Thought that's how it was anyway...

proto > everything.

No.
@ leu -- don't you mean
proto < everything.

Crimson, be careful what you wish for. CCP are just the people to actually remove strafing from FPS. Dust 51fail.

you got a chip on your shoulder..

Still use milita gear to kill proto stuff

Skill>gear

Strafing needs to be eliminated completely so that we can just stare at each other and hold R1. The better gear should win every gun fight.

farming SP > skill > gear.

Or spawn sniping > playing the game.

And you know that quite well dont you ?

Instead of crying about it why dont you post ideas how to fix it in the feedback thread like a good beta tester does? oh sorry your just here to play the game

Strafing needs to be eliminated completely so that we can just stare at each other and hold R1. The better gear should win every gun fight.

Lol, seems that i know you quite well but the opposite isnt true.
And i'm confident CCP will solve this as they have various solutions in mind already. In fact, if you were really that much of a beta tester and hanged out on IRC with the devs like i do, you would know it.

Guess you don't. Exploiting is so much fun right ? Oh yeah, blame CCP right ?

Yeah. I remember that thread, and I agreed with it. Personally I have said this before, but the IRC is a glorified twitter feed. I would love to see CCP be more mindful and interactive in the sense that they post more information here properly. Even starting a thread once a week to see how people feel and what issues should be looked into.

I dont bother with the IRC

IRC causes more problems than it fixes them, i even made a thread about 'why the IRC?' and it was all posted in ther

I actually choose to use the officaial forums not a 3rd party biased chatroom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum

And doing it the other way would be infinite strafe speed.

Logically speaking, always worth working out the implications of both arguments, and then finding your answer somewhere in the middle.

Quite a large one, trust me.

Being on IRC is not absolutely needed. And i'm not suggesting that not being on IRC makes you less important.
I was just answering to you blaming me for criticizing exploit users instead of offering solutions, wich was false. That's it.

Now, i see you decided then to create an uber-feedback thread. Guess my intervention had some good in it then.

+1

I was planning to do it anyways

Im a beta tester not just a complain about and do **** all to help solve the problem player

Yeah. I remember that thread, and I agreed with it. Personally I have said this before, but the IRC is a glorified twitter feed. I would love to see CCP be more mindful and interactive in the sense that they post more information here properly. Even starting a thread once a week to see how people feel and what issues should be looked into.

if you haven't worked it out yet posting info here would constrain them from future bodge fixes and only have players asking why they didnt actually fix the underlying problems not just quickfix it and break 10 other things or compromise on gameplay and game quality. don't forget they invented "working as intended"

IRC has been rather vacant due to them being on vacation. So far they told us they know about the problems involving corps, fittings and squad stability. They haven't done any QnAs lately.

All I do know the reduced strafing was part of the new infantry mobility model which gives everyone more reliable mass and velocity, thus no more prancing around like a feather. Its also why there is infantry collision now and if you slam into each other hard enough you actually cause damage.

Considering they have actual PR employees those do just as well. As for your opinion on whether or not it would hinder progress I say progress is being hinder by not taking the time to connect properly with your testers. Opening a timed thread to ask how things are going in-game and what issues you are having, or concerns is not going to hinder the game at all. They open it for twenty-four hours and close it. Review it and see what issues seem appropriate or of actual concern. Thank testers, and have a nice day. I bet the forums and players would be a lot happier.

You know.. Instead of using a glorified twitter feed to mention you are on break, or going to use the rest room.

Needs tweaking I think, what likely happened was new model was shoved in but the variables kept the same. Either way its something to press into an issue. Either way fire fighting out in the open is asking to get shot by 6 other people.

Lol, seems that i know you quite well but the opposite isnt true.
And i'm confident CCP will solve this as they have various solutions in mind already. In fact, if you were really that much of a beta tester and hanged out on IRC with the devs like i do, you would know it.

Guess you don't. Exploiting is so much fun right ? Oh yeah, blame CCP right ?

Strafing needs to be eliminated completely so that we can just stare at each other and hold R1. The better gear should win every gun fight.

> = Greater than

< = Less than

So no. Pretty sure proto doesn't equal less than militia gear.

Make Strafing a movement skill, Strafe Mobility or Combat Maneuvering. At lvl 1 you would strafe and move backwards a little slower than now, and at lvl 5 you would be strafing and moving backwards as fast as you could in the last build. Have it so in lower levels their is a slight delay from strafing left then right because of momentum and overcoming it but in the higher levels you have trained for proper footing and mass management of your clone.

Its not like some fresh of the street guy could out maneuver a veteran Football or Soccer athlete.

good/bad?

i'd put all my SP into it if this existed

Which would be fine because it is important to you, but for say a dedicated tanker or pilot they wouldn't need something like this.

just so long as the movement speed was not greater than the hit detection lol

Seriously though how much of an mmo do we want out of this game. Right now skill is not much of a factor.

I don't mind if:
Combat Maneuvering(strafe, slide, roll, side hop)
Reflex (aim speed)
Consolidation (muscle memory, weapon swap)
Flexibility (Jump height)
and a few others for improving suit control.

Which would be fine because it is important to you, but for say a dedicated tanker or pilot they wouldn't need something like this.

just so long as the movement speed was not greater than the hit detection lol

being able to move out of the way of bullets, to me is very important. if i have to break dance my way out of bullets so be it. not asking for a god mode, but a chance for survival. i'm a tanker, a pilot. and a soldier

spy?

Strafing needs to be eliminated completely so that we can just stare at each other and hold R1. The better gear should win every gun fight.

I dont bother with the IRC

IRC causes more problems than it fixes them, i even made a thread about 'why the IRC?' and it was all posted in ther

I actually choose to use the officaial forums not a 3rd party biased chatroom