The only problem is that camping Edited will still be around, but at least the people who are constantly dead will be gone.

One of the reasons I like Dust is its built in anti-idiot feature.

I run a logi fitting that costs about 45,000 ISK a suit. So that means I have to be very intelligent about how I play. 4 deaths means I probably am losing money. However, I am decent at the game so it usually isn't a problem. However, people who run expensive fits and die all the time because they are Edited, will go broke quickly.

Being broke --> militia fits ---> quit

The only problem is that camping Edited will still be around, but at least the people who are constantly dead will be gone.

Enjoy your empty game world, you need to have people be it idiots or not to play the game to make it succeed

One of the reasons I like Dust is its built in anti-idiot feature.

I run a logi fitting that costs about 45,000 ISK a suit. So that means I have to be very intelligent about how I play. 4 deaths means I probably am losing money. However, I am decent at the game so it usually isn't a problem. However, people who run expensive fits and die all the time because they are stupid, will go broke quickly.

Being broke --> militia fits ---> quit

The only problem is that camping idiots will still be around, but at least the people who are constantly dead will be gone.

Being broke --> militia fits ---> top kd/r for my team

This may be the case now but when the market gets up and running combined with being able to transfer ISK from Eve, a 75k suit will be a drop in the bucket.

They're going to let people transfer money from their EVE accounts? This game is ruined.

Not for a while, likely 6 months to a year after release.

A delay won't stop the game from being ruined

Guess you'll just have to learn how to play politics, or be used as a pawn in the bigger game

;)

Still you're ignoring the fact that any kind of isk transfer will ruin the game

Still you're ignoring the fact that any kind of isk transfer will ruin the game

I whole-heartedly disagree. A smaller, dedicated player-base is much more interesting to play against.

If you hate playing good people, then I can see where you are coming from. However, I don't see the appeal in beating up on people who are worse than you. I like my wins to be earned, not handed to me on a noob platter.

I whole-heartedly disagree. A smaller, dedicated player-base is much more interesting to play against.

If you hate playing good people, then I can see where you are coming from. However, I don't see the appeal in beating up on people who are worse than you. I like my wins to be earned, not handed to me on a noob platter.

What are you guys talking about? Small player base pfft.
Do you know how many people were awarded 1M SP for participating in the last event? Over 41,000 players.
That's over 41,000 players who logged in during a 1 hour interval on a closed beta with a crap build.

Now think how many there will be on release and in the first year alone.

PS, I have these numbers from a conversation on IRC. They are sound.

Enjoy your empty game world, you need to have people be it idiots or not to play the game to make it succeed

That's why Eve has so many daily players right..?

Everyone in the beta got the 1M SP.

Ontopic: Militia fits are no reason to quit. I played 5 matches this evening with nothing but militia gear and averaged a kdr of 3. That's with 6 million SP, 2 mil. of which I got from events. To be honest I think most of my victories in 1-on-1 situations are actually due to my understanding of/experience with the effects of lag, which makes me sad.

Offtopic: Eve doesn't appear very difficult at all. When I messed about with it the tutorials really held my hand for a whole 2 week period. I guess Eve's reputation from earlier days is just hard to get rid of. Right now Dust is much tougher to understand in comparison.

It doesn't have many subscribers. Over 400,000 as of March this year. That's quite low. But its subscribers are pretty loyal I guess, so what it lacks in broad appeal it makes up for in really being attractive to a certain niche of players.

That's not low at all. You can't compare subscriber numbers for MMOs to WoW because it has far more than any MMO past or present. EVE has been steadily growing for about ten years and for a non-WoW MMO has a decent number of subscribers.

A delay won't stop the game from being ruined

It doesn't have many subscribers. Over 400,000 as of March this year. That's quite low. But its subscribers are pretty loyal I guess, so what it lacks in broad appeal it makes up for in really being attractive to a certain niche of players.

Anyway, to the topic at hand, gloating over the game being unforgiving and inaccessible is stupid. CCP should not make that a hallmark of theirs. EVE's opacity is a mistake. A major flaw in the game. Dust should be appealing to people whether they're good at FPS games or not. That doesn't mean sacrificing core principles, but it does mean creating stuff like "beginner servers" or whatever you'd call it, so that new players are not overwhelmed and dominated until they quit the game.

Every character that participated in a corp vs corp match got the bonus...if they handed out 41,000 bonuses and everyone did what I did then that's just under 14,000 players during those three days of a 1 1/2 hr window.

Incorrect. Everyone got the 1M SP and ISK.

Huh....mine must still be on back order....

If you had a character that's existed since the corp battle, you were supposed to get the bonus. If you did not, I would suggest you contact [email protected]. i, nor anyone I regularly play with participated in the corp battles, and we all received the bonus. Also, the post from the devs was clear that "all corps" would receive the bonus, not just players who participated in the battles.

Oh you're just talking about the first one, not the rest of them. ::shrugs:: The point remains, this game is going to have a massive player base. It'll fluctuate, sure, but it's gonna be massive.

EVE isn't actually that difficult. Its simply different to the usual games.

I don't have any interest discussing the semantics of what EVE is. Learning curve, "not user friendly", whatever the **** ever. Everyone who's ever played knows what I meant.

I whole-heartedly disagree. A smaller, dedicated player-base is much more interesting to play against.

If you hate playing good people, then I can see where you are coming from. However, I don't see the appeal in beating up on people who are worse than you. I like my wins to be earned, not handed to me on a noob platter.

Smaller player base = niche game = low population= server turned off because ccp arn't going to pay for somethning thats not being used. You can get away with this on pc because of the subs but the console market is very fickle
Love the way people describe players as noobs because they are better or think they are. Enjoy your empty game world if thats what you thing of your fellow players