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Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.09.25 08:41:00 -
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And there has been no word. So are you really planning on letting the new PS3 owners experience Precursor? |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.09.25 08:46:00 -
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another intriguing thing is that the promotional code bundled with the PS3 says you will get an unlimited "APC" blueprint. Also, it says you get 2000 Aur wich doesnt make any sense with yesterday's inflation on AUR.
So, maybe this promotional code won't be usable until a set date.
I think you guys at CCP should communicate sooner than later about this. |
Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
1003
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Posted - 2012.09.25 08:48:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:another intriguing thing is that the promotional code bundled with the PS3 says you will get an unlimited "APC" blueprint. Also, it says you get 2000 Aur wich doesnt make any sense with yesterday's inflation on AUR.
So, maybe this promotional code won't be usable until a set date.
I think you guys at CCP should communicate sooner than later about this.
It's not an APC - and who-ever you got that information from has the reading level of a third grader. The side of the box very clearly mentions "Guristas Saga", which is a Faction LAV. |
GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2012.09.25 08:53:00 -
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Happy birthday !!!
Well, we want our gift now !!!
Just one word... and not SOON plz !!
Actually, the game is taking a big smash in the head : under 400 connected at the moment, and we didn't go through the 1000 this night....
Hurry wake up !!! |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.09.25 08:53:00 -
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These guys just don't know how to market their games properly. My guess, is that because EVE effectively advertises itself, they don't know how to advertise Dust, because they haven't had the proper experience.
I mean, if I look up an EVE fleet battle at school to show to one friend, next thing I know there are 10-15 people gathered around saying "Dude thats epic!" and all of a sudden there are 10-15 people that have been subject to free advertising.
Where as with Dust, there really isn't very much thats epic about it right now.... |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.25 08:54:00 -
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But I want a Guristas Saga BPO tooooo!
Sagas are epic wtf they doing giving out BPO of these /madface |
crazy space
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.09.25 09:08:00 -
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OMG last night and the night before me and my friend tried to play but go so many server fulls. O top of half of the games features being ready to launch with no announcement any day now all we can do is sit around and wonder why there wasn't a single story out of TGS, what the crap CCP. Just tell us the build is behind or something :/ |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.09.25 09:10:00 -
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there were stories, if you knew where to look. the Video with Torfi was great |
Drake Lyons
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.09.25 09:19:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:These guys just don't know how to market their games properly. My guess, is that because EVE effectively advertises itself, they don't know how to advertise Dust, because they haven't had the proper experience.
I mean, if I look up an EVE fleet battle at school to show to one friend, next thing I know there are 10-15 people gathered around saying "Dude thats epic!" and all of a sudden there are 10-15 people that have been subject to free advertising.
Where as with Dust, there really isn't very much thats epic about it right now....
Or...you know...it's a beta. Not a launched game. It's still in development and there seem to be plenty of excited people in and out of the beta itself. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.09.25 09:25:00 -
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Drake Lyons wrote:Or...you know...it's a beta. Not a launched game. It's still in development and there seem to be plenty of excited people in and out of the beta itself. Doesn't matter if it's beta. Would you wait til after you launched the game to advertise it? All I'm saying is that Dust doesn't have the backbone to create hype based off player stories, it needs advertisement, news of the future, and things of the sort. Right now CCP is saying very little about what they're actually doing, and a whole lot about what they want to do in the distant future. |
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Drake Lyons
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.09.25 09:37:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Drake Lyons wrote:Or...you know...it's a beta. Not a launched game. It's still in development and there seem to be plenty of excited people in and out of the beta itself. Doesn't matter if it's beta. Would you wait til after you launched the game to advertise it? All I'm saying is that Dust doesn't have the backbone to create hype based off player stories, it needs advertisement, news of the future, and things of the sort. Right now CCP is saying very little about what they're actually doing, and a whole lot about what they want to do in the distant future.
And my point is that a lot of interest has already been generated. These forums are more active than those of many launched games. There are corps already forming up. Clans from other games are showing a strong interest and looking to start corps. The game was a big hit at E3, TGS, and gamescon. They have a pretty good presence on facebook, youtube, and twitter, and are featured pretty frequently on the main Playstation blog as well as other mainstream gaming sites. What more can you suggest that they do at this point from a marketing perspective?
And of course they are being quiet. The game is still in development. We have a general idea of what to expect in the next patch, but not much specific beyond that. Why? Because the development roadmap - in specific terms - is based off of that next patch. So yes, all we know are generalities, because that's all that is certain. It's not like CCP has a finished launch-ready version of the game with complete features, graphics, items, etc. and is just stringing us along with incremental updates... |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.09.25 09:42:00 -
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Interest wont last without information and substance. CoD gathers interest, and delivers everything that those interested are looking for. Right now, Dust has interest, future plans (ideas), but no substance or information of what has already been accomplished. When we have real information, then the interest will matter. |
Drake Lyons
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.09.25 09:55:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Interest wont last without information and substance. CoD gathers interest, and delivers everything that those interested are looking for. Right now, Dust has interest, future plans (ideas), but no substance or information of what has already been accomplished. When we have real information, then the interest will matter.
...as a member of the beta, you have access to the substance.
...as a member of the public at large, you have access to information. Just as with any other game before launch. CoD didn't provide anything more than information in the form of trailers, discussions, and articles before they launched. DUST is actually doing more in that they are allowing for a very player-driven beta experience to drive development. |
Tarn Adari
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
157
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Posted - 2012.09.25 10:16:00 -
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Why do you all think you're entitled to anything? They don't have anything they want to talk about right now. Just because we are beta testers doesn't mean we have the right to be involved in the complete development process. We are essentially working for them and we are paid by having early access to the game. Do we really need one thread after the other, crying for attention and demanding information?
I got some news for you: We are NOT special. |
Drake Lyons
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.09.25 10:25:00 -
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Tarn Adari wrote:Why do you all think you're entitled to anything? They don't have anything they want to talk about right now. Just because we are beta testers doesn't mean we have the right to be involved in the complete development process. We are essentially working for them and we are paid by having early access to the game. Do we really need one thread after the other, crying for attention and demanding information?
I got some news for you: We are NOT special.
I wish I could just keep liking this post.
If CCP "broke their promise" and releases the patch a couple days late...so what? We are here at their invitation. Respect. |
Saiibot
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
142
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Posted - 2012.09.25 10:42:00 -
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If ccp keeps treating dust like its eve online on a console, it'll crash n burn quite rapidly |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.09.25 10:45:00 -
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Not once did CCP say it was definitely coming out this month. You people seriously need to chill out.
It'll get here when it gets here. |
Nick Phantom
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
91
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Posted - 2012.09.25 11:35:00 -
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People and their rumors. Just so people know there was not an update today and corporations have not been added. This was pretty much what I expected because there were no NEW patch notes about it other than a dev blog that didn't give a date. There will ALWAYS be patch notes before updates and they always have a date. Don't say something unless you know for a fact it's going to happen. Way to spread the rumors guys good job. |
Grenwal Hiesenberg
Shadow Company HQ
226
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Posted - 2012.09.25 11:45:00 -
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crazy space wrote:OMG last night and the night before me and my friend tried to play but go so many server fulls. O top of half of the games features being ready to launch with no announcement any day now all we can do is sit around and wonder why there wasn't a single story out of TGS, what the crap CCP. Just tell us the build is behind or something :/
Next time that happens, try this: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=37745&find=unread |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.09.25 12:10:00 -
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It does suck that Precursor is going to be the iteration of Dust a lot of new players will experience. The bugs/etc with this build are not going to be well-received. |
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Traky78
What The French
115
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Posted - 2012.09.25 12:27:00 -
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Just one word CCP!! |
crazy space
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.09.25 12:32:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Drake Lyons wrote:Or...you know...it's a beta. Not a launched game. It's still in development and there seem to be plenty of excited people in and out of the beta itself. Doesn't matter if it's beta. Would you wait til after you launched the game to advertise it? All I'm saying is that Dust doesn't have the backbone to create hype based off player stories, it needs advertisement, news of the future, and things of the sort. Right now CCP is saying very little about what they're actually doing, and a whole lot about what they want to do in the distant future. Right? why aren't they showing it off and hyping us up? There was TGS, why didn't they make a video showing us what they are working on? WHY? |
Drake Lyons
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.09.25 12:34:00 -
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crazy space wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Drake Lyons wrote:Or...you know...it's a beta. Not a launched game. It's still in development and there seem to be plenty of excited people in and out of the beta itself. Doesn't matter if it's beta. Would you wait til after you launched the game to advertise it? All I'm saying is that Dust doesn't have the backbone to create hype based off player stories, it needs advertisement, news of the future, and things of the sort. Right now CCP is saying very little about what they're actually doing, and a whole lot about what they want to do in the distant future. Right? why aren't they showing it off and hyping us up? There was TGS, why didn't they make a video showing us what they are working on? WHY?
Are you being sarcastic? Because there was both an interview and new footage shown at TGS... |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.09.25 13:08:00 -
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Drake Lyons wrote:crazy space wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Drake Lyons wrote:Or...you know...it's a beta. Not a launched game. It's still in development and there seem to be plenty of excited people in and out of the beta itself. Doesn't matter if it's beta. Would you wait til after you launched the game to advertise it? All I'm saying is that Dust doesn't have the backbone to create hype based off player stories, it needs advertisement, news of the future, and things of the sort. Right now CCP is saying very little about what they're actually doing, and a whole lot about what they want to do in the distant future. Right? why aren't they showing it off and hyping us up? There was TGS, why didn't they make a video showing us what they are working on? WHY? Are you being sarcastic? Because there was both an interview and new footage shown at TGS... Both of which gave very little new information. |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2012.09.25 13:09:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:another intriguing thing is that the promotional code bundled with the PS3 says you will get an unlimited "APC" blueprint. Also, it says you get 2000 Aur wich doesnt make any sense with yesterday's inflation on AUR.
So, maybe this promotional code won't be usable until a set date.
I think you guys at CCP should communicate sooner than later about this.
You do realize that they decoded over the weekend to change the currency, and that the marketing for the new PS3 was decided weeks ago I hope. Marketing can't be changed over night in the corporate world. Also, CCP has asked no speculation and everyone here wants CCP to address speculation about a build release date that CCP hasn't announced, and whose release date is documented nowhere, and is the result of rampant rumor. Everyone gets this right? If so, Carey on. |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2012.09.25 13:10:00 -
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Drake Lyons wrote:crazy space wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Drake Lyons wrote:Or...you know...it's a beta. Not a launched game. It's still in development and there seem to be plenty of excited people in and out of the beta itself. Doesn't matter if it's beta. Would you wait til after you launched the game to advertise it? All I'm saying is that Dust doesn't have the backbone to create hype based off player stories, it needs advertisement, news of the future, and things of the sort. Right now CCP is saying very little about what they're actually doing, and a whole lot about what they want to do in the distant future. Right? why aren't they showing it off and hyping us up? There was TGS, why didn't they make a video showing us what they are working on? WHY? Are you being sarcastic? Because there was both an interview and new footage shown at TGS...
The video was of the current build. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.09.25 13:12:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Drake Lyons wrote:crazy space wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Drake Lyons wrote:Or...you know...it's a beta. Not a launched game. It's still in development and there seem to be plenty of excited people in and out of the beta itself. Doesn't matter if it's beta. Would you wait til after you launched the game to advertise it? All I'm saying is that Dust doesn't have the backbone to create hype based off player stories, it needs advertisement, news of the future, and things of the sort. Right now CCP is saying very little about what they're actually doing, and a whole lot about what they want to do in the distant future. Right? why aren't they showing it off and hyping us up? There was TGS, why didn't they make a video showing us what they are working on? WHY? Are you being sarcastic? Because there was both an interview and new footage shown at TGS... The video was of the current build. Same maps, that doesn't mean same build. Though they didn't show off anything new besides the map the dropship was flying over. |
Drake Lyons
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.09.25 13:12:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Drake Lyons wrote:crazy space wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Drake Lyons wrote:Or...you know...it's a beta. Not a launched game. It's still in development and there seem to be plenty of excited people in and out of the beta itself. Doesn't matter if it's beta. Would you wait til after you launched the game to advertise it? All I'm saying is that Dust doesn't have the backbone to create hype based off player stories, it needs advertisement, news of the future, and things of the sort. Right now CCP is saying very little about what they're actually doing, and a whole lot about what they want to do in the distant future. Right? why aren't they showing it off and hyping us up? There was TGS, why didn't they make a video showing us what they are working on? WHY? Are you being sarcastic? Because there was both an interview and new footage shown at TGS... The video was of the current build.
Actually, if what IRC is saying is correct, it was of footage from a build newer than precursor, but not the TGS build.
Still - a newer build than current, showing progress. |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2012.09.25 13:28:00 -
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This is the problem. Everything we "know" is from a friend or someone one IRC. nothing from CCP. So why did people believe the build was last week? Because of the con in Japan. Why did people think the build was today? Because of the new PS3 dropping. No one at CCP has ever said it was coming and until I see CCP announce in writing then its not coming. |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
673
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:11:00 -
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Tarn Adari wrote:Why do you all think you're entitled to anything? They don't have anything they want to talk about right now. Just because we are beta testers doesn't mean we have the right to be involved in the complete development process. We are essentially working for them and we are paid by having early access to the game. Do we really need one thread after the other, crying for attention and demanding information?
I got some news for you: We are NOT special.
IM special! *strokes own cheek*
'tribal GOOD boy' *eats chalk* |
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Deadly Mitauchi
SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION
140
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:32:00 -
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Saiibot wrote:If ccp keeps treating dust like its eve online on a console, it'll crash n burn quite rapidly
News flash!!!! DUST 514 is Eve Online on a console.
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Drake Lyons
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:37:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:This is the problem. Everything we "know" is from a friend or someone one IRC. nothing from CCP. So why did people believe the build was last week? Because of the con in Japan. Why did people think the build was today? Because of the new PS3 dropping. No one at CCP has ever said it was coming and until I see CCP announce in writing then its not coming.
Wel, my statement regarding the video was actually from CCP Frame via IRC. So it's not all speculation. But until we have patch notes posted... |
Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
323
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:58:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:These guys just don't know how to market their games properly. .
I look at this two ways;Yeah,they aren't doing much advertising of the game,but you have to ask yourself why?
Maybe it's because they figure,why do mass advertising on a game that isn't even finished yet?Maybe they are hard at work getting their crap together so that they don't have to patch the game within the first few days of launch,like 90% of shooters today.If this is the case,then I applaud them for that.
Secondly,maybe there's something in their deal with Sony stating that Sony will do all of the advertising,meaning that Sony will bear the majority of the cost to advertise the game.While this game will be connected to EVE,the one thing that EVE has going for it is that it's subscription based.Technically,even though Dust is F2P and is microtransaction based,there was a mathematical potential for Dust to not make one penny off of players.While people have spent money on AUR and the Merc Pack,there's pretty much no way that they will make nearly anything close to what they would've made had it been a $60 game.
So back to my point,If Sony is in charge of marketing and advertising this game,you can bet that they will do the absolute minimum considering that the short returns just won't be there,yet making Dust not very economically viable.Now I think that they are banking on long term returns through micro transactions,that will carry over into the next console generation.
If they can get a 50k+ people to spend an average of $5 per week for,say seven years(the supposed time it takes to fully upgrade a character's skills),well,it's a huge win for them then,to the tune of $13,000,000/per year with a grand total of $91,000,00.Let's just assume that Sony takes half of that cut just for CCP being on PSN,well,$6.5 million per year isn't a COD haul by any stretch,but for a game that's F2P that Sony doesn't really have to do much work for,not bad for them.
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Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.09.25 15:00:00 -
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Microtransaction games are often extremely profitable, so I'm not sure I see your point... at all... |
General Stonewall
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
23
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Posted - 2012.09.25 16:11:00 -
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statically F2P MMOs make way more money in general than P2P MMOs do so the guys above doesn't make much sense or least imo it doesn't i know you F2P over P2P MMOs making more money is debatable but statistics don't lie at least majority of the time anyway . micro transactions are perfect way for them to make their money back but with them jacking prices i don't see myself buying anymore aur until they fix their major bug problems so new build which i would like too see but if its going to cause more problems then no . but i would like them to fix majority of their problems like the lag and invalids along with a few other problems before they do anything else . until CCP does that not getting another red cent out of me .
far as new build goes i don't really care but ive been expected since you can simply put two and two together with Sony marketing this game with the new model ps3s so all n all you can assume new build would be soon for the newer Croud of folks coming in as of today if not its going to be a boring bumpy ride for them and maybe a big turn off for them as well . for me i would like to see it for the fact is same old maps death match a bazillion times and objective matches being 1 in every 50 matches is just crazy and gets boring after few hours of play i love the game but now i can't stand to play more than 2-4 hrs at a time without not taking a break in between use to be double that non stop w/o breaks . but same ol same ol is getting lame .CCP out with it soon already i know you make no promises but c'mon man get with it already . |
Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
323
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Posted - 2012.09.25 16:22:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Microtransaction games are often extremely profitable, so I'm not sure I see your point... at all... My point was in regards to your question.Try reading it next time.BTW,this is the first time that a we are seeing micro transactions in an MMO shooter on console,so I wouldn't extrapolate whatever statistics that you have into Dust.
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Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
323
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Posted - 2012.09.25 16:28:00 -
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General Stonewall wrote:statically F2P MMOs make way more money in general than P2P MMOs do so the guys above doesn't make much sense or least imo it doesn't i know you F2P over P2P MMOs making more money is debatable but statics don't lie at least majority of the time anyway . micro transactions are perfect way for them to make their money back but with them jacking prices i don't see myself buying anymore aur until they fix their major bug problems so new build which i would like too see but if its going to cause more problems then no . but i would like them to fix majority of their problems like the lag and invalids along with a few other problems before they do anything else . until CCP does that not getting another red cent out of me .
Please name them and show numbers,but regardless of that,I'm not even disputing which one makes more money anyway.Part of what you aren't taking into account is that you can pretty much bet that Sony has their hands in the pocket of CCP's micro transaction earnings,which is why I said that short term,it's not huge profits,but long term it is.
If COD comes out every year,as it already does,and makes one billion dollars in 16 days like MW3,then how do you figure that Dust comes close to that?Remember,this IS a shooter first,and in a gaming space that is very fickle.
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Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.09.25 16:38:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:Please name them and show numbers
http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/01/06/turbine-lotro-revenue-tripled-since-going-f2p/
Lord of the Rings Online has made 3x as much money since becoming F2P. It isn't a coincidence that so many MMOs are going this route. People don't like paying monthly fees. They do like paying small amounts for cosmetic stuff, convenience stuff, and new content. If you read about the musings of MMO developers on this issue, it's clear that F2P is the future of these games. |
Corban Lahnder
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
158
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Posted - 2012.09.25 16:52:00 -
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I hope they let the new ps3 owners into the current build bugs and all.
They need to learn the ccp philosophy to building games.
"Heres are most recent build... ...now go **** yourself."
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Jin Robot
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2012.09.25 17:13:00 -
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Its going to be okay. I dont see why people thought the 25th held any significance. |
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Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2012.09.25 17:22:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Its going to be okay. I dont see why people thought the 25th held any significance.
Because CCP is giving out a new "merc pack" type package with the new PS3, that this must mean a new build is coming as well. |
Jin Robot
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2012.09.25 17:40:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Its going to be okay. I dont see why people thought the 25th held any significance. Because CCP is giving out a new "merc pack" type package with the new PS3, that this must mean a new build is coming as well. I dont see the correlation, where are you seeing it stated that the new build will release with the bundle? |
Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
323
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Posted - 2012.09.25 17:44:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Th3rdSun wrote:Please name them and show numbers http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/01/06/turbine-lotro-revenue-tripled-since-going-f2p/Lord of the Rings Online has made 3x as much money since becoming F2P. It isn't a coincidence that so many MMOs are going this route. People don't like paying monthly fees. They do like paying small amounts for cosmetic stuff, convenience stuff, and new content. If you read about the musings of MMO developers on this issue, it's clear that F2P is the future of these games.
Thank you for following up.Again though,this isn't a regular MMO,nor is it on PC,so the established model for F2P on PC may not be the same for console shooters.Just something to take into account.
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Mr TamiyaCowboy
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
121
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Posted - 2012.09.25 17:58:00 -
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was going to log in but i wanted to ask CCP this first before i even bothered turning on the ps3.
Have you fixed dust yet ? all the invalid fittings and etc etc etc ? i guess i can answer that without logging in ? answer would be NO ?
well thats why your Player count is falling downwards, and the reason i am enjoying my break from brokendust.
<3 Tami, sitting at home relaxing with a hot cuppa and my eve client |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.09.25 18:03:00 -
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Well done you know what date it is |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1592
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Posted - 2012.09.25 18:05:00 -
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My frakking god! People, what is up with you. Earlier I asked CCP about addressing the speculation, but then I remembered, this speculation is our own doing. CCP never announced the date of the new build. So why are we still acting like CCP promised anything when nothing was promised? |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.25 18:58:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Its going to be okay. I dont see why people thought the 25th held any significance. Because CCP is giving out a new "merc pack" type package with the new PS3, that this must mean a new build is coming as well. I dont see the correlation, where are you seeing it stated that the new build will release with the bundle?
It doesn't at all. People are reading between lines that don't exist. They don't understand how CCP can invite more people to the Beta without a new build coming out. Conclusions. Leaps. Etc.
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Jin Robot
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2012.09.25 19:01:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Its going to be okay. I dont see why people thought the 25th held any significance. Because CCP is giving out a new "merc pack" type package with the new PS3, that this must mean a new build is coming as well. I dont see the correlation, where are you seeing it stated that the new build will release with the bundle? It doesn't at all. People are reading between lines that don't exist. They don't understand how CCP can invite more people to the Beta without a new build coming out. Conclusions. Leaps. Etc. Yeah, thats what I thought. Just reading some of these posts makes it seem like ccp said something, I mean so many people are really worked up. |
howard sanchez
Conspiratus Immortalis
448
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Posted - 2012.09.25 19:31:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Its going to be okay. I dont see why people thought the 25th held any significance. Because CCP is giving out a new "merc pack" type package with the new PS3, that this must mean a new build is coming as well. I dont see the correlation, where are you seeing it stated that the new build will release with the bundle? It doesn't at all. People are reading between lines that don't exist. They don't understand how CCP can invite more people to the Beta without a new build coming out. Conclusions. Leaps. Etc. Yeah, thats what I thought. Just reading some of these posts makes it seem like ccp said something, I mean so many people are really worked up. So, why the **** are you apologizing or supporting CCP in any way for notcommunicating with the beta test population?
Did CCP say 25sep would see a new build? No, we supposed that. Why? Because ccp was saying Nothing.
That is the problem. And to all of you people suggesting that CCP 'owes' the community nothing... I agree, they owe us nothing
And if nothing is what they choose to deliver then they can expect the same in return
A beta test period is, first and foremost, supposed to be about collaboration, testing, iteration and COMMUNICATION
Can they choose to stay hush hush and give poor or little to no feedback? Hell yes they can. You don't see us asking for $ back.
A lot of people in this beta (myself included) are not upset with the pace or progress of development - we are upset with the vacuum of information and lack of collaboration that CCP has opted to go forward with
We want to test. We want tobe a part of DUSt's development and roll out.
We are stating that it is very hard to do that without word of what is happening, when and how
Just looking for a few Dev posts to explain what's up, how the schedule is looking, what we can expect...
Not asking for the moon, not demanding changes or schedules based on our expectations. Just want tobe more informed than we currently are.
Is that unreasonable? |
Jin Robot
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2012.09.25 19:44:00 -
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Why are you quoting me and then swearing and ranting at me? Howard? Just because I am not a spoiled and entitled person doesnt make me your enemy. I choose not to rant and cry, is that so bad? |
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crazy space
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.09.25 19:48:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:My frakking god! People, what is up with you. Earlier I asked CCP about addressing the speculation, but then I remembered, this speculation is our own doing. CCP never announced the date of the new build. So why are we still acting like CCP promised anything when nothing was promised?
they said September
That's confrimed. Then a big game show 6 days before the end of the month, no news. Are you blind? |
howard sanchez
Conspiratus Immortalis
448
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Posted - 2012.09.25 20:35:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Why are you quoting me and then swearing and ranting at me? Howard? Just because I am not a spoiled and entitled person doesnt make me your enemy. I choose not to rant and cry, is that so bad? Sorry Jin, not really ranting at You. There were just a few lines in that thread that inspired my emotional post
To be clear, i am less upset today with CCP than I was on friday. And i am not upset with any particular players. I just feel strongly that this isn't the way to manageable community or develop a game with a community test group. I feel like CCP knows better and it is frustrating.
My apologies if I came across wrong.
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howard sanchez
Conspiratus Immortalis
448
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Posted - 2012.09.25 20:45:00 -
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So, I guess my frequent posts regarding what I see as ccp's less than stellar efforts at good community manage met have come across as entitled and spoiled whining.
Such was never my intent.
In the interest of fostering a more peaceful and less frustrated community I will stop posting my opinions about ccp's performance.
I love dust, eve and the opportunity to be a part of something new and different in the MMO industry.
I have let my fervor and personal perspective detract from the efforts of this game company and my fellow testers. |
Jin Robot
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2012.09.25 20:48:00 -
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howard sanchez wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Why are you quoting me and then swearing and ranting at me? Howard? Just because I am not a spoiled and entitled person doesnt make me your enemy. I choose not to rant and cry, is that so bad? Sorry Jin, not really ranting at You. There were just a few lines in that thread that inspired my emotional post To be clear, i am less upset today with CCP than I was on friday. And i am not upset with any particular players. I just feel strongly that this isn't the way to manageable community or develop a game with a community test group. I feel like CCP knows better and it is frustrating. My apologies if I came across wrong. No problem man. For a second I thought I must have posted something really offensive then forgot about it. I was just trying to get clarification on what info is out. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1592
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Posted - 2012.09.25 20:48:00 -
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crazy space wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:My frakking god! People, what is up with you. Earlier I asked CCP about addressing the speculation, but then I remembered, this speculation is our own doing. CCP never announced the date of the new build. So why are we still acting like CCP promised anything when nothing was promised? they said September That's confrimed. Then a big game show 6 days before the end of the month, no news. Are you blind?
No, not blind. They never said the exact date and yet people are acting as if the 25th was the date based on some minor announcement about the new PS3 posted by Sony who has absolutely no control over DUST development. Just because DUST was featured in events like the Tokyo Game Show it doesn't mean anything about when the game is released. All that matters is what CCP says.
Sony may be helping CCP with advertising, but they are not CCP when it comes to when or how DUST is developed. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1592
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Posted - 2012.09.25 20:56:00 -
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PS: We still have five days until the end of the month. |
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