*gathers troll sweat to sell it to some old chinese guy on the market* Gosh! That troll sweat brings me 10 gold dublones a vial.
Oh and look.. there are shards of contradictive argumentation all over the place! I'm RIICH!!

Well I'm glad you asked sir. You kill as many people as you can without dying yourself then you receive your own personal KDR.

You are wrong. KDR is meaningless. What matters (or what should matter, although the game mechanics don't support the currently) is winning the match. You can win a match (and yes, that includes Ambush) without having the highest KDR players on your side. If everyone on one team works together and all get a similar number of kills, you can still win the round even when some players of the opposing team score much more kills.

Example: I was in an Ambush map, the best on our team had 6/0, the best on the other team had 19/3. I was eighth and had 6/7. We won.

Sorry OP but you are wrong. I just played a game last night in which my team won. I was top player @ 8/4 on my team, the opposing team had at least 6 players with 11+ kills & we still won by a large margin. Simply because we managed to capture & most importantly defend, more objectives for a longer period of time. Hence we won & the team full of killers lost. At least half my team went negative, but they were playing for the win not the kills.

Having a good KDR in certain scenarios is a good sign of a good player, the only problem is that it is an inaccurate means of measurement in general. Its so easy to pad your KDR and maintain it while still being useless to your team, but for those who can do there job, take the objective, and outright kill anyone who gets in there way I would say that is a good player. I say both sides are correct KDR does matter its just not the only thing that matters.

Babar is right though... Just sayin'

So are you trying to make the statement that the only thing any one should ever strive for in this game is kdr?

We may as well pull the logistics classes and vehicles then.

We should also, while were at it, dump objective play as well.

In fact why dont we dump the eve connection all together.

In fact why dont we just make a CoD clone.

No im sorry with the variety of game play in this game gunplay all though an important factor is not the only thing the maters.

Stop trying to dumb this game down to something its not.

[...] Logis should have a KDRR. A Kill/Death/Revive ratio. Who cares if he dies 4 times if he revives 12 people on your squad. That's a KDRR of 3:1, and he is more beneficial to your team than a guy who has a 2.5:1 KDR who just shoots stuff.

So full of fail, that original post.

OK, those 'hang back and kill other people while not caring about the battle' snipers you mentioned... how is it 'they don't count' with KDR if they're killing 7+ people per game with 0 or 1 deaths? I thought you said this was all about killing the other team more efficiently... is that not the case with the sniper?

Furthermore, I suggest we take this argument and stretch it to its logical extreme. Let's just ban everyone who has a KDR of less than 1. What would happen?

Well... in a few short ban-cycles, there would be no-one left in the game. Why?

Because it's a sliding scale, that's why. If you got rid of all the 'crappy' players with less than 1 KDR, once people start gaming again, there will be even more players with less than 1.0. You can't have a guy with 2 or higher positive KDR without at least 2 guys with negative KDR, because that first guy had to be more efficient than others.

AKA: KDR is a ******** way to measure player skill.

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Still, the way I see it... Scouts and Heavies and Assaults exist to kill people, through different methods. While it's easy TO kill as Logi, that's not it's role.

Logis should have a KDRR. A Kill/Death/Revive ratio. Who cares if he dies 4 times if he revives 12 people on your squad. That's a KDRR of 3:1, and he is more beneficial to your team than a guy who has a 2.5:1 KDR who just shoots stuff.

KDR aka Killboard wh*res


its got balls all to do with how good your KDR is.
Its about how you came about that KDR did you spawn camp it or do something worth while in battles

Really ? We're talking about K.D.R in a respawn game ?? It's respawn..

I smell a socom vet

Sorry OP but you are wrong. I just played a game last night in which my team won. I was top player @ 8/4 on my team, the opposing team had at least 6 players with 11+ kills & we still won by a large margin. Simply because we managed to capture & most importantly defend, more objectives for a longer period of time. Hence we won & the team full of killers lost. At least half my team went negative, but they were playing for the win not the kills.