANK ROAR" attitude people have had in the past. If you use it right with a squad you do indeed become "unstoppable" but that solo wing pixy kitten gameplay with the heavy won't work anymore, which is great. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.10.12 04:10:00 -
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Making this stuff skill-related would merely delay the issue. Assuming there is indeed an issue here.
Also, dropships are very powerful at taking out snipers. |
Daddrobit
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
277
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Posted - 2012.10.12 05:48:00 -
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As someone who generally enjoys sniping, I would have to say that CCP definitely need to return the sniper sway back as it is just too easy to line up a chest shot and double tap my way to victory. Also needs to have some sway even when crouched, cause this 100% steadiness is just not conducive to good game play. Sure, it's fun to get all these nearly free kills, but even I gotta say it's just too easy.
But your suggestions are just bad.
Increase the sway, and return the between shot sway, and we'll be good. Don't make it any more complicated than we need too. |
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RankRancid
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
51
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Posted - 2012.10.12 08:19:00 -
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So what you guys suggesting here? Keep the damage of this build that head shots are still important and have the sway from 3 builds ago?
I can live with that and I would agree with that 100% |
Jack McReady
A.C.M.E Corp
71
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Posted - 2012.10.12 08:43:00 -
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I would like the old sway back, thus less people in my team are ****** snipers... I like challenge but playing alone vs enemy team, just because your teammates decided it is a good idea to scatter around the map and camp on some hills, is really frustrating. |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2012.10.12 08:50:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:I would like the old sway back, thus less people in my team are ****** snipers... I like challenge but playing alone vs enemy team, just because your teammates decided it is a good idea to scatter around the map and camp on some hills, is really frustrating. shame that it is the only thing the scout suit is suitable for. being up close in medium range for anything will just get you killed. there are way too many snipers this build too. playing hunt the sniper and see 3-4 guys in the hills shouldn't happen every game. |
Carl Hauser
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
46
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:49:00 -
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I agree there need to be scopesway when crouched it. By this sniping become more difficult but more satisfiying as well and of course the base sniper skill becomes usefull at all. |
Ridgeway Semper Fi
ROGUE SPADES
30
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Posted - 2012.10.12 13:45:00 -
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Yay another post about how ARs should be the only weapon in the game. Why don't you people just come out and say it. Say "I fail at doing anything other than spraying a wall of bullets at my target and I get destroyed by someone who takes their time and makes a well placed shot. Also, Im not intelligent enough to figure out another way to get to the sniper and kill him, so Ill just come on the forums and get the class nerfed, because I don't want to do anything other than spray and pray."
If you just type that in we'll all understand, and you'll feel better cause you're telling the truth. |
The Goram Batman
Forgotten Militia
12
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Posted - 2012.10.12 19:56:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:As someone who generally enjoys sniping, I would have to say that CCP definitely need to return the sniper sway back as it is just too easy to line up a chest shot and double tap my way to victory. Also needs to have some sway even when crouched, cause this 100% steadiness is just not conducive to good game play. Sure, it's fun to get all these nearly free kills, but even I gotta say it's just too easy.
But your suggestions are just bad.
Increase the sway, and return the between shot sway, and we'll be good. Don't make it any more complicated than we need too. I myself tend to play as a sniper, and I couldn't agree more. Sure the 100% steadiness is nice, but unless you're using a support or a bipod or something, there's no way in hell you can get a perfectly steady scope.
Also, the sway between shots needs to come back. |
xSniper1982
We Are Ready
12
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Posted - 2012.10.12 20:16:00 -
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I have been teamed with Anonymous Killers... He's a very respectable player.
I play mainly as a sniper, i have in every fps i've ever been on. It is my preferred choice of gameplay/fighting style.
I agree with adding the sway between shots, and to the crouch, but if they are going to do this, then they need to add in a hold breath action, or a steady weapon action to compensate for it.
No sniper would honestly be trying to line up shots that far without using the terrain or a limb or something to rest the weapon on and remove the sway.
Also i believe the rifles should be given a larger zoom, this will make it more difficult to track closer targets and easier to track the more distant ones (ie. enemy snipers)
I think this would add the balance back to the class, and remove some of the less skilled/patient players from sniping and put them back into the fight with the rest of the team.
what do you lot think? |
ANONYMOUS KILLERS
Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation
32
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Posted - 2012.10.12 23:20:00 -
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yea dropships are good at taking out snipers but not everyone owns a dropship. 2. not deleaying the issue having to put skill into the sniper is a great idea considering its not making it easy to be a good sniper..
snipers will disagree because everyone who finds an easy way to make a good kdr or easy way to get kills will disagree. but all in all its very unfair the sniping on this game weather you like to admit it or not.
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Sgt Kirk
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
348
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Posted - 2012.10.14 16:04:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Making this stuff skill-related would merely delay the issue. Assuming there is indeed an issue here.
Also, dropships are very powerful at taking out snipers. Skill as in ability, not SP |
Altina McAlterson
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
362
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Posted - 2012.10.14 16:32:00 -
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I'm just gonna go ahead and say that this kind of stuff is what's going to destroy this game. Increase the skills reaquired to snipe, add sway to crouching, increase the recoil after a shot, etc... No, that's a bad idea. What CCP needs to do is fix this crap with snipers being behind cover where you can't shoot them but they can shoot you. That's it, nothing more. They fix that and then we see where we are. What in the holy hell is going on around here? All I see is "nerf this, nerf that" and almost no threads about "Hey, this needs a boost". Holy crap, the only threads about something needing a boost is because everybody cried like a little girl and got it nerfed and now whatever it is sucks.
Here's what happens when I play DUST. I log in, get in to a battle and then I try to kill you. I try to kill you over and over over. I will try to kill you until you throw the controller through the TV and call the cat a bitchass *****. Just because I succeed does not mean something needs a nerf. Damnit...there has really been some OP stuff but has anybody stopped to think and realize that CCP has nerfed almost every single thing in this game. Eventually we're going to be running around trying to kill each other with nothing but harsh language.
Right now there is one single problem with snipers, and that is the glitchy cover BS. I can't even snipe them with a perfect shot lined up, or they're actually behind the cover and I have no shot at all and yet they kill me. Get that fixed and then come back and talk to me about snipers needing a nerf. We're only playing on what, 3 maps right now? Don't you think there's going to be some that are great for sniping and some that are total crap? We're gonna get this game nerfed in to Cow Clicker if we don't watch out.
You dying is not a game issue, it's just you. Because I'm trying to kill you. TO KILL YOU. And yet you get mad when you die? Guess what, I die constantly. I don't have some insane KDR. Some matches I go 3/7. This is a game, which means someone has to win by someone else losing. There are some valid points in this thread, but I'm getting tired ot all this nerf crap and this thread gets my rant, deal with it.
TL:DR - Read it or STFU. |
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