Since the new update I can only play DUST in 720P. On the last build I was able to play in 1080P. What happened? CCP, did you take out the 1080P support now. Is the game going to only support up to 720P now? If so, why when the other builds were 1080P?

It was only a faked 1080p, really just 720 (likely a LOT lower) but upscaled.

Some PS3 games do this, some don't. I prefer it when they don't, and play in their native resolution. I hate when the game tries to upscale to 1080 and it ends up being all blurry because my settings are set for 1080 (even though game is really 720 or less).

My TV told me it was playing at 1080p before the patch now it tells me the single going to it is only 480p so i am thinking a bug reducing the picture quality

No it wasnt intended for 1080p, I asked ccp some time ago and the devs themselves send me the answer, that there are no plans to make it 1080p but in the future who knows, everything is possible. Thats what they ve said.

Since the new update I can only play DUST in 720P. On the last build I was able to play in 1080P. What happened? CCP, did you take out the 1080P support now. Is the game going to only support up to 720P now? If so, why when the other builds were 1080P?

most games are not 1080p, the ps3 can not handle real games at real 1080p. the only games you find at real 1080p are PSN games.

majority of games are native 720p. nothing wrong here at all IMO

if the box says it supports 1080p does not mean its 1080p, it just supports the option.

Yes sir most likely. If you look at your display settings I'm willing to bet you that you have 720P unchecked.....or your tv doesnt support 720P, which I'm sure it does. Go into your display settings and check 720P and you can play in 720P right now.

But, I want 1080P back. The graphics were so much more clearer and all around better.

most games are not 1080p, the ps3 can not handle real games at real 1080p. the only games you find at real 1080p are PSN games.

majority of games are native 720p. nothing wrong here at all IMO

if the box says it supports 1080p does not mean its 1080p, it just supports the option.

the PS3 handles Gran Turismo 5 at 1080p and full 60fps... ok, so it took Polyphony Digital several years to make it work, but it shows that it can be done.

imho though, resolution does not equate to graphical fidelity; the human eye can only resolve so much detail, and only in the center of the field of view.

GT 5 is upscaled 1080p. Sure, it tries to do native 1080p, but let's the PS3 downgrade to lower resolutions and then upscale it to 1080p very often. 1080p will only be viable without the automatic upscaling in the next generation consoles.

the PS3 handles Gran Turismo 5 at 1080p and full 60fps... ok, so it took Polyphony Digital several years to make it work, but it shows that it can be done.

imho though, resolution does not equate to graphical fidelity; the human eye can only resolve so much detail, and only in the center of the field of view.

Hmmmm. I think we need some clarification from sony on this one. IMO, upscaling has nothing to do with what the product(game) says it can support. If it only says 720P then it can only do 720P natively. But if it says 1080P then it can do 1080P natively. If I am correct, I believe that the PS3 doesn't upscale games only video(movies). I will test this when I get home with Madden 13 and GT5. All I am going to do is turn of my upscaling, which it might already be off, and then only have 1080P and 480P enabled in my display settings and which one the game plays in.

I really do believe that the playstation does not upscale anything to 1080P(BluRay) quality. If it upscales it only upscales to 1080i quality. I could be wrong but maybe this is a discussion for Sony.

I will post back tonight with my test results.

no, native means thats what the game was made in. a few games can upscale to 1080p but it will look worse. i try to let my games run at their native resolution as to get the best visual fidelity out of them.

real games cannot run full 1080p on the ps3, it just can't handle it. Truth, idc what any of you say.

the only games that run Native 1080p are PSN games and that is only some of them.

everything else is 720p or less, such as MGS4 and BF3 which apparently are 576p which is a Europe thing, its equivalent to our 480p

there is nothing wrong here, the game is 720p

P.S. What I am talking about has nothing to do with upscaling.

I also have Madden 13. It supports 1080P. When I first got the game though it only played in 720P and I couldn't figure this out. That is how I found out about the little adjustment to your display settings on your PS3 that you need to do.

Always played in 720 for me ... right from first build.

2012.09.12 13:06:00 GM Bishop

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Hello,

Thanks for your email.

DUST 514 is running in 720p so anything that supports that resolution will work fine.

Hope this answer your question.

Regards,

GM Bishop
DUST 514 Customer Support Team

to quote CCP themselfs

So, the way I understand it, if you start a game and it says 1080P on the box and you can play in 1080P, then it is native 1080P.

So, back to my original question. I was able to play DUST in a 1080P format and now I cannot. So, WTF? What did you change CCP?... I mean that in a very nice way of course. Lol.

Actually I used to be able to run it in 1080p and now it's stuck at 720p which just gives the wrong aspect ratio on my tv :(

Okay guys,

I actually contacted Sony and this is what they said. It appears that we were all right in a sense. PS3 games are NOT upconverted. But, at the same time, if a game is advertised 1080P, that doesn't neccassariy mean that it was made for native 1080P but instead 720P. So, the way I understand it, if you start a game and it says 1080P on the box and you can play in 1080P, then it is native 1080P. So, I think this is a very interesting topic. I'd be curious to see what the game manufacturers say.


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So, back to my original question. I was able to play DUST in a 1080P format and now I cannot. So, WTF? What did you change CCP?... I mean that in a very nice way of course. Lol.

Actually I used to be able to run it in 1080p and now it's stuck at 720p which just gives the wrong aspect ratio on my tv :(

Some games do this automatically, some forbid it, and others, like Dusts previous build, allowed it but only if the user forced it.

This is what I would like to know. Why can I not "Force" it anymore. Regardless of weather is was native or not, the game still looked much better when I "Forced" it.

You probably need to adjust your screen fitting settings. Setting it to "wide screen", "16:9", or "wide fit" may stretch it weirdly, if you have a just-scan option, or a unscaled option, that would likely fix the aspect ratio problem.

Nope played with all of the screen settings (ingame and ps3) and it's still squished : /

I do understand what everyone is saying. But, a couple of things.

1. My TV does not upscale. It will only show what format is being pushed to it.

2. The sony rep. did say that PS3 games where not upscaled. The upscaling that the PS3 does is only for PS2 games and videos.

Regardless though, I used to be able to play DUST in 1080P, upscaled or not, my TV was saying 1080P and my picture quality was better.

After this last build, I cannot. That is all I would like to know is why cannot I not now? And why was I able too before? I'm am looking for a Dev's reply to this. What did you change and why did you change it.

One other thing to point out. If my PS3 or tv was upscaling it before, why is not now? Wouldn't it be the same now as it was then?