DUST Search - Game is causing physical damage to my ps3 check the pics

Dane Stark wrote:

Guydon Antllies wrote:

i've experienced this multiple times... it has never truly damaged my system, i have a MGS4 PS3 model.... and im still going strong with this beta.... it wont really cause any harm... and if it truly does..... LETS GET EM..... but ive been testing since early june baby..... and trust me... it's gotten alot better than it use to be

Yeah, so...here's the deal. I'm sure the EULA states something along the lines that CCP is not responsible for any damage to equipment due to our agreement to help them test etc etc etc...

I would suggest, if you are adverse to changing a hard drive or are not backing up your data files so as to recover from a HDD crash, then yes, I would halt testing until you are prepped for such an event. Or have 2 PS3's and don't care if one crashes or the like. It is the nature of this kind of testing. Not to get too OT, but any kind of software testing that involves devices such as android or iOS devices, all beta platforms are subject to the royal scrooge! You gotta be willing to risk it. They won't release until the system locks are resolved I hope, but they are smart guys. I think they would know better. So...get some backups going, a few extra dollars to insure your HDD (replacement value) and test hard!

Just some thoughts - hope they provided some insight. Smile

BIG EDIT: I am in no way, shape, or form implying that DUST will crash HDD...I am simply helping those that may not have thought about what to do to help ensure they are covered in the event of unrecoverable failures.

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Cernee Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2012.09.20 16:02:00 - [1] - Quote Some may say its only beta whatever BUT when that Beta test is actually causing physical harm TO THE SYSTEM its being played on regardless of beta or not you will lose MANY people to a game that does the following to a console system i have not had this issue with any other games only this one below are 2 pictures of the loading screen before a battle. Tv is brand new led 32" hdtv, console is less than 1 year old. when your game does this to a console and freezes like this which forces me to reset the console i then get a "your system was not shut down properly and needs to be scanned for corrupted files" its not what a console player wishes to see http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc186/g_Cerne/091712_160100_zps54239f13.jpg http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc186/g_Cerne/091712_160101_zps1b3c2863.jpg
Guydon Antllies HoloSec Armaments and Security 51	Posted - 2012.09.20 19:06:00 - [2] - Quote i've experienced this multiple times... it has never truly damaged my system, i have a MGS4 PS3 model.... and im still going strong with this beta.... it wont really cause any harm... and if it truly does..... LETS GET EM..... but ive been testing since early june baby..... and trust me... it's gotten alot better than it use to be
Cernee Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2012.09.20 19:27:00 - [3] - Quote Well i have not had any corrupt files as of yet however forcing to pull the plug due to your system is locked up from a game and forcing it to have to do that scan is not typical wanted behavior from a console game and can not be good for your system in general. it has also randomly at times restarted my ps3 without my permission it definitely needs to be fixed and i just got an email in regards to dust 514 so in other words you buy a ps3 it comes with beta access to a game that can cause these sorts of problems with your system...not a good selling point in my view who would want to be a console with a glitchy game to be included that. At this year's Tokyo Game Show, Sony unveiled a sleek new PlayStation-«3, which includes DUST 514Gäó beta access and $30 worth of bonus items. CCP is at the Tokyo Game Show as well, so stop by to try out DUST 514, while you decide between the 250GB or 500GB HDD model of this awesome new PS3 bundle.
Jaric Kieranson Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 12	Posted - 2012.09.21 04:05:00 - [4] - Quote You know what? You agreed to this to be able to play in the beta: 3.2 Participant Acknowledgements (a) Participation in the GameGÇÖs Private Trials Evaluation is purely voluntary and no compensation of any kind will be provided to Participant in exchange for Feedback or any other for services as a volunteer tester. Participant may stop being a volunteer at any time. (b) Participant acknowledges the Private Trials Copy is Private Trials-version software that is not complete, has not been fully-tested by CCP, and is not ready for sale to the general public. The Private Trials Copy may have bugs and other problems that make it unplayable, and that could potentially cause damage to ParticipantGÇÖs computer equipment. Participant agrees that, to the maximum extent permitted by applicable law, CCP and its affiliates disclaims all liability to you for any problems you have regarding the Private Trials Copy or your participation in the Private Trials Evaluation, or for any damage that the Private Trials Copy may cause. Short story: They already know this could happen. Deal with it.
Timothy Reaper ZionTCD Legacy Rising 321	Posted - 2012.09.21 04:43:00 - [5] - Quote You have to be careful what you agree to... http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/382785/im-gonna-clickdecline
Cernee Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2012.09.21 04:51:00 - [6] - Quote Timothy Reaper wrote: You have to be careful what you agree to... http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/382785/im-gonna-clickdecline cant view this im in canada
Cernee Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2012.09.21 04:57:00 - [7] - Quote Jaric Kieranson wrote: You know what? You agreed to this to be able to play in the beta: 3.2 Participant Acknowledgements (a) Participation in the GameGÇÖs Private Trials Evaluation is purely voluntary and no compensation of any kind will be provided to Participant in exchange for Feedback or any other for services as a volunteer tester. Participant may stop being a volunteer at any time. (b) Participant acknowledges the Private Trials Copy is Private Trials-version software that is not complete, has not been fully-tested by CCP, and is not ready for sale to the general public. The Private Trials Copy may have bugs and other problems that make it unplayable, and that could potentially cause damage to ParticipantGÇÖs computer equipment. Participant agrees that, to the maximum extent permitted by applicable law, CCP and its affiliates disclaims all liability to you for any problems you have regarding the Private Trials Copy or your participation in the Private Trials Evaluation, or for any damage that the Private Trials Copy may cause. Short story: They already know this could happen. Deal with it. Are you aware that due to this being a beta we are supposed to give feedback well guess what my system having issues like this is feedback DEAL WITH IT. We are supposed to help with production this game now is given to you with the purchase of a system are you aware of that? If it is going to cause damage to the console why in gods name would anyone want to purchase the console? "At this year's Tokyo Game Show, Sony unveiled a sleek new PlayStation-«3, which includes DUST 514Gäó beta access and $30 worth of bonus items. " Do you really think a beta of this game and 30$ bonus items is going to compensate if the system is damaged due its use and promotion? below is the ad that's supposed to help "sell" this game and the console. New PS3 Includes DUST 514 At this year's Tokyo Game Show, Sony unveiled a sleek new PlayStation-«3, which includes DUST 514Gäó beta access and $30 worth of bonus items. CCP is at the Tokyo Game Show as well, so stop by to try out DUST 514, while you decide between the 250GB or 500GB HDD model of this awesome new PS3 bundle. Here's what you get! New Eden is a universe unlike any other in multiplayer gaming. The immortal Capsuleers of EVE Online-« GÇö and soon, the mercs of DUST 514 GÇö battle over a single galaxy spanning hundreds of stars, where one player's split-second decision could change thousands of destinies. Executive Producer Brandon Laurino hopped on IRC to talk to DUST 514 players about upcoming features. Read the transcript The DUST 514 beta is online 23/7. Play all day, every day (except for the 11:00-11:30 GMT daily maintenance window.) Find out more The DUST 514 Mercenary Pack GÇô a $50 value! - is available in the PSN Store for just $19.99. // 4,000 Aurum ($20.00 value) // Permanent Dropsuit and Weapon // Consumable Combat Supplies Hungry for beta access? Get into the game with the All Access pass included with your Mercenary Pack. Pick one up and play! More Merc Pack Info NOTE: The DUST 514 closed beta program is a private test of a work in progress. It is not a final product, nor is it indicative of final performance, frame rate, effects, or feature set. Please remember that if you choose to participate, everything associated with this test is confidential and may not be discussed outside of the DUST 514 closed beta forums. Your participation in the DUST 514 closed beta program is always subject to the EULA and Confidentiality Agreement. Thank you, The DUST 514 Team
Timothy Reaper ZionTCD Legacy Rising 321	Posted - 2012.09.21 04:59:00 - [8] - Quote How about this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ23kosLFec
Cernee Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2012.09.21 05:03:00 - [9] - Quote Timothy Reaper wrote: How about this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ23kosLFec lol i remember that episode that worked:)
Dane Stark Golgotha Group 178	Posted - 2012.09.21 05:11:00 - [10] - Quote Guydon Antllies wrote: i've experienced this multiple times... it has never truly damaged my system, i have a MGS4 PS3 model.... and im still going strong with this beta.... it wont really cause any harm... and if it truly does..... LETS GET EM..... but ive been testing since early june baby..... and trust me... it's gotten alot better than it use to be Yeah, so...here's the deal. I'm sure the EULA states something along the lines that CCP is not responsible for any damage to equipment due to our agreement to help them test etc etc etc... I would suggest, if you are adverse to changing a hard drive or are not backing up your data files so as to recover from a HDD crash, then yes, I would halt testing until you are prepped for such an event. Or have 2 PS3's and don't care if one crashes or the like. It is the nature of this kind of testing. Not to get too OT, but any kind of software testing that involves devices such as android or iOS devices, all beta platforms are subject to the royal scrooge! You gotta be willing to risk it. They won't release until the system locks are resolved I hope, but they are smart guys. I think they would know better. So...get some backups going, a few extra dollars to insure your HDD (replacement value) and test hard! Just some thoughts - hope they provided some insight. BIG EDIT: I am in no way, shape, or form implying that DUST will crash HDD...I am simply helping those that may not have thought about what to do to help ensure they are covered in the event of unrecoverable failures.

Cernee Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2012.09.21 05:20:00 - [11] - Quote Dane Stark wrote: Guydon Antllies wrote: i've experienced this multiple times... it has never truly damaged my system, i have a MGS4 PS3 model.... and im still going strong with this beta.... it wont really cause any harm... and if it truly does..... LETS GET EM..... but ive been testing since early june baby..... and trust me... it's gotten alot better than it use to be Yeah, so...here's the deal. I'm sure the EULA states something along the lines that CCP is not responsible for any damage to equipment due to our agreement to help them test etc etc etc... I would suggest, if you are adverse to changing a hard drive or are not backing up your data files so as to recover from a HDD crash, then yes, I would halt testing until you are prepped for such an event. Or have 2 PS3's and don't care if one crashes or the like. It is the nature of this kind of testing. Not to get too OT, but any kind of software testing that involves devices such as android or iOS devices, all beta platforms are subject to the royal scrooge! You gotta be willing to risk it. They won't release until the system locks are resolved I hope, but they are smart guys. I think they would know better. So...get some backups going, a few extra dollars to insure your HDD (replacement value) and test hard! Just some thoughts - hope they provided some insight. BIG EDIT: I am in no way, shape, or form implying that DUST will crash HDD...I am simply helping those that may not have thought about what to do to help ensure they are covered in the event of unrecoverable failures. "They won't release until the system locks are resolved I hope, but they are smart guys." They have already released it as a package if you purchase the new ps3 console yes it is still beta but why on earth would you advertise a beta if this has not been resolved yet. At this year's Tokyo Game Show, Sony unveiled a sleek new PlayStation-«3, which includes DUST 514Gäó beta access and $30 worth of bonus items. CCP is at the Tokyo Game Show as well, so stop by to try out DUST 514, while you decide between the 250GB or 500GB HDD model of this awesome new PS3 bundle.
supernet2 Opus Arcana Orion Empire 0	Posted - 2012.09.21 06:12:00 - [12] - Quote https://www.dropbox.com/s/bczj1zngs38puz2/2012-09-17%2006.11.44.jpg hrm... seeing as the recent few quick patches has created a EXTREMELY unstable build this lets people like me reverse engineers take apart the program. Im curious am i allowed to take apart the files, and rebuild the package to fix the broken links? I've tested this build including redownloading and reinstalling the game files, and out of the multiple tests run on multiple different ps3s, of slim, and ps3 fat versions, the 40gb, the original builds, and various other builds, each one it craped out and caused errors as displayed
Cortez The Killer Immobile Infantry 189	Posted - 2012.09.22 04:34:00 - [13] - Quote I've had this happen once before and twice today. None of these instances actually had any corrupted files so far but it is worrisome nonetheless. The three times it has happened, I was doing different things within the game so not seeing a common action to cause it.
Cernee Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2012.09.22 16:08:00 - [14] - Quote I decided its in my consoles best interest to just wait until they deal with this issue id rather not play a game that can potentially harm my system
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD Legacy Rising 33	Posted - 2012.09.22 20:19:00 - [15] - Quote Just because the screen wigs out doesn't mean it's harming your system. It's more then likely just corrupt data files or bad hardware from general use not from the game.
Cernee Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2012.09.22 20:41:00 - [16] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Just because the screen wigs out doesn't mean it's harming your system. It's more then likely just corrupt data files or bad hardware from general use not from the game. nah its not about the screen wigging out its about the fact the system does full lock up only solution is to pull the plug which causes the system to say "the system was not shut down properly a scan is needed to determine if there are any corrupted files" when these locks ups happen you can't even hold the power button down to shut down the system you have to unplug it right from the wall. which can not be good for the console espeicially if its a regular bug/error also the fact it only happens with dust no other game from my 2 stacks of games shows that it is caused infact by dust not my system as if it was the system it would happen with other games
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD Legacy Rising 33	Posted - 2012.09.23 19:45:00 - [17] - Quote Cernee wrote: nah its not about the screen wigging out its about the fact the system does full lock up only solution is to pull the plug which causes the system to say "the system was not shut down properly a scan is needed to determine if there are any corrupted files" when these locks ups happen you can't even hold the power button down to shut down the system you have to unplug it right from the wall. which can not be good for the console espeicially if its a regular bug/error also the fact it only happens with dust no other game from my 2 stacks of games shows that it is caused infact by dust not my system as if it was the system it would happen with other games Yeah but are your two stacks of games all (Half) closed beta..? I've had other games lock up on me even the PS3s internet browser will from time to time although I haven't used it too much lately.
Cernee Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2012.09.23 23:59:00 - [18] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Cernee wrote: nah its not about the screen wigging out its about the fact the system does full lock up only solution is to pull the plug which causes the system to say "the system was not shut down properly a scan is needed to determine if there are any corrupted files" when these locks ups happen you can't even hold the power button down to shut down the system you have to unplug it right from the wall. which can not be good for the console espeicially if its a regular bug/error also the fact it only happens with dust no other game from my 2 stacks of games shows that it is caused infact by dust not my system as if it was the system it would happen with other games Yeah but are your two stacks of games all (Half) closed beta..? I've had other games lock up on me even the PS3s internet browser will from time to time although I haven't used it too much lately. Of course there not beta i run a animal rescue don't have time to be a 100% of the time beta tester or have a way to get involved in that either. "Just because the screen wigs out doesn't mean it's harming your system. It's more then likely just corrupt data files or bad hardware from general use not from the game." i can play 10 hours straight on my system and not have any issues if it was corrupt data files it would be from this game wouldnt be from another i would say this for any beta if it was doing this how can it be a system that works flawlessly with 20+ other games i have and not with this one
XM 193 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.09.24 00:36:00 - [19] - Quote Cernee wrote: THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Just because the screen wigs out doesn't mean it's harming your system. It's more then likely just corrupt data files or bad hardware from general use not from the game. nah its not about the screen wigging out its about the fact the system does full lock up only solution is to pull the plug which causes the system to say "the system was not shut down properly a scan is needed to determine if there are any corrupted files" when these locks ups happen you can't even hold the power button down to shut down the system you have to unplug it right from the wall. which can not be good for the console espeicially if its a regular bug/error also the fact it only happens with dust no other game from my 2 stacks of games shows that it is caused infact by dust not my system as if it was the system it would happen with other games Do you know that you can hold the power button for 5 seconds when the system locks and it will shut down? Or am i reading wrong and that does not work for this lock up?
Cernee Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2012.09.24 00:41:00 - [20] - Quote XM 193 wrote: Cernee wrote: THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Just because the screen wigs out doesn't mean it's harming your system. It's more then likely just corrupt data files or bad hardware from general use not from the game. nah its not about the screen wigging out its about the fact the system does full lock up only solution is to pull the plug which causes the system to say "the system was not shut down properly a scan is needed to determine if there are any corrupted files" when these locks ups happen you can't even hold the power button down to shut down the system you have to unplug it right from the wall. which can not be good for the console espeicially if its a regular bug/error also the fact it only happens with dust no other game from my 2 stacks of games shows that it is caused infact by dust not my system as if it was the system it would happen with other games Do you know that you can hold the power button for 5 seconds when the system locks and it will shut down? Or am i reading wrong and that does not work for this lock up? Did not work for this lock up held power for over 1 minute only option was to unplug

From Costa Rica Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS. 66	Posted - 2012.09.24 00:46:00 - [21] - Quote Every time you start the game, you are asked if you want to play even knowing this can happen.
Cernee Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2012.09.24 01:28:00 - [22] - Quote From Costa Rica wrote: Every time you start the game, you are asked if you want to play even knowing this can happen. yup just like every time i start the game they ask us to report bugs and issues funny how thats what this is right?
Tyas Borg Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 112	Posted - 2012.09.24 14:41:00 - [23] - Quote I can understand people's comments if this was just a simple matter of rebooting. What the OP is describing is the hard lock up we get from time to time. The only way to resolve this is to flick the switch at the back of the PS3. The power button doesn't respond to the reboot, it beeps and just sits there flashing forever. If you have a slim model the error is compounded by the fact you HAVE to rip the power lead out or the plug from the wall, both of which are far from ideal solutions. Even once one of these procedures has been completed you can't simply press the PS button on the pad to reboot the system, it requires the manual power button on the PS3 for some reason. It's a pretty serious lockup as far as I'm concerned, nothing is worse for electronics than to be turned off mid operation. I know we signed up to this, but the OP has a very valid concern and "It's a beta" simply doesn't cut it in this case. This isn't a game breaking bug it's a potential PS3 breaking bug. In my eyes it should be CCP's number one concern as they'll not like small claims being brought against them if this is being packaged as a complete game and bundled with the new PS3.
Cernee Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2012.09.24 16:22:00 - [24] - Quote Tyas Borg wrote: I can understand people's comments if this was just a simple matter of rebooting. What the OP is describing is the hard lock up we get from time to time. The only way to resolve this is to flick the switch at the back of the PS3. The power button doesn't respond to the reboot, it beeps and just sits there flashing forever. If you have a slim model the error is compounded by the fact you HAVE to rip the power lead out or the plug from the wall, both of which are far from ideal solutions. Even once one of these procedures has been completed you can't simply press the PS button on the pad to reboot the system, it requires the manual power button on the PS3 for some reason. It's a pretty serious lockup as far as I'm concerned, nothing is worse for electronics than to be turned off mid operation. I know we signed up to this, but the OP has a very valid concern and "It's a beta" simply doesn't cut it in this case. This isn't a game breaking bug it's a potential PS3 breaking bug. In my eyes it should be CCP's number one concern as they'll not like small claims being brought against them if this is being packaged as a complete game and bundled with the new PS3. thankyou! finally someone that gets it :) this should be number 1 to deal with imo as well no one wants to spend 100's of dollars on a new system which includes a beta that can potentially damage the system
Jane DeArc Militaires Sans Jeux 87	Posted - 2012.09.24 16:40:00 - [25] - Quote That picture shows a static image and animation that are distorted at the data level. A picture of your tv screen will NEVER be able to show DAMAGE to your PS3, especially physical. Consider this for a moment. If there was physical damage to your PS3, wouldn't you see corruption or issues like this in ANY game, movie, app, or music you played? Not even mentioning your XMB. If it's happening ingame, it's far more likely that it's the game files which are in error. To test: go to XMB > Games > Game Data > find Dust 514 and delete it. Delete Dust 514 itself and reinstall clean. This will reinstall all files, including corrupt files (looks like some part of the rendering engine is screwed up), and as a result it should look fine.
Jane DeArc Militaires Sans Jeux 87	Posted - 2012.09.24 16:52:00 - [26] - Quote Tyas Borg wrote: I can understand people's comments if this was just a simple matter of rebooting. What the OP is describing is the hard lock up we get from time to time. The reboot is a soft power down, and the freeze forces a hard power down. There is no difference, except in one the PS3's overarching OS is busy and nonresponsive. This could be caused by a handful of things, but it's nothing to be concerned about. The worst you could be looking at is that the game was writing to hard drive (saving) and it corrupts part of the save. Considering how little data is locally stored, your biggest concern is losing your preferred settings ingame or having to reinstall Dust. Tyas Borg wrote: The only way to resolve this is to flick the switch at the back of the PS3. The power button doesn't respond to the reboot, it beeps and just sits there flashing forever. Sometimes you have to hold the power button for about 30 seconds, then wait a moment. It'll blink, beep then power down. Tyas Borg wrote: If you have a slim model the error is compounded by the fact you HAVE to rip the power lead out or the plug from the wall, both of which are far from ideal solutions. When that doesn't work, you do have to either pull the plug or wait for the system to safely reboot itself in the case of an error. Nothing really can help this sans them continuing to implement fixes. Tyas Borg wrote: Even once one of these procedures has been completed you can't simply press the PS button on the pad to reboot the system, it requires the manual power button on the PS3 for some reason. When hard powering down, there is no "last registered controller" so as a safety precaution you have to hard power it. Tyas Borg wrote: It's a pretty serious lockup as far as I'm concerned, nothing is worse for electronics than to be turned off mid operation. I know we signed up to this, but the OP has a very valid concern and "It's a beta" simply doesn't cut it in this case. This isn't a game breaking bug it's a potential PS3 breaking bug. In my eyes it should be CCP's number one concern as they'll not like small claims being brought against them if this is being packaged as a complete game and bundled with the new PS3. It's a serious CONSUMER issue (as in, I won't contribute time or money to this game if it doesn't address the issue causing reliably frequent errors that are fatal to the game process, or the infrequent system freezes) but not a serious HARDWARE issue. It being frozen is no harder on the hardware than anything else you could be doing and likely slightly easier than some terrible games (MGS4's repeated need to install huge portions of the game to disk and never having everything completely installed, thus straining the blu ray drive and hard drive). The hardware of the electronics are not damage, when you resume power they go through the same process they always do. Most of the software CANNOT be damage as it's part of the host os or the hypervisor, completely unaccessible for read/write. Your GAME data is at risk (game files or settings) but they are also disposable at no cost to us. Yes, this is beta and these things happen, but yes it is also valid to be dissatisfied with this and expect it to be gone in the final product. This (the "ps3 breaking bug bit) is just outright misinformation and scaremongering though. It will not damage your PS3 any more than turning on your PS3 and playing games will. Small claims in court may be raised against them, and if they pass it is only because there is no one educated involved in the claim, and thus CCP will pay for something no less "damaging" than turning off your DVD player or VCR in mid-movie, or utilizing the task manager on your windows computer, or of course being force-restarted on a mac.
Jin Robot Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 330	Posted - 2012.09.24 16:53:00 - [27] - Quote So where is this "physical damage"?
Cernee Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2012.09.24 17:02:00 - [28] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: So where is this "physical damage"? check the first posting and the 2 pics associated with it
Jane DeArc Militaires Sans Jeux 87	Posted - 2012.09.24 17:06:00 - [29] - Quote Cernee wrote: Jin Robot wrote: So where is this "physical damage"? check the first posting and the 2 pics associated with it What he means is that you're showing pictures of the TV. How can pictures of a TV screen show a PHYSICALLY broken ps3? Your screens themselves show that not only is the PS3 working, but it's running game data, even if the game data is bad and looks funky.
Cernee Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2012.09.24 17:09:00 - [30] - Quote Jane DeArc wrote: Cernee wrote: Jin Robot wrote: So where is this "physical damage"? check the first posting and the 2 pics associated with it What he means is that you're showing pictures of the TV. How can pictures of a TV screen show a PHYSICALLY broken ps3? Your screens themselves show that not only is the PS3 working, but it's running game data, even if the game data is bad and looks funky. i am not going to dismantle my system to show you the inards of my ps3 obviously i showed a picture of a serious lock up which forces me to unplug the system as holding down power does not work. this leads to a scan for potential corrupted data and the hard drive being damaged would you like picture of the hard drive? or me unplugging my system? i dont feel that is needed



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