Time for reality. You haven't been in dozens of betas. Anyone who says that in first post is a bull shi**er. Also, this is one of the only real betas there has been on PS3. Nice troll thread, and it's ironic how you say "Sorry, kids" when most of the people here are over 20. Trust me, I've micced with them, I would know.

Trust me, I've micced with them, I would know.

That's not saying much. You'd mic anything with a voice

Well, tbqh, this is the reason Betamax don't appeal to me. Some guy says Dust won't change much. You have to throw a wobbly

He's right. Tbqh all I'm hoping for is crater lake, my strafe speed back to precursor speeds, and an end to the darn frame rate issues. Maybe some fun toys every few months. I like the game. I hope it doesn't change too much.
Oh, PvE & higher player count too. Those are pretty essential.

Amazing idea - too bad the devs didn't get more experience with FPS's before trying to make the most revolutionary one in existence.

That's all I'm gonna say.

"It's just a beta hurp, derp, derp!"

I've been in over a dozen betas. Time for some reality: It is not going to change that much. Sorry, kids.

Last time I checked with CCP, they said that DUST will be iterated on for the rest of its operational life even after launch. Look at Eve as an example.

Last time I checked with CCP, they said that DUST will be iterated on for the rest of its operational life even after launch. Look at Eve as an example.

Have fun with whatever cookie cutter FPS you decide to play, we'll be holding down planets from interstellar invasion while you're busy respawning like a tool.

This is a cookie cutter fps.

The only thing different is the mmo aspects. Having fun holding down planets on a campy cookie cutter CoD clone with dropships.

You're such a tool ^_^

Please, keep posting, it's highly entertaining to those of us with functioning brains

[quote=DUST Fiend]Have fun with whatever cookie cutter FPS you decide to play, we'll be holding down planets from interstellar invasion while you're busy respawning like a tool.

This is a cookie cutter fps.

The only thing different is the mmo aspects. Having fun holding down planets on a campy cookie cutter CoD clone with dropships.

actaully agree with this and its turning more cookie cutter at every hotfix, it started last build when they caved into the whining in IRC for more isk gains.

Have fun with whatever cookie cutter FPS you decide to play, we'll be holding down planets from interstellar invasion while you're busy respawning like a tool.

This is not a beta, it is an alpha.

And it's a good thing. Judge it all you want, but this is not the final game. I still have high hopes (even if I currently don't enjoy playing it as much as the previous builds).

This is not a beta, it is an alpha.

And it's a good thing. Judge it all you want, but this is not the final game. I still have high hopes (even if I currently don't enjoy playing it as much as the previous builds).

For the game's sake let us hope it is an alpha we're playing! If not... then this is the worst beta in gaming history!

This game seriously might be the epitome of a cookie cutter shooter.

Terrible gunplay
terrible respawn mechanics
lol dropships
lol no recoil standard AR
lol 4 man parties
lol large maps with small player counts
terrible movement mechanics
lol snipers

The camping in this game is ridiculous. I'd much rather play COD and at the very least enjoy myself.

Easiest solution to this terrible, cookie cutter, CoD clone, LOL of a BETA is stop playing it and stop complaining on the forum! [/s Also, CCP, plz take Dust off the PS3 as Sony and MOST the community are not ready for this type of game and put it on the PC as its WAY superior! /s]

"You cant fix stupid...." -Ron White

The forums are for FEEDBACK and discussion on how to improve the game. Just because folks don't like this terrible build, it doesn't mean we aren't still hoping we can contribute to fixing the problems.

Also, I love the irony of quoting a low brow, **** joke, redneck comedian in an attempt to belittle other people's intelligence. The system wars PC master race nonsense is just the icing on the cake.

Lastly, what makes you think we are actively playing this build?

The forums are for FEEDBACK and discussion on how to improve the game. Just because folks don't like this terrible build, it doesn't mean we aren't still hoping we can contribute to fixing the problems.

Also, I love the irony of quoting a low brow, **** joke, redneck comedian in an attempt to belittle other people's intelligence. The system wars PC master race nonsense is just the icing on the cake.

Lastly, what makes you think we are actively playing this build?

I've been in over a dozen betas. Time for some reality: It is not going to change that much. Sorry, kids.

Time for reality. You haven't been in dozens of betas. Anyone who says that in first post is a bull shi**er. Also, this is one of the only real betas there has been on PS3. Nice troll thread, and it's ironic how you say "Sorry, kids" when most of the people here are over 20. Trust me, I've micced with them, I would know.

Time for reality. You haven't been in dozens of betas. Anyone who says that in first post is a bull shi**er. Also, this is one of the only real betas there has been on PS3. Nice troll thread, and it's ironic how you say "Sorry, kids" when most of the people here are over 20. Trust me, I've micced with them, I would know.

Time for reality. You haven't been in dozens of betas. Anyone who says that in first post is a bull shi**er. Also, this is one of the only real betas there has been on PS3. Nice troll thread, and it's ironic how you say "Sorry, kids" when most of the people here are over 20. Trust me, I've micced with them, I would know.

I have been part of numerous 'betas' on PS3. & all of them except D514, have been nothing more than glorified demos designed to promote their game & stress test the server. D514 has been in beta for close to a year. If D514 were a $60 BD on the shelf, then feel free to compare it. But D514 has no contemporaries on consoles, so any comparison is simply ridiculous.

Well, tbqh, this is the reason Betamax don't appeal to me. Some guy says Dust won't change much. You have to throw a wobbly

He's right. Tbqh all I'm hoping for is crater lake, my strafe speed back to precursor speeds, and an end to the darn frame rate issues. Maybe some fun toys every few months. I like the game. I hope it doesn't change too much.
Oh, PvE & higher player count too. Those are pretty essential.

Better or not is a strictly subjective thing. You have the CoD twitch kill fanboys wanting CCP to make Dust a sci-fi clone of their fave game. Other's of us want a deep tactical game where it takes more than one or two bullets to the shin or a knife in the heel (I've been killed both ways on CoD 4) to take down a target.

I, for one, am enjoying the deeper "adapt or die" gameplay where no one set up is the be all end all. Yes it still needs a bit of work but if I want to bunny hop and dance and twitch kill my target, if they don't twitch kill me first, I'll go play CoD 4 instead of crying that CCP should make Dust 514 into CoD: Dust.

I point CoD fanboys out because I see "be/not like CoD" implication posts the most.

sorry dude, but straffing ain't related to cod at all. Otherwise, cod wouldnt have that much fan as it would actually need skills to make a frag.

Yeah, this guy doesn't understand that CoD is not a twitch shooter. When we say that they we higher strafe speed its because we really don't want this game to be another CoD. For some reason people think the opposite.For the most part CoD takes very little skill just like this game. That's what we are trying to avoid by raising the strafe speed.

It just goes that show that a lot of people on this forum have no idea what they are talking about. ccp shouldn't have invited so many scrubs in this beta.

While CoD might have a little faster strafe speed then dust. It is not that much faster. Not when compared to actual twitch shooters.

It's a CoD/BF clone now. Go cry in a corner Shijima.

Say what ever you want. Its the truth.

This is not a beta, it is an alpha.

And it's a good thing. Judge it all you want, but this is not the final game. I still have high hopes (even if I currently don't enjoy playing it as much as the previous builds).

As somebody who works in the industry as a game designer, I'd have to say I agree with some of these criticisms. The game has promise and shows a ton of great effort. BUT I feel there are some major missteps that need addressing before it goes live.

A quick list of some of them:

• the marketplace and skilltree need simplification ASAP. It is way way out of control. For example, you must buy a skillbook to purchase a skill (and the green checkmark book icon doesn't mean you have that book -- it means you can BUY that book. Ugh). Why frustrate and complicate matters? Toss the skillbooks ASAP and allow any player to buy any skill. If DUST really wants a flexible build-your-own playstyle, it should make that easy, not bothersome.
• If I can't use or buy something, give me an option to buy that something. Or at least tell me what I'm lacking. Is that too much to ask?
• the default player is badly nerfed which makes the initial player experience quite frustrating. As soon as I bought a few basic skills, I became somewhat competitive. Most newbs will dump the game instead.
• the marketplace is too slow and the matches are too short.
• cooperative gameplay should be simple and easy -- see Syndicate.
• player skins and models should be more distinctive, letting you tell role and team at a glance.
• default shield levels are too low -- the average lifespan is too short. Give the player a chance to get a rhythm before he dies.
• environments are generic and the generous sightlines encourage sniping. Foliage and fog might help.
• I'm new but I've yet to see a 100% interior level. Interior levels force close-range encounters.

You should really go play Eve. Dust is intended to be an extension of Eve. Get familiar with Eve and you'll understand Dust. Either that or learn to play in our universe.