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Sir Petersen Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 112	Posted - 2012.10.06 09:06:00 - [1] - Quote What is this world coming to? Why would anyone do this. Are we talking about daddy-¦s wallet here or? What-¦s going on?
HK-40 120	Posted - 2012.10.06 09:09:00 - [2] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: What is this world coming to? Why would anyone do this. Are we talking about daddy-¦s wallet here or? What-¦s going on? Possible answers: * To get access to the beta * Having a job
Ter Ateb Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 18	Posted - 2012.10.06 09:11:00 - [3] - Quote I did all my chores.
Sir Shoot-a-lot Algintal Core Gallente Federation 18	Posted - 2012.10.06 09:12:00 - [4] - Quote * Having a job for me :) plus * Helping the devs; i find it like a kickstarter, you migth have done a great investment, or given up some free money for nothing lol
Villore Isu Algintal Core Gallente Federation 115	Posted - 2012.10.06 09:16:00 - [5] - Quote Think of it as a booster pack for when the game is released, that also happens to get you into the beta.
Sir Petersen Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 112	Posted - 2012.10.06 09:17:00 - [6] - Quote HK-40 wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: What is this world coming to? Why would anyone do this. Are we talking about daddy-¦s wallet here or? What-¦s going on? Possible answers: * To get access to the beta * Having a job I got access to my beta for free. But why on earth do you guys pay for equipment that you as beta testers should be getting gratis? I don-¦t get this.. Please explain.
Grit Breather BetaMax. 660	Posted - 2012.10.06 09:20:00 - [7] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: HK-40 wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: What is this world coming to? Why would anyone do this. Are we talking about daddy-¦s wallet here or? What-¦s going on? Possible answers: * To get access to the beta * Having a job I got access to my beta for free. But why on earth do you guys pay for equipment that you as beta testers should be getting gratis? I don-¦t get this.. Please explain. It would really be nice if you actually paid attention to what's going on around you. People aren't spending real money on the beta, they're spending it on the finished product. Any money AUR bought/used during the beta is refunded after every reset and will be refunded for release. Part of the beta test is examining the balance of AUR prices. Buying is being testes too.
HK-40 120	Posted - 2012.10.06 09:21:00 - [8] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: HK-40 wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: What is this world coming to? Why would anyone do this. Are we talking about daddy-¦s wallet here or? What-¦s going on? Possible answers: * To get access to the beta * Having a job I got access to my beta for free. But why on earth do you guys pay for equipment that you as beta testers should be getting gratis? I don-¦t get this.. Please explain. I can feel that the entitlement is strong in you, young one. Actually I understand what you mean about 'should be gratis for testing'. Personally I wouldn't have purchased items/AUR if it wasn't for the access that came with it. However I will admit that the Dragonfly suit et al, are actually quite nice. The AUR will also be quite handy come final release, and that is the key, come final release CCP owes us nothing. I'm not a fan of pay to win by a very long shot (had a small part in the EVE 'monacle riots' in fact), so this is as far as I believe it should be taken, as an aside.
Shane Darko ZionTCD Legacy Rising 11	Posted - 2012.10.06 09:23:00 - [9] - Quote As someone just mention,every wipe we get it back anyway,so its not like were losing it forever with each wipe,when the game if fully out,then it can be lost forever. With the merc pack items being yours again at launch as well. So spending money in the beta is pretty much investing/buying and testing gear and or exc. So pretty much a booster pack.
Gcember Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 123	Posted - 2012.10.06 09:23:00 - [10] - Quote Like this: This game is second generation. To make progress you need money, they have offered deals how to get in the beta by paying, but the majority of players how got into the beta got it for free. I say that if you have payed for getting into the beta, or payed for equipment, look at it this way: You have contributed to a huge step in gaming.

Madison Four 57	Posted - 2012.10.06 09:24:00 - [11] - Quote I bought the Merc Pack in order to get into the beta. I say this with no shame. I've been looking forward to this game since it was announced, and its the reason I bought a PS3 instead of a xbox360.
Sir Petersen Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 112	Posted - 2012.10.06 09:25:00 - [12] - Quote Grit Breather wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: HK-40 wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: What is this world coming to? Why would anyone do this. Are we talking about daddy-¦s wallet here or? What-¦s going on? Possible answers: * To get access to the beta * Having a job I got access to my beta for free. But why on earth do you guys pay for equipment that you as beta testers should be getting gratis? I don-¦t get this.. Please explain. It would really be nice if you actually paid attention to what's going on around you. People aren't spending real money on the beta, they're spending it on the finished product. Any money AUR bought/used during the beta is refunded after every reset and will be refunded for release. Part of the beta test is examining the balance of AUR prices. Buying is being testes too. Oh I-¦m paying attention kid. So you send your money to CCP so they can fill they-¦re bank account while you play the beta. And the reward? You get the stuff you already paid for once the game is out... lol GENIUS CCP! This is the way to fly! Get the gamers on the hook and then take they-¦re cash while beta testing. Brilliant!!
Sir Petersen Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 112	Posted - 2012.10.06 09:27:00 - [13] - Quote And if we don-¦t have AUR we can turn to something else because the ISK reward is a joke at the moment. So either we pay cash or stop playing... Awesome
HK-40 120	Posted - 2012.10.06 09:29:00 - [14] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: And if we don-¦t have AUR we can turn to something else because the ISK reward is a joke at the moment. So either we pay cash or stop playing... Awesome So in actuality you didn't really want to know why we/people had purchased Merc Packs, and this was just you looking for an opportunity to flame as you are feeling a little miffed that the game isn't what you personally feel it should be? Well done I guess
Sir Petersen Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 112	Posted - 2012.10.06 09:36:00 - [15] - Quote HK-40 wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: And if we don-¦t have AUR we can turn to something else because the ISK reward is a joke at the moment. So either we pay cash or stop playing... Awesome So in actuality you didn't really want to know why we/people had purchased Merc Packs, and this was just you looking for an opportunity to flame as you are feeling a little miffed that the game isn't what you personally feel it should be? Well done I guess I still want to know because I-¦m finding this really hard to understand. I join a team of beta testers but when it comes down to it I have to pay real money to be able to play this game propper. Pretty sad if you ask me. So I-¦m guessing most of you guys are using daddy-¦s wallet for this? Who in they-¦re right mind would throw they-¦re money away like this anyway? Why are you taking part in this nonsense?
HK-40 120	Posted - 2012.10.06 09:42:00 - [16] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: HK-40 wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: And if we don-¦t have AUR we can turn to something else because the ISK reward is a joke at the moment. So either we pay cash or stop playing... Awesome So in actuality you didn't really want to know why we/people had purchased Merc Packs, and this was just you looking for an opportunity to flame as you are feeling a little miffed that the game isn't what you personally feel it should be? Well done I guess I still want to know because I-¦m finding this really hard to understand. I join a team of beta testers but when it comes down to it I have to pay real money to be able to play this game propper. Pretty sad if you ask me. So I-¦m guessing most of you guys are using daddy-¦s wallet for this? Who in they-¦re right mind would throw they-¦re money away like this anyway? Why are you taking part in this nonsense? Daddy's money belongs to Daddy, and he can spend it as he wishes. My money belongs to me and I felt the need to buy a Merc Pack. The reasons I have already explained. How does that sound? You are obviously upset over the isk issue however providing feedback in the feedback section is how its done, not some pseudo flame thread. Your turn.
Madison Four 57	Posted - 2012.10.06 09:59:00 - [17] - Quote HK-40 wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: HK-40 wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: And if we don-¦t have AUR we can turn to something else because the ISK reward is a joke at the moment. So either we pay cash or stop playing... Awesome So in actuality you didn't really want to know why we/people had purchased Merc Packs, and this was just you looking for an opportunity to flame as you are feeling a little miffed that the game isn't what you personally feel it should be? Well done I guess I still want to know because I-¦m finding this really hard to understand. I join a team of beta testers but when it comes down to it I have to pay real money to be able to play this game propper. Pretty sad if you ask me. So I-¦m guessing most of you guys are using daddy-¦s wallet for this? Who in they-¦re right mind would throw they-¦re money away like this anyway? Why are you taking part in this nonsense? Daddy's money belongs to Daddy, and he can spend it as he wishes. My money belongs to me and I felt the need to buy a Merc Pack. The reasons I have already explained. How does that sound? You are obviously upset over the isk issue however providing feedback in the feedback section is how its done, not some pseudo flame thread. Your turn. exactly. this silly thread has pretty much run its course.
RankRancid Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 51	Posted - 2012.10.06 10:48:00 - [18] - Quote I am not poor and work. I like spending money on my hobbies and myself. You should give it a go. That isk problem you have would go away. 3.5 mil isk and nothing to spend it on. Aur + pay to win = Happy Now the question. Why would you not?
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 437	Posted - 2012.10.06 11:05:00 - [19] - Quote Had access and ran cheap fits for the first few months on a gratis beta, bought the three bonus suit merc pack cause it's cheap, and will buy the Japanese merc pack too if it contains something awesome.
Reefersmokintaz Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 34	Posted - 2012.10.06 11:21:00 - [20] - Quote No money spent on the beta here, Whiners will be whiners.....

Zorasth Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.10.06 12:13:00 - [21] - Quote Sir Shoot-a-lot wrote: * Having a job for me :) plus * Helping the devs; i find it like a kickstarter, you migth have done a great investment, or given up some free money for nothing lol Ever heard of a kickstarter cashing in after they have your money and restarting a new kickstarter the next day offering better rewards? I thought so.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.10.06 14:17:00 - [22] - Quote There's people who've spent -ú100 on AUR. Tbh, I hope the **** you with the final value of AUR. And you have NO comeback. Because you bought it before they established a value. I paid -ú1.59 So I can talk to people for years.
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.10.06 14:22:00 - [23] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: There's people who've spent -ú100 on AUR. Tbh, I hope the **** you with the final value of AUR. And you have NO comeback. Because you bought it before they established a value. I paid -ú1.59 So I can talk to people for years. The UVT is only 10 AUR at the moment, they used to mirror the cost of the Skill booster if I recall. That is 7k per week (with the new value). I am very much afraid they will be that expensive again, once DUST goes live.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.10.06 14:25:00 - [24] - Quote That'll be reason enough to buy a laptop and planetside 2 then. They need to be really cheap. So EVERYONE buys them. Otherwise they're useless.
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.10.06 14:34:00 - [25] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: That'll be reason enough to buy a laptop and planetside 2 then. They need to be really cheap. So EVERYONE buys them. Otherwise they're useless. The CCP excuse the cost by having to provide server bandwidth for chat, and compare themselves to Teamspeak. The problem for them in this is twofold. One, DUST voice SUCKS. It is unreliable and of poor quality. Two, On Ventrillo and Teamspeak only the owner of a channel/server pays a fee, though the fee increases in steps in they need more slots. And in Teamspeak you can run your own server if you want to. Here they want everyone to pay a not insubstantial fee to get a channel.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.10.06 14:37:00 - [26] - Quote Let's just agree that UVT need to be cheap enough that EVERYONE will have them. They're only useful if EVERYONE has one.
Brahma El Indio Bragian Order Amarr Empire 171	Posted - 2012.10.06 14:48:00 - [27] - Quote My personal situation - Bought two merc packs - about sixty bucks in australia Bought 50000 aurum, another 30 bucks Bought planetside 2 alpha pack - 40 bucks Sponsored Ouya on kickstarter - 150 bucks Saw a stack of psn cards less than half price bought ton of wallet cash - 125 And thats about it in terms of games entertainment spend so far this year... Then, system enhancements this year... Both ps3 upgraded to ssd - 200 bucks Px21 headphones - 70 bucks Razer hydra for pc - 120 bucks Still under a grand. Hmm where i live, a grand would get you maybe 2 or 3 good nights in the city partying if i was into that sort of thing. Why do i spend on games, entertainment? Job. Healthy lifestyle - no fast food, gambling, drinking in bars etc. Spend most time at home, work from home, play a small number of games for long periods. Look at two particular games, dust and planetside, as potentially being played for next few years. So bit of support for developers plus advance payment yielding benefits is justified in my book.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.10.06 15:03:00 - [28] - Quote Have you managed to run out of AUR in any build?
Brahma El Indio Bragian Order Amarr Empire 171	Posted - 2012.10.06 15:08:00 - [29] - Quote Nah I get bored of each build before I even start to get low......I've always got plenty left when they wipe and then its all reset anyway, and I use AUR gear too.... Once the game gets better and becomes a long term daily grind, things might change....that's why I snapped up plenty of 50 dollar psn cards at half price.... For me, gaming is cheap entertainment without "social complications"
Illuminaughty-696 Omega Risk Control Services 202	Posted - 2012.10.06 15:13:00 - [30] - Quote -Access to beta -Because it's worth it. -Because it's worth it, for realz. Seriously, if you play this game more than ten hours a week most every week, like I do, then $19.99 is worth it. I've played, and enjoyed (almost always enjoyed) the beta. I've put more enjoyable hours into this beta than some games I payed $60 for (and felt I got my money's worth then). Further, the for realz, is because the $19.99 I spent gets me phat lootz that carry over into the real game and could be argued to be worth it on that reasoning alone. So, there you have it.

Brahma El Indio Bragian Order Amarr Empire 171	Posted - 2012.10.06 15:16:00 - [31] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: That'll be reason enough to buy a laptop and planetside 2 then. Mate three faction battles at The Crown, that last for hours, that have no timer or rounds, that have aircraft, armor, infantry, anti-air, emplaced turrets, APC's - THAT is WHY you buy the laptop mate I swear, I've been playing fps since WolfenStein 3d and Planetside2 is as a paradigm shift in terms of today's gaming experience, just as wolfenstein 3d was back then....
Ten-Sidhe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 414	Posted - 2012.10.06 15:16:00 - [32] - Quote I have 145,000aur(merc pack, $10 aur before multiple merc packs, 2 packs with tribute suits), spent less then a thousand. Using non isk gear, at 1.2mil isk and rising. I spent $70 total on dust, $80 on borderlands(soon to be $110 with season pass), I have spent more hours playing dust, so I say it was a better deal. Most voice chat doesn't need a uvt. Corp, local, and other out of battle channels are better as text since it is easier to tell who is speaking. Corp purchased uvt is a good idea though, a uvt with x slots like the teamspeak server. Bugs in voice should be fixed.
Eskel Bondfree DUST University Ivy League 76	Posted - 2012.10.06 15:36:00 - [33] - Quote Buying a merc pack is like preordering a game, only much cheaper and with the difference that you actually get a lot of free stuff in adition to the game itself (in the case of Dust, this is the Aurum). There are people who plan to play this game frequently and for a long time after it has been released, people who don't have a problem with paying for this game just like they do for every other game they play. Buying a merc pack makes perfect sense if you are one of those people.
tribal wyvern ZionTCD Legacy Rising 673	Posted - 2012.10.06 15:48:00 - [34] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: Grit Breather wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: HK-40 wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: What is this world coming to? Why would anyone do this. Are we talking about daddy-¦s wallet here or? What-¦s going on? Possible answers: * To get access to the beta * Having a job I got access to my beta for free. But why on earth do you guys pay for equipment that you as beta testers should be getting gratis? I don-¦t get this.. Please explain. It would really be nice if you actually paid attention to what's going on around you. People aren't spending real money on the beta, they're spending it on the finished product. Any money AUR bought/used during the beta is refunded after every reset and will be refunded for release. Part of the beta test is examining the balance of AUR prices. Buying is being testes too. Oh I-¦m paying attention kid. So you send your money to CCP so they can fill they-¦re bank account while you play the beta. And the reward? You get the stuff you already paid for once the game is out... lol GENIUS CCP! This is the way to fly! Get the gamers on the hook and then take they-¦re cash while beta testing. Brilliant!! You're calling grit breather a 'kid' when you don't even know basic grammar? I can't even fully read your posts they are that painful. "Their" and "they're" have two different meanings buddy, learn how to use your words properly before posting and making yourself look like a basement dweller high school kid.
miahus CrimeWave Syndicate 78	Posted - 2012.10.06 16:24:00 - [35] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: What is this world coming to? Why would anyone do this. Are we talking about daddy-¦s wallet here or? What-¦s going on? it is only 20 dollars that you don't have to spend if you have a beta code. I bought more than a merc pack, the first to get into the beta, the rest I see them as a donation to CCP and their amazing ground breaking project.
Madison Four 57	Posted - 2012.10.06 16:34:00 - [36] - Quote Brahma El Indio wrote: Tony Calif wrote: That'll be reason enough to buy a laptop and planetside 2 then. Mate three faction battles at The Crown, that last for hours, that have no timer or rounds, that have aircraft, armor, infantry, anti-air, emplaced turrets, APC's - THAT is WHY you buy the laptop mate I swear, I've been playing fps since WolfenStein 3d and Planetside2 is as a paradigm shift in terms of today's gaming experience, just as wolfenstein 3d was back then.... the original Planetside was 10 years before its time. Planetside 2 is just Planetside 1 with better graphics. and I don't mean that as an insult.
Madison Four 57	Posted - 2012.10.06 16:35:00 - [37] - Quote Eskel Bondfree wrote: [Buying a merc pack is like preordering a game, only much cheaper and with the difference that you actually get a lot of free stuff in adition to the game itself (in the case of Dust, this is the Aurum). There are people who plan to play this game frequently and for a long time after it has been released, people who don't have a problem with paying for this game just like they do for every other game they play. Buying a merc pack makes perfect sense if you are one of those people. right on the money.
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2012.10.16 14:37:00 - [38] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: What is this world coming to? Why would anyone do this. Are we talking about daddy-¦s wallet here or? What-¦s going on? Gaming is a multi billion dollar industry. If you have an iphone or an android and play any games like Warring States or King Empire, you will find people spending 100s of dollars every month. Most of these players are adults and generally use these games as entertainment or downtimes. They dont care how much they spend. I myself have already spent $80 on this beta so far. And I dont mind buying the merc pack every month just for getting the Aurum and 30 day booster. Now I wont say it doesnt give me a slight advantage over the no aurum users. It just helps me skill faster. But with all things Dust, eventually you do reach a saturation point and your skills will get maxed out. At the point in time game tactics will come into play rather than skills. Aur does give you a slight advantage and any skilled user will use that to his or her advantage. But in the end it will not ensure you a win. I dont know anyone over here who hasnt lost a match yet!
4447 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 649	Posted - 2012.10.16 15:27:00 - [39] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: What is this world coming to? Why would anyone do this. Are we talking about daddy-¦s wallet here or? What-¦s going on? I understand that you can't see why everything isn't free in a beta, but because it's a free to play and CCP has to find funds to fund it they used the merc pack as a incentive for us to play the beta. So if what i'm saying is right then the building of the game has become a little bit less money because of the people who brought the merc pack. Again if i'm right then CCP can use the spare money to improve the game or keep the money so it cut the costs of production.
lordjanuz Norwegian Dust514 Corporation 88	Posted - 2012.10.16 16:43:00 - [40] - Quote Madison Four wrote: Eskel Bondfree wrote: [Buying a merc pack is like preordering a game, only much cheaper and with the difference that you actually get a lot of free stuff in adition to the game itself (in the case of Dust, this is the Aurum). There are people who plan to play this game frequently and for a long time after it has been released, people who don't have a problem with paying for this game just like they do for every other game they play. Buying a merc pack makes perfect sense if you are one of those people. right on the money. Right on

Vrain Matari ZionTCD Legacy Rising 404	Posted - 2012.10.16 16:47:00 - [41] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: What is this world coming to? Why would anyone do this. Are we talking about daddy-¦s wallet here or? What-¦s going on? What are we talking about here? The price of a large pizza? Pretty good entertainment value per dollar, I'd say.
Knightshade Belladonna Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 288	Posted - 2012.10.16 17:00:00 - [42] - Quote Gcember wrote: Like this: This game is second generation. To make progress you need money, they have offered deals how to get in the beta by paying, but the majority of players how got into the beta got it for free. I say that if you have payed for getting into the beta, or payed for equipment, look at it this way: You have contributed to a huge step in gaming. cash has been flowing in for years for development of this game via Eve online player community. The little bit of cash here and there from these merc packs and aurum purchases probably go nowhere into development.. atleast yet i would think, my guess though is that most the funds from them sales is headed towards sony for having it on thier network? don't know.. but I guess in a way that is still contribuiting.. so don't know why I even bothered writing up this silly paragraph argument lol
Cpl Quartz 127	Posted - 2012.10.16 17:03:00 - [43] - Quote Knightshade Belladonna wrote: Gcember wrote: Like this: This game is second generation. To make progress you need money, they have offered deals how to get in the beta by paying, but the majority of players how got into the beta got it for free. I say that if you have payed for getting into the beta, or payed for equipment, look at it this way: You have contributed to a huge step in gaming. cash has been flowing in for years for development of this game via Eve online player community. The little bit of cash here and there from these merc packs and aurum purchases probably go nowhere into development.. atleast yet i would think, my guess though is that most the funds from them sales is headed towards sony for having it on thier network? don't know.. but I guess in a way that is still contribuiting.. so don't know why I even bothered writing up this silly paragraph argument lol i would hape ccp negotiated a better deal than that. after all they should be privlaged that dust is on their books now. sort of.
Maximus Creed ZionTCD Legacy Rising 68	Posted - 2012.10.16 17:07:00 - [44] - Quote Knightshade Belladonna wrote: Gcember wrote: Like this: This game is second generation. To make progress you need money, they have offered deals how to get in the beta by paying, but the majority of players how got into the beta got it for free. I say that if you have payed for getting into the beta, or payed for equipment, look at it this way: You have contributed to a huge step in gaming. cash has been flowing in for years for development of this game via Eve online player community. The little bit of cash here and there from these merc packs and aurum purchases probably go nowhere into development.. atleast yet i would think, my guess though is that most the funds from them sales is headed towards sony for having it on thier network? don't know.. but I guess in a way that is still contribuiting.. so don't know why I even bothered writing up this silly paragraph argument lol Its also a great metric for seeing how well your product might do when it is finally released. If people are willing to pay money for a free to play game whilst its in beta, its a good sign!
Cpl Quartz 127	Posted - 2012.10.16 17:09:00 - [45] - Quote then they went an u turned :( mordu player who bought merc pack, have only spent 1 aur on voice coms in 2 builds. and that was only because i didnt realise i'd have to listen to some whiny american goonswarm sob from eve
Knightshade Belladonna Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 288	Posted - 2012.10.16 17:09:00 - [46] - Quote Maximus Creed wrote: Knightshade Belladonna wrote: Gcember wrote: Like this: This game is second generation. To make progress you need money, they have offered deals how to get in the beta by paying, but the majority of players how got into the beta got it for free. I say that if you have payed for getting into the beta, or payed for equipment, look at it this way: You have contributed to a huge step in gaming. cash has been flowing in for years for development of this game via Eve online player community. The little bit of cash here and there from these merc packs and aurum purchases probably go nowhere into development.. atleast yet i would think, my guess though is that most the funds from them sales is headed towards sony for having it on thier network? don't know.. but I guess in a way that is still contribuiting.. so don't know why I even bothered writing up this silly paragraph argument lol Its also a great metric for seeing how well your product might do when it is finally released. If people are willing to pay money for a free to play game whilst its in beta, its a good sign! true
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 742	Posted - 2012.10.16 17:36:00 - [47] - Quote I bought the merc pack (after getting a free beta key) because I wanted to buy CCP a pizza. Problem, sir?
Knightshade Belladonna Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 288	Posted - 2012.10.16 17:38:00 - [48] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: I bought the merc pack (after getting a free beta key) because I wanted to buy CCP a pizza. Problem, sir? yes indeed there is a problem.. they would have much rather you bought them some grandma prepared skyr
Baracka Flocka Flame SyNergy Gaming 334	Posted - 2012.10.16 18:32:00 - [49] - Quote Is the OPTIONAL 20$ too much for another person? Lol. Get a job.
Bubbles moon Algintal Core Gallente Federation 18	Posted - 2012.10.16 18:34:00 - [50] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: And if we don-¦t have AUR we can turn to something else because the ISK reward is a joke at the moment. So either we pay cash or stop playing... Awesome what, you'll be able to sell slavage for isk mate

DEADPOOL5241 Doomheim 212	Posted - 2012.10.16 18:52:00 - [51] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: What is this world coming to? Why would anyone do this. Are we talking about daddy-¦s wallet here or? What-¦s going on? Its my money, I earned it so I can spend it on what I want.
Sobriety Denied Universal Allies Inc. 432	Posted - 2012.10.16 18:57:00 - [52] - Quote i like to say with employment but being that it is some of the weaker/lesser trolls who are vastly uncreative and must resort to labeling me as 12 year's old (as if that's an actual insult) that would consist of me and my paper route money
Cpl Quartz 127	Posted - 2012.10.16 19:25:00 - [53] - Quote Sobriety Denied wrote: i like to say with employment but being that it is some of the weaker/lesser trolls who are vastly uncreative and must resort to labeling me as 12 year's old (as if that's an actual insult) that would consist of me and my paper route money ** you i hope you dont have the fps controls on you next time we play. engine is ** engine.
Supercakers Algintal Core Gallente Federation 45	Posted - 2012.10.16 20:04:00 - [54] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: Grit Breather wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: HK-40 wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: What is this world coming to? Why would anyone do this. Are we talking about daddy-¦s wallet here or? What-¦s going on? Possible answers: * To get access to the beta * Having a job I got access to my beta for free. But why on earth do you guys pay for equipment that you as beta testers should be getting gratis? I don-¦t get this.. Please explain. It would really be nice if you actually paid attention to what's going on around you. People aren't spending real money on the beta, they're spending it on the finished product. Any money AUR bought/used during the beta is refunded after every reset and will be refunded for release. Part of the beta test is examining the balance of AUR prices. Buying is being testes too. Oh I-¦m paying attention kid. So you send your money to CCP so they can fill they-¦re bank account while you play the beta. And the reward? You get the stuff you already paid for once the game is out... lol GENIUS CCP! This is the way to fly! Get the gamers on the hook and then take they-¦re cash while beta testing. Brilliant!! I was going to start off by calling you any number of names, but let's just say, you aren't thinking it through. Before you consider anything else about the Aurum store, foremost it is NOT necessary to buy items from the store to play the game and/or have a chance against people who do. The store itself and items from it aren't automatic "I WIN" buttons. They do help, but it's not gear that makes people godlike. Here are some things you do get for buying cash for the store (and incidentally giving a bit of cash to support the company.) First of all, you get access to the Beta if you didn't have it. Second, you get at 40% of the cost it will (normally) sold at when the game is out of beta. Third, you can use the Aurum for weapons/gear that are much better than the same level gear much earlier. Fourth, as has been said you get reimbursed every single time there is a reset and also at the launch. You can test many many things, and do it at a faster rate of sp advancement with the Aurum sp boosters for every reset until launch. Fifth, you get NEVER ENDING blue prints of weapons and gear, that never run out, for as long as the game exists! Depending on when you bought a merc pack, you have at the bare minimum a free tier 1 scout suit and a free tier 1 smg. There were also tier 1 logistics and assault suits in a merc pack as well as a scout suit, if you were lucky enough to get the merc pack on that weekend. The amount of isk saved over even a short time period of a couple weeks is big. Over the course of the life of the game that will be Massive. You will be able to save isk faster for skill books to advance your skills faster, and still be a tad more versatile/deadly than someone in a pure militia default setup. It is, in my opinion, totally worth 2 to 2.5 hours of barely MINIMUM WAGE pay for a merc pack, buy as many as you want if you have the cash! You will be able to sell the bpo's and whatnot later on and be even better off isk-wise, or even give a couple to friends if you want, it's up to you. TL:DR Tons of value, totally worth it. Buy, enjoy, and support the company in the process.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 810	Posted - 2012.10.16 21:40:00 - [55] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: HK-40 wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: And if we don-¦t have AUR we can turn to something else because the ISK reward is a joke at the moment. So either we pay cash or stop playing... Awesome So in actuality you didn't really want to know why we/people had purchased Merc Packs, and this was just you looking for an opportunity to flame as you are feeling a little miffed that the game isn't what you personally feel it should be? Well done I guess I still want to know because I-¦m finding this really hard to understand. I join a team of beta testers but when it comes down to it I have to pay real money to be able to play this game propper. Pretty sad if you ask me. So I-¦m guessing most of you guys are using daddy-¦s wallet for this? Who in they-¦re right mind would throw they-¦re money away like this anyway? Why are you taking part in this nonsense? I spent $10 as a preorder for $50 worth of in-game stuff at launch. I guess you've never preordered a videogame before?


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