Why is this tread here so all the arcade strafe verterns can look back fondly of the good old days, well i was one the people who defended that tread against ye and the only person i can remember having a half decent discusion with was mud there the rest of ye were just trolling and talking **** about the people who wanted it fixed ye brough it on yer selfs,

This build is 1000 times better than the builds we had before while i agree that its been somewhat over nerfed its still better now than previous, also to say its impossible to get a edge by strafing now trust me you can if you do it right i do it when ever i have to fight CQC, its still possible just not as easy it no longer trumps cover and actualy trying to get a good shot lined up in last build spray and pray won every time now it takes skill to be able to beat someone using it.

For all the talk about skills making yourselfs out to be the best now that everyones on equal footing ye complain instead of dominate, that shows me all ye want is yer cheap move back.

Welcome to a better dust

Look at the Corporation KDR and WLR then comeback at me brother.

This game in it's current state promotes camping

This part is relevent yes it does promote snipers which proves that snipers are not working as intended. TBH iam not sure of a balence solution to that other than nerf the rifle its self and give scouts a bonus with the sniper to boost it to where it is now, i dont think snipers would be as liked if it was not as good when used from assult suit.

As for the other part proto i realise you are a good player who would likly win against me 1v1, but i still would want toask why do you want a cheap move that gives you a advantage over most players?

strafing is a cheap move

strafing was a viable counter in CQC combat. It isn't now.

Once a guy with a shot gun get's close to you, you're dead.

E3 was faster but then again I could use the Breach AR

In last build because it trumped the use of cover to the extent of cover being usless to effectily get a firing position while in cover you have to be still but straffing doubled as cover due to hit detection which iam certain had something to do with all the dancing fights that is i straffed in last build so much cover tactics ans firing positions were a liability

I can see where you are coming from as in some games that i dont realy play strafing is a part of the gun fight but most of the games i play straffing is only used in CQC when you aint got cover handy, this is the issue 2 different playstyles debating one topic from our own point of veiw

its a shame because as much as you likly dont agree with my point of veiw iam sorry to say i dont agree with your either

If you want to play a circle-strafe game and run in circles with people, go preorder Halo 4.

That video is so hilariously relevant.

anyway we can have it as DUST 514 514 intro?

Its like listening to tony and shar on coms

Agreed with all my fellow "strafe needs a boost" fellas.

Again, saying straffing is noobish is kind of an obvious noob point. So is opposing straffing with playing with cover. Dumb as hell. A skilled game is a game where you must combine a large variety of skills : dodging, moving smartly , aiming, anticipating ennemy movements, adapting your weapons to the game etc...

Now, we have a "stay on cover and aim straight game". Soooo skilled (ironic).... and not very demanding on the tracking target part. I accept without trouble to be killed by a guy who owned me with a good dodging move, but a standing guy that made no effort whatsoever as i never had a chance to get out is SOF? No.

games been steadily being dumbed down since replication. Ask any angry vet that's actually worth their weight in the game.

JUMP they killed my Tactical AR... they killed my Tactical AR

IAM a angary VET CCP

JUMP they killed my Tactical AR... they killed my Tactical AR

IAM a angary VET CCP

you spelled angry wrong.

the game needs a strafe boost
only ppl that complained about strafing were the ppl that were extremely bad at tracking targets

strafing adds skill, being able to keep ur aim on someone for a sustained period of time = skill
the fps mechanics part of this game should be gettin feedback solely from ppl who spend alot of time on console fps not eve players who may or may not casually pick up a shooter

each build the gunplay gets a bit worse imo.
i had the most fun gunfights back on the 1st build and that **** u had to lead ppl by 20m just to get hit markers cuz the hit detection was so ****** yet i still had more fun on that? why? cuz the speed felt right.

ppl can argue all they want about dust being a "tactical" shooter fact is u DONT ever try to combine a tactical shooter and a high health game it doesnt work out and that is showing in DUST.

tactical shooters are low health games and lets face it dust will suck epic donkey balls if its made into a low health shooter when u have to pay for gear each time u die.

CCP stop catering to bad players, thought DUST was suppose to be hardcore? whatever happened to tellin noobs HTFU?
even a slight strafe buff will help + make the game smoother in general still feels too stiff

Playing with one hand behind your back = skill, too. Seriously, strafe speed seems fine to me, but clearly there are plenty of people who disagree. And no, as soon as you say only a select set of people's opinions matter, you end up dead wrong no matter how valid your point may or may not be. I enjoy it more now than in previous builds and I fit into your narrowly defined category of people whose opinion should be considered.

Definitely need to look at strafe speeds and how a heavy strafes as quickly as a scout, but regardless, it's better now than previous builds.

Last build was wonderful.
CCP do the strangest things clearly...