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Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.05 09:46:00 -
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Strafing needs to be eliminated completely so that we can just stare at each other and hold R1. The better gear should win every gun fight. |
Ieukoplast
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
169
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Posted - 2012.10.05 09:57:00 -
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Thought that's how it was anyway...
proto > everything.
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GIZMO2606
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
293
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Posted - 2012.10.05 10:30:00 -
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http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/9869953.jpg |
Dzark Kill
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.10.05 10:33:00 -
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Ieukoplast wrote:Thought that's how it was anyway...
proto > everything.
Nah there are officer mods that trump Proto, go research. |
Xiree
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
55
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Posted - 2012.10.05 11:07:00 -
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No. @ leu -- don't you mean proto < everything. |
Ieukoplast
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
169
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Posted - 2012.10.05 11:14:00 -
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Xiree wrote:No. @ leu -- don't you mean proto < everything. > = Greater than
< = Less than
So no. Pretty sure proto doesn't equal less than militia gear.
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.05 11:36:00 -
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Crimson, be careful what you wish for. CCP are just the people to actually remove strafing from FPS. Dust 51fail. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.10.05 11:56:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Crimson, be careful what you wish for. CCP are just the people to actually remove strafing from FPS. Dust 51fail.
you got a chip on your shoulder.. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.10.05 11:58:00 -
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4447 wrote:Tony Calif wrote:Crimson, be careful what you wish for. CCP are just the people to actually remove strafing from FPS. Dust 51fail. you got a chip on your shoulder.. Quite a large one, trust me. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:04:00 -
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Still use milita gear to kill proto stuff
Skill>gear
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:09:00 -
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Dunno running sideways while firing has always been rather cumbersome.
Also as someone mentiond before, CCP can and would remove strafing if you ask for it enough. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:18:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:Still use milita gear to kill proto stuff
Skill>gear
farming SP > skill > gear.
Or spawn sniping > playing the game.
And you know that quite well dont you ? |
Kaeralli Sturmovos
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
117
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:18:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:Strafing needs to be eliminated completely so that we can just stare at each other and hold R1. The better gear should win every gun fight.
alot of tears from someone who hardly plays. |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:19:00 -
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Seriously, CrimsonMoonV, who in the hell is forcing you to eat soggy p!ss soaked corn-flakes every day, three times a day with a glass of p!ss milk, and soggy sh!+ toast? Because, you are untolerable. Seriously dude get off the haterade, or something. We get it you do not like this build. I doubt you've liked any build. Yet we the people have to put up with your childish snobbish, rantings, and ravings. If I wanted this I'd go work for a state run pysch-ward, or insane asylume. Atleast then I'd be paid put up with it.
How about you start by less kicking and screaming. The whole I'm throwing a tantrum thing twenty-four seven with the song "It's My Party & I'll Cry if I Want to". I have no problem with you most of the time, but the whole routine is getting stale and I see mold. This is not going to help you get your way. Some of What you have to say is even decent and worthwhile valid points on what should be looked into.
Anyway.. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:28:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:Still use milita gear to kill proto stuff
Skill>gear
farming SP > skill > gear. Or spawn sniping > playing the game. And you know that quite well dont you ?
Instead of crying about it why dont you post ideas how to fix it in the feedback thread like a good beta tester does? oh sorry your just here to play the game |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:38:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:Laurent Cazaderon wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:Still use milita gear to kill proto stuff
Skill>gear
farming SP > skill > gear. Or spawn sniping > playing the game. And you know that quite well dont you ? Instead of crying about it why dont you post ideas how to fix it in the feedback thread like a good beta tester does? oh sorry your just here to play the game
Lol, seems that i know you quite well but the opposite isnt true. And i'm confident CCP will solve this as they have various solutions in mind already. In fact, if you were really that much of a beta tester and hanged out on IRC with the devs like i do, you would know it.
Guess you don't. Exploiting is so much fun right ? Oh yeah, blame CCP right ? |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:40:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:Strafing needs to be eliminated completely so that we can just stare at each other and hold R1. The better gear should win every gun fight.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum
And doing it the other way would be infinite strafe speed.
Logically speaking, always worth working out the implications of both arguments, and then finding your answer somewhere in the middle. |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:42:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:Laurent Cazaderon wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:Still use milita gear to kill proto stuff
Skill>gear
farming SP > skill > gear. Or spawn sniping > playing the game. And you know that quite well dont you ? Instead of crying about it why dont you post ideas how to fix it in the feedback thread like a good beta tester does? oh sorry your just here to play the game Lol, seems that i know you quite well but the opposite isnt true. And i'm confident CCP will solve this as they have various solutions in mind already. In fact, if you were really that much of a beta tester and hanged out on IRC with the devs like i do, you would know it. Guess you don't. Exploiting is so much fun right ? Oh yeah, blame CCP right ?
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I do not hang out at the IRC? Does that make me less cool? Ha-ha. No, but seriously I do not hang out at the IRC. I do not have the time to really, or the patience. Though if you do kudo I suppose.
I suddenly feel the peer pressure to start IRCing. He-he. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:48:00 -
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I dont bother with the IRC
IRC causes more problems than it fixes them, i even made a thread about 'why the IRC?' and it was all posted in ther
I actually choose to use the officaial forums not a 3rd party biased chatroom |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:53:00 -
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Yeah. I remember that thread, and I agreed with it. Personally I have said this before, but the IRC is a glorified twitter feed. I would love to see CCP be more mindful and interactive in the sense that they post more information here properly. Even starting a thread once a week to see how people feel and what issues should be looked into. |
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:54:00 -
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Rorek IronBlood wrote: Yeah. I remember that thread, and I agreed with it. Personally I have said this before, but the IRC is a glorified twitter feed. I would love to see CCP be more mindful and interactive in the sense that they post more information here properly. Even starting a thread once a week to see how people feel and what issues should be looked into.
+1 |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:56:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:I dont bother with the IRC
IRC causes more problems than it fixes them, i even made a thread about 'why the IRC?' and it was all posted in ther
I actually choose to use the officaial forums not a 3rd party biased chatroom
Being on IRC is not absolutely needed. And i'm not suggesting that not being on IRC makes you less important. I was just answering to you blaming me for criticizing exploit users instead of offering solutions, wich was false. That's it.
Now, i see you decided then to create an uber-feedback thread. Guess my intervention had some good in it then. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:56:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Strafing needs to be eliminated completely so that we can just stare at each other and hold R1. The better gear should win every gun fight. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdumAnd doing it the other way would be infinite strafe speed. Logically speaking, always worth working out the implications of both arguments, and then finding your answer somewhere in the middle.
a thinking man/woman not many of them around the forums... |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:57:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:4447 wrote:Tony Calif wrote:Crimson, be careful what you wish for. CCP are just the people to actually remove strafing from FPS. Dust 51fail. you got a chip on your shoulder.. Quite a large one, trust me.
Yeah, because I don't want to see a CCP version of the Nick Clegg song. "I'm sorry, I'm sorry, so so sorry" |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:59:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:I dont bother with the IRC
IRC causes more problems than it fixes them, i even made a thread about 'why the IRC?' and it was all posted in ther
I actually choose to use the officaial forums not a 3rd party biased chatroom Being on IRC is not absolutely needed. And i'm not suggesting that not being on IRC makes you less important. I was just answering to you blaming me for criticizing exploit users instead of offering solutions, wich was false. That's it. Now, i see you decided then to create an uber-feedback thread. Guess my intervention had some good in it then.
I was planning to do it anyways
Im a beta tester not just a complain about and do **** all to help solve the problem player |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.05 13:00:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Rorek IronBlood wrote: Yeah. I remember that thread, and I agreed with it. Personally I have said this before, but the IRC is a glorified twitter feed. I would love to see CCP be more mindful and interactive in the sense that they post more information here properly. Even starting a thread once a week to see how people feel and what issues should be looked into.
+1
Don't you guys think that we get to give suggestions to devs every 10 minutes.. Those guys work. Its main use is that it offers a chance to debate in live with different people from the beta. And often i ends up with a thread on official forums.
Also, one of the main reason why people use IRC is to try and get fresh news more often to feed to the forums.
Stop thinking IRC dudes thinks they're better than you. I know i'm not. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.05 13:01:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:Laurent Cazaderon wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:I dont bother with the IRC
IRC causes more problems than it fixes them, i even made a thread about 'why the IRC?' and it was all posted in ther
I actually choose to use the officaial forums not a 3rd party biased chatroom Being on IRC is not absolutely needed. And i'm not suggesting that not being on IRC makes you less important. I was just answering to you blaming me for criticizing exploit users instead of offering solutions, wich was false. That's it. Now, i see you decided then to create an uber-feedback thread. Guess my intervention had some good in it then. I was planning to do it anyways Im a beta tester not just a complain about and do **** all to help solve the problem player
Well, nice to talk with you. Next time, try and get the ironic tone... |
Lonewolf514
79
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Posted - 2012.10.05 13:04:00 -
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Rorek IronBlood wrote: Yeah. I remember that thread, and I agreed with it. Personally I have said this before, but the IRC is a glorified twitter feed. I would love to see CCP be more mindful and interactive in the sense that they post more information here properly. Even starting a thread once a week to see how people feel and what issues should be looked into.
if you haven't worked it out yet posting info here would constrain them from future bodge fixes and only have players asking why they didnt actually fix the underlying problems not just quickfix it and break 10 other things or compromise on gameplay and game quality. don't forget they invented "working as intended" |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.10.05 14:00:00 -
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Lonewolf514 wrote:Rorek IronBlood wrote: Yeah. I remember that thread, and I agreed with it. Personally I have said this before, but the IRC is a glorified twitter feed. I would love to see CCP be more mindful and interactive in the sense that they post more information here properly. Even starting a thread once a week to see how people feel and what issues should be looked into.
if you haven't worked it out yet posting info here would constrain them from future bodge fixes and only have players asking why they didnt actually fix the underlying problems not just quickfix it and break 10 other things or compromise on gameplay and game quality. don't forget they invented "working as intended"
Considering they have actual PR employees those do just as well. As for your opinion on whether or not it would hinder progress I say progress is being hinder by not taking the time to connect properly with your testers. Opening a timed thread to ask how things are going in-game and what issues you are having, or concerns is not going to hinder the game at all. They open it for twenty-four hours and close it. Review it and see what issues seem appropriate or of actual concern. Thank testers, and have a nice day. I bet the forums and players would be a lot happier.
You know.. Instead of using a glorified twitter feed to mention you are on break, or going to use the rest room. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.10.05 14:17:00 -
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IRC has been rather vacant due to them being on vacation. So far they told us they know about the problems involving corps, fittings and squad stability. They haven't done any QnAs lately.
All I do know the reduced strafing was part of the new infantry mobility model which gives everyone more reliable mass and velocity, thus no more prancing around like a feather. Its also why there is infantry collision now and if you slam into each other hard enough you actually cause damage. |
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