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Ieukoplast
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:26:00 -
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Wow, I just love playing at a frame-rate of 2 FPS during a heated match.... ALL THE TIME.
CCP, you have raised the bar at releasing pure unplayable garbage upon the PS3 community. No beta I have EVER been in has been this shoddy and ****-poor. And I have been playing on the PS3 since it came out. No other beta has EVER been this bad, you guys win the award of WORST PS3 DEVELOPER OF ALL TIME.
The sad thing is, the previous build was miles better than this crap. At least I could ******* play a match with a decent frame-rate.
Talk to some PS3 devs for crying out loud, and get some damn advice on how to make a PS3 game. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:29:00 -
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Ieukoplast wrote:Wow, I just love playing at a frame-rate of 2 FPS during a heated match.... ALL THE TIME.
CCP, you have raised the bar at releasing pure unplayable garbage upon the PS3 community. No beta I have EVER been in has been this shoddy and ****-poor. And I have been playing on the PS3 since it came out. No other beta has EVER been this bad, you guys win the award of WORST PS3 DEVELOPER OF ALL TIME.
The sad thing is, the previous build was miles better than this crap. At least I could ******* play a match with a decent frame-rate.
Talk to some PS3 devs for crying out loud, or get of our console and go ruin something else.
As much as i agree with you regarding the gameplay in this beta, there's no need to be that agressive don't you think ? As you said, previous build was actually real fun to play imo. And this one has a lot of improvements in various area like visuals, menus and global polish.
So, maybe being a little bit more constructive would be a better option. |
JACK THE R1PPER
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
84
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:31:00 -
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Ieukoplast wrote:Wow, I just love playing at a frame-rate of 2 FPS during a heated match.... ALL THE TIME.
CCP, you have raised the bar at releasing pure unplayable garbage upon the PS3 community. No beta I have EVER been in has been this shoddy and ****-poor. And I have been playing on the PS3 since it came out. No other beta has EVER been this bad, you guys win the award of WORST PS3 DEVELOPER OF ALL TIME.
The sad thing is, the previous build was miles better than this crap. At least I could ******* play a match with a decent frame-rate.
Talk to some PS3 devs for crying out loud, and get some damn advice on how to make a PS3 game.
Maybe blunt, but 100% agree. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:33:00 -
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Ieukoplast wrote:Wow, I just love playing at a frame-rate of 2 FPS during a heated match.... ALL THE TIME.
CCP, you have raised the bar at releasing pure unplayable garbage upon the PS3 community. No beta I have EVER been in has been this shoddy and ****-poor. And I have been playing on the PS3 since it came out. No other beta has EVER been this bad, you guys win the award of WORST PS3 DEVELOPER OF ALL TIME.
The sad thing is, the previous build was miles better than this crap. At least I could ******* play a match with a decent frame-rate.
Talk to some PS3 devs for crying out loud, and get some damn advice on how to make a PS3 game.
i bet every PS3 beta you have played was a demo beta... |
Ieukoplast
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
169
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:34:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:
As much as i agree with you regarding the gameplay in this beta, there's no need to be that agressive don't you think ? As you said, previous build was actually real fun to play imo. And this one has a lot of improvements in various area like visuals, menus and global polish.
So, maybe being a little bit more constructive would be a better option.
I am beyond constructive criticism at this point, I have tried over and over to be constructive, but it does nothing. And it sure feels good to let out what I really think.
I am quite simply, PISSED at what has happened to this beta. I can barely even ******* play the game now, and I am sick and tired of it.
When the game doesn't lag and have severe frame-rate and other issues, it is great, which is why i am passionate about it... but I can only take so much abuse before I crack. |
dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
967
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:35:00 -
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Can I has your stuff? |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:36:00 -
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dent 308 wrote:Can I has your stuff? lol
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Icy Tiger
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:37:00 -
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Let me tell you something. These are issues of your own fault. Not everyone is getting them, so maybe it's your she*t internet, yourshit ps3 or, you just suck ass and want to complain. I know you from the Star hawk forums, you did the exact same whining there as well. |
Ieukoplast
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
169
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:37:00 -
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4447 wrote:
i bet every PS3 beta you have played was a demo beta...
I have been in all stages of PS3 betas over the years. This is hands down, the worst.
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Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:37:00 -
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Ieukoplast wrote:Wow, I just love playing at a frame-rate of 2 FPS during a heated match.... ALL THE TIME.
CCP, you have raised the bar at releasing pure unplayable garbage upon the PS3 community. No beta I have EVER been in has been this shoddy and ****-poor. And I have been playing on the PS3 since it came out. No other beta has EVER been this bad, you guys win the award of WORST PS3 DEVELOPER OF ALL TIME.
The sad thing is, the previous build was miles better than this crap. At least I could ******* play a match with a decent frame-rate.
Talk to some PS3 devs for crying out loud, or get of our console and go ruin something else.
Okay. There is a difference between a real [beta] and a glorified demo which is what the industry has systematically done over the last decade almost. As for being the worst developer you've seen for the PlayStation3; have you not seen Zipper Interactive and SOCOM4? How about Lightbox Interactive and Starhawk? You know that is still being put together in large patches. It just finally got death match like a couple of weeks ago now. I've seen of worse fully released products. Like Capcom titles, and Biohazard6. Again do you even know what you are talking about? I'm not saying you are just that you are over exaggerating things.
There is lag, and latency though. We all know this. It more less has to do with the server and build. When you have a jurry rigged unpolished build plus an older server such as this you are bound to have issues arise. This is why were in a [beta] though. It takes time. Hopefully CCP understands this and pushes the release date to early 2013 though. I'm not saying I agree with or like everything they did, but really I have seen worse products -- STEAK anyone from the Xbox? -- that were fully released. Atleast here were in a [beta]. It can be ugly. So long as CCP understands they need to fix it and take their time.
No one here wants the game to flop or fail. That is the truth. The previous build being better? That is more or less subjective. I find this build leaps and bounds better. What I think is a small minority of people are just finding nostlagia with the old build or having a harder time adapting to this build. I'd like us to be more civil, but when threads like this pop up.. Especially from a Warhawker that I know I get a bit emberassed for the both us. It retracts the from issues we should be discussing as a community as there are real glitches, hiccups, hangups, and issues to deal with.
Also for the record CCP has several DICE members on staff to help program and consult this game. So yeah. They are talking to some devs. More of less; less or more. |
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Sir Petersen
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
112
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:38:00 -
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Yeah.. Some of you here are obviously forgetting that you are a part of a beta testing team. 100% able to quit at any point if you don-Št have what it takes to accept the faults that come with beta testing.
Take your anger and your childish behavior somewhere else. Or.. Try harder to be more constructive/positive when you open your mouth.
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Lonewolf514
79
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:41:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Let me tell you something. These are issues of your own fault. Not everyone is getting them, so maybe it's your she*t internet, yourshit ps3 or, you just suck ass and want to complain. I know you from the Star hawk forums, you did the exact same whining there as well.
was the starhawk game just as bad because it might just be a reflection on the whole industry, 90% of the games made are utter and total garbage and some of that can be attributed to a nameless jack of all trades engine. no wonder cliffyb left "employs the best in the industry" lol not if their engine/package is anything to go by. |
Ieukoplast
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
169
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:43:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Let me tell you something. These are issues of your own fault. Not everyone is getting them, so maybe it's your she*t internet, yourshit ps3 or, you just suck ass and want to complain. I know you from the Star hawk forums, you did the exact same whining there as well.
Starhawk may have sucked donkey bawls in gameplay and balance, but never was it flat out unplayable and bugged like this.
And you are blaming my PS3 hardware... seriously? LOL, wow. This ain't PC gaming where our shyte is customized, we are forced to use whatever Sony gives us, and the devs adhere to those standards. To say my PS3 is "not up to par" and to put that blame on me.... well, I would say go back to first grade and try to pass this time. LOL, wow!! |
Seran Jinkar
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
214
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:46:00 -
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okay ;) constructive critique 1:
Add Developer Mode to the game that shows additional statistics like memory usage, polygons etc. or AT LEAST fps and network stats.
constructive critique 2: remove booster, exploiters and trolls with a tree strike rule to allow a balanced and mature testing of this game.
constructive critique 3: Restructure the Beta Forum from an old -shool forum to something like a mindthread system. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:46:00 -
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Ieukoplast wrote:4447 wrote:
i bet every PS3 beta you have played was a demo beta...
I have been in all stages of PS3 betas over the years. This is hands down, the worst.
i've played a lot of PS3 betas and their all demos... |
Sandromin Hes
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
204
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:47:00 -
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ha, framerate issues? those are a personal problem, its not something you can fix through the server. Oh, and quit complaining. I haven't seen you ONCE on the forums posting constructive criticism. Those are my 2 cents. |
Lonewolf514
79
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:50:00 -
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Ieukoplast wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Let me tell you something. These are issues of your own fault. Not everyone is getting them, so maybe it's your she*t internet, yourshit ps3 or, you just suck ass and want to complain. I know you from the Star hawk forums, you did the exact same whining there as well. Starhawk may have sucked donkey bawls in gameplay and balance, but never was it flat out unplayable and bugged like this. And you are blaming my PS3 hardware... seriously? LOL, wow. This ain't PC gaming where our shyte is customized, we are forced to use whatever Sony gives us, and the devs adhere to those standards. To say my PS3 is "not up to par" and to put that blame on me.... well, I would say go back to first grade and try to pass this time. LOL, wow!!
that's because it was made on the HAVOK engine
T:A had people spawning in the enemy bases too and ut3 never did get rid of the proplem, LOL. CCP shanghai might want to email hi rez and ask if they ever did get a fix from epic. |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:50:00 -
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Seran Jinkar wrote:okay ;) constructive critique 1:
Add Developer Mode to the game that shows additional statistics like memory usage, polygons etc. or AT LEAST fps and network stats.
That would be helpful! I doubt that will ever happen as I doubt they trust us the players enough to see such data in live time. However it would be a fantastic tool to help us out in understanding how & why some of these issues are occuring. Oh I would just **** if I got that to help test the game. |
Ieukoplast
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
169
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Posted - 2012.10.05 13:01:00 -
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Rorek IronBlood wrote:
Okay. There is a difference between a real [beta] and a glorified demo which is what the industry has systematically done over the last decade almost. As for being the worst developer you've seen for the PlayStation3; have you not seen Zipper Interactive and SOCOM4? How about Lightbox Interactive and Starhawk? You know that is still being put together in large patches. It just finally got death match like a couple of weeks ago now. I've seen of worse fully released products. Like Capcom titles, and Biohazard6. Again do you even know what you are talking about? I'm not saying you are just that you are over exaggerating things.
There is lag, and latency though. We all know this. It more less has to do with the server and build. When you have a jurry rigged unpolished build plus an older server such as this you are bound to have issues arise. This is why were in a [beta] though. It takes time. Hopefully CCP understands this and pushes the release date to early 2013 though. I'm not saying I agree with or like everything they did, but really I have seen worse products -- STEAK anyone from the Xbox? -- that were fully released. Atleast here were in a [beta]. It can be ugly. So long as CCP understands they need to fix it and take their time.
No one here wants the game to flop or fail. That is the truth. The previous build being better? That is more or less subjective. I find this build leaps and bounds better. What I think is a small minority of people are just finding nostlagia with the old build or having a harder time adapting to this build. I'd like us to be more civil, but when threads like this pop up.. Especially from a Warhawker that I know I get a bit emberassed for the both us. It retracts the from issues we should be discussing as a community as there are real glitches, hiccups, hangups, and issues to deal with.
Also for the record CCP has several DICE members on staff to help program and consult this game. So yeah. They are talking to some devs. More of less; less or more.
I really hate to say this, but Socom4 and Starhawk were MILES above what CCP has now. No, I am not talking about the raw gameplay or what the game is about. I am talking about playability.
Even thought those games sucked beyond suck, at least I could play them somewhat consistently. Pretty much the worst thing to deal with was reliably finding a match.
See what you don't understand is that some of us, like me, are having MASSIVE issues with the latest build. I spend several hours a night restarting my game and dealing with bugs and errors left and right... just so I can play ONE MATCH. So many of you play like it's not big deal at all, but I am struggling nearly 100% of the time just to get in a single damn match without issues, bugs or errors.
For crying out loud, 9 times out of 10 when I type something into the chat rooms for my local, squad, or corp... I CANNOT see it, nor can I receive squad invites or anything like that. I try EVERY night to play with friend(s), yet we spend most of the night just getting me into a squad and into a match successfully. MOST of the time nothing ever works. I would be lucky to play 2 matches a night with my friends (or even by myself).
Seriously man, you have absolutely no idea what kind of stress and crap I am going through just to attempt to play this game every single night. You would be 100% grey in a few days for what i have had to deal with in the last week or so. Even my buddy has said that nobody he has played with has gone through what I have.
In an attempt to fix something, I am going to delete everything Dust on my PS3 and start over, from scratch... which for me means about 48 hours or more of PURE downloading. ****!!!
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Matobar
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
123
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Posted - 2012.10.05 13:09:00 -
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Ieukoplast wrote:Rorek IronBlood wrote:
Okay. There is a difference between a real [beta] and a glorified demo which is what the industry has systematically done over the last decade almost. As for being the worst developer you've seen for the PlayStation3; have you not seen Zipper Interactive and SOCOM4? How about Lightbox Interactive and Starhawk? You know that is still being put together in large patches. It just finally got death match like a couple of weeks ago now. I've seen of worse fully released products. Like Capcom titles, and Biohazard6. Again do you even know what you are talking about? I'm not saying you are just that you are over exaggerating things.
There is lag, and latency though. We all know this. It more less has to do with the server and build. When you have a jurry rigged unpolished build plus an older server such as this you are bound to have issues arise. This is why were in a [beta] though. It takes time. Hopefully CCP understands this and pushes the release date to early 2013 though. I'm not saying I agree with or like everything they did, but really I have seen worse products -- STEAK anyone from the Xbox? -- that were fully released. Atleast here were in a [beta]. It can be ugly. So long as CCP understands they need to fix it and take their time.
No one here wants the game to flop or fail. That is the truth. The previous build being better? That is more or less subjective. I find this build leaps and bounds better. What I think is a small minority of people are just finding nostlagia with the old build or having a harder time adapting to this build. I'd like us to be more civil, but when threads like this pop up.. Especially from a Warhawker that I know I get a bit emberassed for the both us. It retracts the from issues we should be discussing as a community as there are real glitches, hiccups, hangups, and issues to deal with.
Also for the record CCP has several DICE members on staff to help program and consult this game. So yeah. They are talking to some devs. More of less; less or more.
I really hate to say this, but Socom4 and Starhawk were MILES above what CCP has now. No, I am not talking about the raw gameplay or what the game is about. I am talking about playability. Even thought those games sucked beyond suck, at least I could play them somewhat consistently. Pretty much the worst thing to deal with was reliably finding a match. See what you don't understand is that some of us, like me, are having MASSIVE issues with the latest build. I spend several hours a night restarting my game and dealing with bugs and errors left and right... just so I can play ONE MATCH. So many of you play like it's not big deal at all, but I am struggling nearly 100% of the time just to get in a single damn match without issues, bugs or errors. For crying out loud, 9 times out of 10 when I type something into the chat rooms for my local, squad, or corp... I CANNOT see it, nor can I receive squad invites or anything like that. I try EVERY night to play with friend(s), yet we spend most of the night just getting me into a squad and into a match successfully. MOST of the time nothing ever works. I would be lucky to play 2 matches a night with my friends (or even by myself). Seriously man, you have absolutely no idea what kind of stress and crap I am going through just to attempt to play this game every single night. You would be 100% grey in a few days for what i have had to deal with in the last week or so. Even my buddy has said that nobody he has played with has gone through what I have. In an attempt to fix something, I am going to delete everything Dust on my PS3 and start over, from scratch... which for me means about 48 hours or more of PURE downloading. ****!!!
If it takes you so much time to download DUST 514, then I would postulate that the issue isn't DUST itself, but instead your internet that "sucks beyond suck," so to speak. I mean really, you even admit that most people can play the game just fine, which is, in fact, an achievement. The fact that you're just having issues probably means DUST itself isn't what is broken, just something on your end. So I suggest you try to find alternative solutions to the problem instead of ranting about how grey you are on the forums. Who knows? You might actually find the problem and be able to fix it. |
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Ieukoplast
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
169
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Posted - 2012.10.05 13:11:00 -
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Sandromin Hes wrote:ha, framerate issues? those are a personal problem
LOL man, I really hope you are a PC gamer, one who is absolutely clueless to the PS3 platform.
Personal issues, really? How is that a personal issue? hehe, I can only hope CCP is smart enough to ignore folks like yourself. Otherwise we are all doomed if CCP is stupid enough to think performance issues are the responsibility of the client (as it is in PC gaming). |
Corban Lahnder
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
158
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Posted - 2012.10.05 13:16:00 -
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I think your forgetiing that theres alot of factors that go into this.
The last build for me was .... GARBAGE.
Every single 5 objective match for me on the last build was either garunteed to drop me from match or worse, give me a hard freeze on the way back to merc quarters.
Invalid bugs, Endless loading wheels for the market. Unresponsive in merc quarters. For me the last build was terrible!
This build for what ever reason has been air tight. The only bug Ive gotten has been the match time out error.
As I speak with more and more people in game every one seems to be having a different experience. But most of the people I have spoken with seem to ba having less issues with this build than the last.
2 Frames Per Second. All the time? Really. I catch lag spikes and frame issues here and there. But honestly your claiming 2fps every moment of every match. Thats and exaggeration if I ever saw one. |
Ieukoplast
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
169
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Posted - 2012.10.05 13:18:00 -
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Matobar wrote: If it takes you so much time to download DUST 514, then I would postulate that the issue isn't DUST itself, but instead your internet that "sucks beyond suck," so to speak. I mean really, you even admit that most people can play the game just fine, which is, in fact, an achievement. The fact that you're just having issues probably means DUST itself isn't what is broken, just something on your end. So I suggest you try to find alternative solutions to the problem instead of ranting about how grey you are on the forums. Who knows? You might actually find the problem and be able to fix it.
Anybody who has a clue about network bandwidth and online gaming, knows it takes VERY little bandwidth to play a online game with 0% lag or issues. And even in regards to ping and network reliability, what I have does very well and is reliable. if I can play every other online game available just fine, except for Dust, it's pretty much common sense that it isn't my connection.
Seriously, get off the fanboy wagon. You are only hurting the game. |
Matobar
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
123
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Posted - 2012.10.05 13:26:00 -
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Ieukoplast wrote: Anybody who has a clue about network bandwidth and online gaming, knows it takes VERY little bandwidth to play a online game with 0% lag or issues. And even in regards to ping and network reliability, what I have does very well and is reliable. if I can play every other online game available just fine, except for Dust, it's pretty much common sense that it isn't my connection.
Seriously, get off the fanboy wagon. You are only hurting the game.
Lol fanboy wagon? When did that come up? From my perspective, you're the one hurting the game with your useless complaining. Seriously, you're like a little kid flapping your arms really hard trying to make yourself fly. Try all you want, it won't change things one bit. All I suggested was to look for possible issues on your end of the equation, because while it's true that you don't need a heavy bandwidth number to play an online game, it is also true that small bandwidth plus other issues means you will probably have a bad time. In a game like this that is still in closed beta, I'm assuming those issues do exist, and will plague those whose internet is sub-par, such as yourself. So instead of blaming the game, try to do something about it yourself, yeah? |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
673
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Posted - 2012.10.05 13:28:00 -
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Ieukoplast wrote:Wow, I just love playing at a frame-rate of 2 FPS during a heated match.... ALL THE TIME.
CCP, you have raised the bar at releasing pure unplayable garbage upon the PS3 community. No beta I have EVER been in has been this shoddy and ****-poor. And I have been playing on the PS3 since it came out. No other beta has EVER been this bad, you guys win the award of WORST PS3 DEVELOPER OF ALL TIME.
The sad thing is, the previous build was miles better than this crap. At least I could ******* play a match with a decent frame-rate.
Talk to some PS3 devs for crying out loud, and get some damn advice on how to make a PS3 game.
'No other beta has ever been this bad'? Really? You're talking like there's been hundreds of betas on ps3, and I can count a handful. I think you are mistaking said 'betas' for demos and the handful of BETAS I can think of have pretty much been glorified demos with a beta label. However, THIS beta is a genuine beta, the kind of beta that you find on PC, a broken code with bugs and glitches that need to be fixed by using the gaming community to find those bugs and glitches. If you think that this BETA represents the final product then you're a fool. But PLEASE do enlighten me (and readers of your thread) about all of these real genuine betas you've played on ps3, and TRY NOT to include 'uncharted 3, starhawk, and battlefield 3'3 as they are also under the 'glorified demo with beta label'. |
Matobar
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
123
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Posted - 2012.10.05 13:32:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote: TRY NOT to include 'uncharted 3, starhawk, and battlefield 3'3 as they are also under the 'glorified demo with beta label'.
You mean those weren't betas? |
Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
324
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Posted - 2012.10.05 13:34:00 -
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I have doubts that you've played real beta tests of games if you think this is bad. Real beta tests that is, not "We're done and we want some cheap marketing, so come on in and 'test' our game and go tell everyone how awesome it is".
If you're having those kinds of issues outside of a match the problem is almost surely on your end. Either your network connection flat out sucks or you have to set up port forwarding on your router. If you have an older PS3 you might want to consider upgrading the hard drive, since Dust makes heavy use of disk space to compensate for low RAM. |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
673
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Posted - 2012.10.05 13:37:00 -
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Matobar wrote:tribal wyvern wrote: TRY NOT to include 'uncharted 3, starhawk, and battlefield 3'3 as they are also under the 'glorified demo with beta label'. You mean those weren't betas?
Ask any dedicated PC gamer and they will tell you........'no' |
Leither Yiltron
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
417
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Posted - 2012.10.05 13:38:00 -
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Ieukoplast wrote:4447 wrote:
i bet every PS3 beta you have played was a demo beta...
I have been in all stages of PS3 betas over the years.
Looks like we've got a badass over here.
Do you have a fat PS3 leuko? |
Madison Four
57
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Posted - 2012.10.05 13:39:00 -
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Only lag I have noticed at all in the game, is on a specific map, I lag and stutter when I step inside a Null Cannon structure to hack it.
other than that, Dust plays pretty smoothly for me. at least in this build.
and since we obviously use the same hardware, I can't imagine what the issue is if you are having all these technical issues making the game unplayable for you. |
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Matobar
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
123
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Posted - 2012.10.05 13:39:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:Matobar wrote:tribal wyvern wrote: TRY NOT to include 'uncharted 3, starhawk, and battlefield 3'3 as they are also under the 'glorified demo with beta label'. You mean those weren't betas? Ask any dedicated PC gamer and they will tell you........'no'
I know, I was just messing. |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
673
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Posted - 2012.10.05 13:41:00 -
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Matobar wrote:tribal wyvern wrote:Matobar wrote:tribal wyvern wrote: TRY NOT to include 'uncharted 3, starhawk, and battlefield 3'3 as they are also under the 'glorified demo with beta label'. You mean those weren't betas? Ask any dedicated PC gamer and they will tell you........'no' I know, I was just messing.
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Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
651
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Posted - 2012.10.05 13:48:00 -
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Ieukoplast wrote:Wow, I just love playing at a frame-rate of 2 FPS during a heated match.... ALL THE TIME.
CCP, you have raised the bar at releasing pure unplayable garbage upon the PS3 community. No beta I have EVER been in has been this shoddy and ****-poor. And I have been playing on the PS3 since it came out. No other beta has EVER been this bad, you guys win the award of WORST PS3 DEVELOPER OF ALL TIME.
The sad thing is, the previous build was miles better than this crap. At least I could ******* play a match with a decent frame-rate.
Talk to some PS3 devs for crying out loud, and get some damn advice on how to make a PS3 game.
I had this happen to me last night Leuko and I restarted the PS3 and it went away. I was stutter stepping and the game had unplayable lag, I rebooted and it worked fine. So this is an in game issue. Have you made a BUG report on it, i'll post in it as well if so.
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Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.10.05 13:52:00 -
[34] - Quote
Well starting by deleting the entire application and then redownloading it all is a good start, but it could also just be your equipment. What sort of television set are you using? Does it have a 'Game Mode' where it can optomize for more Mhz, or frames per second? What is your connection though? Actually it depends on where the servers are being held in relation to where you are and your internet upload and download speed. Since CCP is primarily station in Greenland, or Norway I believe? Somoene else may know specifically, but I would postulate that their main servers are being run from there. Which is not exactly helping our lag at the moment. I'm not saying that justifies it all of the problems or latency issues. The build being a jurry rigged unpolished mess does not help either. It's literally not a pretty sight under the hood. I can garuntee that. In states like this; whenever you fix one issue another arises. Which is why I call [beta] times and the issues that plague these times "Amusement Park" issues. The devs have a sh!+ list for the day and it's all about debugging, and programming lines of codes. I personally could not and would not do it all day long. It would drive me insane.
If your porblems still persist though I would suggest contacting their support staff and e-mailing them.
Here are some things to consider though (as I do not know what you have or run.)
- What is your internet upload and download speed?
- What sort of television set are you using?
- Delete and reinstall Dust514 application.
- Are you running via wireless or ethernet cable connection?
Little things matter a lot. I'm not having nearly as many issues as you or some are, and I run a phatty, George Foreman grill PlayStation3. So it certainly is not the standardized home entertainment consoles that is the problem. It could very well be that you were just unlucky enough to be victim to these issues. However you are in a rare spot to approprietly respond to these issues in a civil and rational manner as a tester. This is why you are here essentially. To test and find these problems. |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.10.05 13:54:00 -
[35] - Quote
Matobar wrote:tribal wyvern wrote: TRY NOT to include 'uncharted 3, starhawk, and battlefield 3'3 as they are also under the 'glorified demo with beta label'. You mean those weren't betas?
Ever try the KILLZONE3, Uncharted3, or Battlefield3 [betas]? No difference from final product at all. Glorified demo indeed. |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.10.05 13:58:00 -
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4447 wrote:Ieukoplast wrote:Wow, I just love playing at a frame-rate of 2 FPS during a heated match.... ALL THE TIME.
CCP, you have raised the bar at releasing pure unplayable garbage upon the PS3 community. No beta I have EVER been in has been this shoddy and ****-poor. And I have been playing on the PS3 since it came out. No other beta has EVER been this bad, you guys win the award of WORST PS3 DEVELOPER OF ALL TIME.
The sad thing is, the previous build was miles better than this crap. At least I could ******* play a match with a decent frame-rate.
Talk to some PS3 devs for crying out loud, and get some damn advice on how to make a PS3 game. i bet every PS3 beta you have played was a demo beta...
This seriously is a ******** argument.
R2 closed beta KZ2 closed beta Uncharted 2 closed beta MAG closed beta KZ3 closed beta (the alpha code is leaps and bounds better than DUST is. I actually still have the alpha code on my PS3 and it still works) Uncharted 3 beta
all real betas and are superior to DUST while they were in closed beta |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2012.10.05 14:33:00 -
[37] - Quote
Ieukoplast wrote:Wow, I just love playing at a frame-rate of 2 FPS during a heated match.... ALL THE TIME.
CCP, you have raised the bar at releasing pure unplayable garbage upon the PS3 community. No beta I have EVER been in has been this shoddy and ****-poor. And I have been playing on the PS3 since it came out. No other beta has EVER been this bad, you guys win the award of WORST PS3 DEVELOPER OF ALL TIME.
The sad thing is, the previous build was miles better than this crap. At least I could ******* play a match with a decent frame-rate.
Talk to some PS3 devs for crying out loud, and get some damn advice on how to make a PS3 game.
Troll
Need I say more? |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.10.05 14:34:00 -
[38] - Quote
I can think of far worse developers.
BTW KZ3 was KZ2 Re-skinned same engine thus already hardened there is a reason why its alpha code is seemingly more stable than Dusts.
Dust 514 alpha code probably looked like mine craft. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.10.05 18:10:00 -
[39] - Quote
xprotoman23 wrote:4447 wrote:Ieukoplast wrote:Wow, I just love playing at a frame-rate of 2 FPS during a heated match.... ALL THE TIME.
CCP, you have raised the bar at releasing pure unplayable garbage upon the PS3 community. No beta I have EVER been in has been this shoddy and ****-poor. And I have been playing on the PS3 since it came out. No other beta has EVER been this bad, you guys win the award of WORST PS3 DEVELOPER OF ALL TIME.
The sad thing is, the previous build was miles better than this crap. At least I could ******* play a match with a decent frame-rate.
Talk to some PS3 devs for crying out loud, and get some damn advice on how to make a PS3 game. i bet every PS3 beta you have played was a demo beta... This seriously is a ******** argument. R2 closed beta KZ2 closed beta Uncharted 2 closed beta MAG closed beta KZ3 closed beta (the alpha code is leaps and bounds better than DUST is. I actually still have the alpha code on my PS3 and it still works) Uncharted 3 beta all real betas and are superior to DUST while they were in closed beta
their all sony products with a endless budget...
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Lonewolf514
79
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Posted - 2012.10.05 18:19:00 -
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been in worse betas and had the honesty to tell the devs that too. it's only 1 mans opinion. if everyone in this beta was honest and not suggesting things that just better the game for themselves we'd end up with a very very cool game that would be fun for most people. |
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Cortez The Killer
Immobile Infantry
187
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Posted - 2012.10.05 18:22:00 -
[41] - Quote
It's just CCPs way of farming the Tear Jar.
Looks like they scored another few. |
Lonewolf514
79
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Posted - 2012.10.05 18:24:00 -
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Cortez The Killer wrote: It's just CCPs way of farming the Tear Jar.
Looks like they scored another few.
bad excuse for not making the best game to date. currently they don't even come close |
Grezkev
The Red Guards
100
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Posted - 2012.10.05 18:24:00 -
[43] - Quote
lol. Nuff said |
Lonewolf514
79
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Posted - 2012.10.05 18:26:00 -
[44] - Quote
Grezkev wrote:lol. Nuff said
shoo shouldnt you be intervewing some scrubs?
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VanguardCommander
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
48
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Posted - 2012.10.05 18:52:00 -
[45] - Quote
This topic needs to be closed nothing here but ranting |
Lonewolf514
79
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Posted - 2012.10.05 19:03:00 -
[46] - Quote
truth? and evryone they interviewed are in 1 alliance? |
crazy space
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.10.05 19:12:00 -
[47] - Quote
dude. OP. The game is litterally unfinished. There is no secert build being held back for ***** and giggles. They don't have to let us test this game. GW2 for instrance only let people play for 2 days once every 2 months.
This was to stop people from raging like you |
crazy space
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.10.05 19:13:00 -
[48] - Quote
Matobar wrote:tribal wyvern wrote: TRY NOT to include 'uncharted 3, starhawk, and battlefield 3'3 as they are also under the 'glorified demo with beta label'. You mean those weren't betas? They weren't |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
810
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Posted - 2012.10.05 19:16:00 -
[49] - Quote
Ieukoplast wrote:Wow, I just love playing at a frame-rate of 2 FPS during a heated match.... ALL THE TIME.
CCP, you have raised the bar at releasing pure unplayable garbage upon the PS3 community. No beta I have EVER been in has been this shoddy and ****-poor. And I have been playing on the PS3 since it came out. No other beta has EVER been this bad, you guys win the award of WORST PS3 DEVELOPER OF ALL TIME.
The sad thing is, the previous build was miles better than this crap. At least I could ******* play a match with a decent frame-rate.
Talk to some PS3 devs for crying out loud, and get some damn advice on how to make a PS3 game.
someone didn't play the LBP Karting beta |
Lonewolf514
79
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Posted - 2012.10.05 19:32:00 -
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crazy space wrote:dude. OP. The game is litterally unfinished. There is no secert build being held back for ***** and giggles. They don't have to let us test this game. GW2 for instrance only let people play for 2 days once every 2 months.
This was to stop people from raging like you
you make me sad. just ******* ban me. easy solution. i'm just a dumbass.
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.10.05 19:40:00 -
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Ieukoplast wrote:Rorek IronBlood wrote:
Okay. There is a difference between a real [beta] and a glorified demo which is what the industry has systematically done over the last decade almost. As for being the worst developer you've seen for the PlayStation3; have you not seen Zipper Interactive and SOCOM4? How about Lightbox Interactive and Starhawk? You know that is still being put together in large patches. It just finally got death match like a couple of weeks ago now. I've seen of worse fully released products. Like Capcom titles, and Biohazard6. Again do you even know what you are talking about? I'm not saying you are just that you are over exaggerating things.
There is lag, and latency though. We all know this. It more less has to do with the server and build. When you have a jurry rigged unpolished build plus an older server such as this you are bound to have issues arise. This is why were in a [beta] though. It takes time. Hopefully CCP understands this and pushes the release date to early 2013 though. I'm not saying I agree with or like everything they did, but really I have seen worse products -- STEAK anyone from the Xbox? -- that were fully released. Atleast here were in a [beta]. It can be ugly. So long as CCP understands they need to fix it and take their time.
No one here wants the game to flop or fail. That is the truth. The previous build being better? That is more or less subjective. I find this build leaps and bounds better. What I think is a small minority of people are just finding nostlagia with the old build or having a harder time adapting to this build. I'd like us to be more civil, but when threads like this pop up.. Especially from a Warhawker that I know I get a bit emberassed for the both us. It retracts the from issues we should be discussing as a community as there are real glitches, hiccups, hangups, and issues to deal with.
Also for the record CCP has several DICE members on staff to help program and consult this game. So yeah. They are talking to some devs. More of less; less or more.
I really hate to say this, but Socom4 and Starhawk were MILES above what CCP has now. No, I am not talking about the raw gameplay or what the game is about. I am talking about playability. Even thought those games sucked beyond suck, at least I could play them somewhat consistently. Pretty much the worst thing to deal with was reliably finding a match. See what you don't understand is that some of us, like me, are having MASSIVE issues with the latest build. I spend several hours a night restarting my game and dealing with bugs and errors left and right... just so I can play ONE MATCH. So many of you play like it's not big deal at all, but I am struggling nearly 100% of the time just to get in a single damn match without issues, bugs or errors. For crying out loud, 9 times out of 10 when I type something into the chat rooms for my local, squad, or corp... I CANNOT see it, nor can I receive squad invites or anything like that. I try EVERY night to play with friend(s), yet we spend most of the night just getting me into a squad and into a match successfully. MOST of the time nothing ever works. I would be lucky to play 2 matches a night with my friends (or even by myself). Seriously man, you have absolutely no idea what kind of stress and crap I am going through just to attempt to play this game every single night. You would be 100% grey in a few days for what i have had to deal with in the last week or so. Even my buddy has said that nobody he has played with has gone through what I have. In an attempt to fix something, I am going to delete everything Dust on my PS3 and start over, from scratch... which for me means about 48 hours or more of PURE downloading. ****!!!
Look I am going to try and say this in a polite manner: Get a better internet hookup. If you are useing Wi Fi chances are someone is leeching off your internet hookup and thus its SLOW for your gameplay.
Fixes: WIRED internet to PS3. BETTER ISP provider with MINIMUM ten megabit download and five megabit upload. Get rid of the OLD router and buy a NEW one. Get a NEW cable installed or NEW DSL line since your equipment is probably old, tired and busted.
Take a nap every once in a bit. Check your sensitivity numbers on the controller.
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lordjanuz
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation
88
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Posted - 2012.10.05 20:09:00 -
[52] - Quote
Played 6 matches last night all whent fine, some lag. Fiber 50-50 |
Saiibot
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
142
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Posted - 2012.10.05 20:50:00 -
[53] - Quote
Ieukoplast wrote:Wow, I just love playing at a frame-rate of 2 FPS during a heated match.... ALL THE TIME.
CCP, you have raised the bar at releasing pure unplayable garbage upon the PS3 community. No beta I have EVER been in has been this shoddy and ****-poor. And I have been playing on the PS3 since it came out. No other beta has EVER been this bad, you guys win the award of WORST PS3 DEVELOPER OF ALL TIME.
The sad thing is, the previous build was miles better than this crap. At least I could ******* play a match with a decent frame-rate.
Talk to some PS3 devs for crying out loud, and get some damn advice on how to make a PS3 game. U need to "relax" and work on lowering your standards and making your tolerance threshold next to non-existent! THEN you will see this build in all its glory! An unethical amount of patience is the key |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.10.05 21:16:00 -
[54] - Quote
Rorek IronBlood wrote:
Well starting by deleting the entire application and then redownloading it all is a good start, but it could also just be your equipment. What sort of television set are you using? Does it have a 'Game Mode' where it can optomize for more Mhz, or frames per second? .
This made me chuckle, it's similar to the Dice BF3 fiasco. There is no input lagg for the ps3 version of bf3 it's your tv's fault remember that.
I to get lagg low frame rates on this version, yes I use a wired connection, my ports are forwarded , and I got a super duper new led tv and good internet service.
Ive been in many beta's mainly on the pc but what gets me most here are two things.
1/ The way people are all to quick to defend this game and try to discredit players who have concerns and issues.
2/ The total lack of any feed back, acknowledgement or input from the developers themselves on there own forum.
In most betas the developer will go out of there way to keep testers informed and communicate on any bugs issues and just generally keep the community informed, not seen that here and that you cant defend
EDIT--- I have played a dozen games in this new build and with the issues above plus it's the most boring build to date in game play I'm not impressed.
And yes you can have my stuff. |
Vermendi Mercana
5
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Posted - 2012.10.05 21:19:00 -
[55] - Quote
Ieukoplast wrote:Wow, I just love playing at a frame-rate of 2 FPS during a heated match.... ALL THE TIME.
CCP, you have raised the bar at releasing pure unplayable garbage upon the PS3 community. No beta I have EVER been in has been this shoddy and ****-poor. And I have been playing on the PS3 since it came out. No other beta has EVER been this bad, you guys win the award of WORST PS3 DEVELOPER OF ALL TIME.
The sad thing is, the previous build was miles better than this crap. At least I could ******* play a match with a decent frame-rate.
Talk to some PS3 devs for crying out loud, and get some damn advice on how to make a PS3 game.
And this is a lassic example on why MMO's Are rare on consoles because of idiotic whiniing such as this |
Serotriptomin3 Novaborn
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2012.10.05 21:24:00 -
[56] - Quote
There is 1 map where frames drop to unplayable levels. Around 7PM pst US players are not allowed to play skirmish.
Other then that, I've seen nothing that would constitute this being a ****** beta. As far as I understand, they are scaling items, testing different aspects of the game and are accumulating data to fix the problems that have persisted without creating new ones.
*shrug* |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2012.10.05 21:28:00 -
[57] - Quote
Ieukoplast wrote:Wow, I just love playing at a frame-rate of 2 FPS during a heated match.... ALL THE TIME.
CCP, you have raised the bar at releasing pure unplayable garbage upon the PS3 community. No beta I have EVER been in has been this shoddy and ****-poor. And I have been playing on the PS3 since it came out. No other beta has EVER been this bad, you guys win the award of WORST PS3 DEVELOPER OF ALL TIME.
The sad thing is, the previous build was miles better than this crap. At least I could ******* play a match with a decent frame-rate.
Talk to some PS3 devs for crying out loud, and get some damn advice on how to make a PS3 game.
lol this guy never played a beta in his life. Planetside 2 got the same issues. |
Chinduko
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
19
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Posted - 2012.10.05 22:10:00 -
[58] - Quote
Not everyone will agree with my thoughts but some will. I'd play Dust more if these possible deficiencies were improved.
Dust graphics are extremely low quality. I don't know many PS3 games with so little quality. Even MAG which many would say had very low quality graphics would be an extreme improvement. Section 8 Prejudice which Dust seems very much alike also had better graphics as well and it may have been below MAG's quality.
The scopes are very jerky when compared to smooth moving COD, Battlefield, and MAG red dot scoping.
It's basically a very low quality version of Battlefield 3's Conquest game mode which means teams are no longer defending their location. Everyone is attacking. In Dust's story, corporations are to defend their own planet but they'd still be attacking with the current build. The first build didn't have this issue as one team was a dedicated defender and the other was the attacker. (I compare Dust to BF3 due to its larger maps and slower paced combat than COD's Domination game mode)
Huge empty maps which take a long time to get to the action so if you die just as you get there, you have to make that long walk all over again. This means players have a reduced frequency of intense fire fights and more running which is boring, at least for me. Smaller maps would remedy this and reduce memory needs which would be better used for improved graphics. The large maps are barren anyway so players aren't missing out on beautiful scenery. (I suppose larger maps are more for the vehicles but even in ambush mode's smaller maps, the vehicles operate just fine without the large area around the central complex).
Final Note: The first build was my favorite build but I don't think it was appreciated as much by the majority of players. I thought all the guns worked well in that build and the dedicated attacker and defender work best with CCP's original concept of defending your planet. As enthusiastic as I initially was about Dust 514, I don't believe it's near ready to be released without a complete overhaul. That likely will not happen so I wish Dust the best of luck, it will need it.
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DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.10.05 22:17:00 -
[59] - Quote
http://youtu.be/wcLNteez3c4 |
R F Gyro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
315
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Posted - 2012.10.05 22:17:00 -
[60] - Quote
To OP: your experience with the new build seems much worse than most people's.
What is your ping time to the servers?... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=18627&find=unread
Also, are you playing in squads led by players from a different timezone? As far as I know the game picks a regional server (US, EU, AP, Australia) based on the location of the squad leader.
This thread talks about the network ports used by the game. Make sure they aren't being blocked... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=27899&find=unread
This thread also has advice for router & PS3 config... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=27896&find=unread
48 hours to download is a very long time. It only took me 3 hours, but I have 30mb fibre. |
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Typo Name
78
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Posted - 2012.10.05 22:37:00 -
[61] - Quote
You know what I always find funny?
On game A, the players are saying that game B is what everyone should be shooting for to get an amazing game. Meanwhile, on game B, the players are saying it's garbage. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.10.06 00:14:00 -
[62] - Quote
This! |
THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
33
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Posted - 2012.10.06 00:19:00 -
[63] - Quote
Icy Tiger wrote:Let me tell you something. These are issues of your own fault. Not everyone is getting them, so maybe it's your she*t internet, yourshit ps3 or, you just suck ass and want to complain. I know you from the Star hawk forums, you did the exact same whining there as well. And the Starhawk beta never lagged.. HAHA
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Superluminal Replicant
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2012.10.06 00:43:00 -
[64] - Quote
Ieukoplast wrote:Wow, I just love playing at a frame-rate of 2 FPS during a heated match.... ALL THE TIME.
CCP, you have raised the bar at releasing pure unplayable garbage upon the PS3 community. No beta I have EVER been in has been this shoddy and ****-poor. And I have been playing on the PS3 since it came out. No other beta has EVER been this bad, you guys win the award of WORST PS3 DEVELOPER OF ALL TIME.
The sad thing is, the previous build was miles better than this crap. At least I could ******* play a match with a decent frame-rate.
Talk to some PS3 devs for crying out loud, and get some damn advice on how to make a PS3 game.
Ive had a few hard freezes but not problems with frame rate, then again I do have a first generation PS3 which is a ******* BEAST compared to the newer slimline models. Take Skyrim for example, ive never had any problems running that game it was great, but so many other peoples PS3s have problems running it. So its definatly got something to do with what model of PS3 your using, I cant think of what other reason it could be, other than some PS3s overheat faster than others, idk.
I bought one of those fan mats from amazon you put your ps3 on it and it has fans that keep it cool. |
crazy space
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.10.06 01:45:00 -
[65] - Quote
Lonewolf514 wrote:crazy space wrote:dude. OP. The game is litterally unfinished. There is no secert build being held back for ***** and giggles. They don't have to let us test this game. GW2 for instrance only let people play for 2 days once every 2 months.
Guild wars 2 did that to stop people from raging like you you make me sad. just ******* ban me. easy solution. i'm just a dumbass.
Your not a dumbass your just playing a beta that honestly shouldn't be open past the weekends. And they should of kept the times 4 sp gain untill release. Playing a broken unfinished game everyday gives a bad impression, it's not your fault.
also the fact you can buy into the beta and it's inclusion of dust on ps3 seems to make me people think dust is a finished game. CAn't blame them, I don't blame you. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.10.06 02:35:00 -
[66] - Quote
lol
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EthantheAwesome
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.10.06 02:57:00 -
[67] - Quote
It's a beta for a reason, the problem is probably just from all the new features they've been adding not including server performance. But you never know.
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