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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.19 19:39:00 -
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I shoot the enemy MCC with a large railgun and it dies a bit fast with four folks shooting non stop from installations.
I think the MCC needs a bit of a health boost?? Or is it at the intended point?? |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.09.19 19:41:00 -
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lol |
D3LTA NORMANDY
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.09.19 19:42:00 -
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double lol |
Icy Tiger
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Posted - 2012.09.19 19:46:00 -
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triple lol |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.19 19:46:00 -
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My eyes are bleeding.
Also, combo breaker. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.19 19:46:00 -
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MCC testing numbers. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.19 19:47:00 -
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triple lol
Such a bad idea tho tbh |
Sees-Too-Much
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Posted - 2012.09.19 19:47:00 -
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LOL^2
Having people who do nothing but sit in a vehicle is bad gameplay. No fun at all. Infantry modules that support vehicles would make for an interesting addition. Something like point defense mods that shoot down incoming swarms or projected ECCM. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.09.19 19:48:00 -
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no comment |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.19 19:50:00 -
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NM. |
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Shiro Mokuzan
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Posted - 2012.09.19 19:52:00 -
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This makes no sense. It's a bad idea and you should feel bad. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.09.19 19:53:00 -
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Shiro Mokuzan wrote:This makes no sense. It's a bad idea and you should feel bad. ok for some reason this made me laugh irl |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.19 19:59:00 -
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NM. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.09.19 20:00:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:lol Gee such an "informative" post. Guess you missed the part where there were FIVE SINGLE driver HAVs running around a lot of matches?? And congrats again on the "post". It really "boosted" my HAV skills.
ughh well since u insist ill guess ill go deep in this again
i dont see how having ppl in ur tank magically makes ur armor and shields increase seems ppl seriously still dont get what exactly is teamwork
ppl think just because it takes one person to use a tank it doesnt take teamwork which for the 1000th time just shows me ppl dont play competitive and judge **** based on lolpubs organised play tanks take teamwork and alot in their current shape. with the av nerf the corp battles tronhadar had the very 1st one i played we had 3 tanks dropped on us none of our own all 3 tanks went down and this was during the av nerf that ppl so ***** and moan about my current tank when i do bring it out requires gunners to effectively operate if ppl saw how we utilise tanks they wont even think to say tanks never use teamwork
stop judging **** based on pubs with randomly assembled teams with a bunch of players with no comms, varying skillsets prob skilled up to get the best proto ARs and thukker nades and nothing into AV because the mentality of a pub player is to leave it for someone else on the team to change fit to deal with a tank cuz i cant get a kill on it solo
why cater to ppl who dont want to use teamwork? CCP needs to stop trying to balance a tank vs an infantry too much........its a TANK this is the ONLY vehicle game i have played with so many ppl moan all day about vehicles u dont see BF players moaning they got one shot by a tank....why? CUZ ITS A TANK a tank in BF pubs wont go down with a good 2 man crew same as my tanks wont go down even with this cripple nerf to infantry with a crew of my mates in it.
idk maybe BF trained me well, guess that game was good for something then.
there happy....got ur long drawn out reason which ive prob said in different ways on many posts on these forums for the past 2 days |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.09.19 20:02:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Shiro Mokuzan wrote:This makes no sense. It's a bad idea and you should feel bad. Yeah, yeah you are right! its not like if a clone has SHIELD MANAGEMENT at L5 and the HAV has 6000 HP and then the clone gets INSIDE the HAV and the HAV shield HP RISES!! Geez! and its not like on a game of skirmish where the enemy team had all the letters but I shot the enemy MCC with an installation railgun and they lost and we won. Its not the MCC that bends its the server game rules. ?... are you sure you do know how much hp an MCC has right? Or was the hp already low and your MCC's XL turrets took care of it. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.19 20:06:00 -
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NM, |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.19 20:11:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Shiro Mokuzan wrote:This makes no sense. It's a bad idea and you should feel bad. Yeah, yeah you are right! its not like if a clone has SHIELD MANAGEMENT at L5 and the HAV has 6000 HP and then the clone gets INSIDE the HAV and the HAV shield HP RISES!! Geez! and its not like on a game of skirmish where the enemy team had all the letters but I shot the enemy MCC with an installation railgun and they lost and we won. Its not the MCC that bends its the server game rules. ?... are you sure you do know how much hp an MCC has right? Or was the hp already low and your MCC's XL turrets took care of it.
Since I suck! at the game this leads me to testing the games envelope. Pre E3 build the MCC had 150 health at A, B and 180 health at A. B and C.
I singlehandedly won many matches using an installation railgun. The new MCC health buff is a response to that. But yes if folks focus fire on the MCC from installations this does cut down MCC shield and armour.
Critical if the enemy is holding all the letters. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.09.19 20:12:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:lol Gee such an "informative" post. Guess you missed the part where there were FIVE SINGLE driver HAVs running around a lot of matches?? And congrats again on the "post". It really "boosted" my HAV skills. ughh well since u insist ill guess ill go deep in this again i dont see how having ppl in ur tank magically makes ur armor and shields increase seems ppl seriously still dont get what exactly is teamwork ppl think just because it takes one person to use a tank it doesnt take teamwork which for the 1000th time just shows me ppl dont play competitive and judge **** based on lolpubs organised play tanks take teamwork and alot in their current shape. with the av nerf the corp battles tronhadar had the very 1st one i played we had 3 tanks dropped on us none of our own all 3 tanks went down and this was during the av nerf that ppl so ***** and moan about my current tank when i do bring it out requires gunners to effectively operate if ppl saw how we utilise tanks they wont even think to say tanks never use teamwork stop judging **** based on pubs with randomly assembled teams with a bunch of players with no comms, varying skillsets prob skilled up to get the best proto ARs and thukker nades and nothing into AV because the mentality of a pub player is to leave it for someone else on the team to change fit to deal with a tank cuz i cant get a kill on it solo why cater to ppl who dont want to use teamwork? CCP needs to stop trying to balance a tank vs an infantry too much........its a TANK this is the ONLY vehicle game i have played with so many ppl moan all day about vehicles u dont see BF players moaning they got one shot by a tank....why? CUZ ITS A TANK a tank in BF pubs wont go down with a good 2 man crew same as my tanks wont go down even with this cripple nerf to infantry with a crew of my mates in it. idk maybe BF trained me well, guess that game was good for something then. there happy....got ur long drawn out reason which ive prob said in different ways on many posts on these forums for the past 2 days Please look at passive skills and how they interact with vehicles. Oh and heads up the new Crusader suit has some nice skillsets that intersect the vehicle performance envelope.
dont u mean the pilot suits...? |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.09.19 20:14:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Since I suck! at the game this leads me to testing the games envelope. Pre E3 build the MCC had 150 health at A, B and 180 health at A. B and C.
I singlehandedly won many matches using an installation railgun. The new MCC health buff is a response to that. But yes if folks focus fire on the MCC from installations this does cut down MCC shield and armour.
Critical if the enemy is holding all the letters.
But not even with all the installations on the map along with several tanks you couldn't hope to match the dps of all the anti MCC cannons combined. |
Skytt Syysch
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
235
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Posted - 2012.09.19 20:20:00 -
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I can't wait to watch my tank blow up because the passengers get out to hack an objective and it lowers my tank's health. |
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.09.19 20:23:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Since I suck! at the game this leads me to testing the games envelope. Pre E3 build the MCC had 150 health at A, B and 180 health at A. B and C.
I singlehandedly won many matches using an installation railgun. The new MCC health buff is a response to that. But yes if folks focus fire on the MCC from installations this does cut down MCC shield and armour.
Critical if the enemy is holding all the letters. But not even with all the installations on the map along with several tanks you couldn't hope to match the dps of all the anti MCC cannons combined.
Perhaps if someone else posts about installations killing the MCC?
"wtf! was playing an objective match last night. my teams' MCC got down to like no health but at last minute we took over all objectives enemies MCC was also low health and even with all the objectives capped some ass in the enemy safe area, with a missle installation popped our MCC by himself!
wtf is that CCP? one man! one turret! out to conquer the universe?
i call bullshit on that defeat and i demand my soma fit back! lol"
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=37081&find=unread |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
369
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Posted - 2012.09.19 20:28:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Since I suck! at the game this leads me to testing the games envelope. Pre E3 build the MCC had 150 health at A, B and 180 health at A. B and C.
I singlehandedly won many matches using an installation railgun. The new MCC health buff is a response to that. But yes if folks focus fire on the MCC from installations this does cut down MCC shield and armour.
Critical if the enemy is holding all the letters. But not even with all the installations on the map along with several tanks you couldn't hope to match the dps of all the anti MCC cannons combined. Perhaps if someone else posts about installations killing the MCC? "wtf! was playing an objective match last night. my teams' MCC got down to like no health but at last minute we took over all objectives enemies MCC was also low health and even with all the objectives capped some ass in the enemy safe area, with a missle installation popped our MCC by himself! wtf is that CCP? one man! one turret! out to conquer the universe? i call bullshit on that defeat and i demand my soma fit back! lol" https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=37081&find=unread No. The MCC's have turrets shooting at each other. Those ended the game, not the guy in the installation.
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.09.19 20:29:00 -
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NM. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.09.19 20:32:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Since I suck! at the game this leads me to testing the games envelope. Pre E3 build the MCC had 150 health at A, B and 180 health at A. B and C.
I singlehandedly won many matches using an installation railgun. The new MCC health buff is a response to that. But yes if folks focus fire on the MCC from installations this does cut down MCC shield and armour.
Critical if the enemy is holding all the letters. But not even with all the installations on the map along with several tanks you couldn't hope to match the dps of all the anti MCC cannons combined. Perhaps if someone else posts about installations killing the MCC? "wtf! was playing an objective match last night. my teams' MCC got down to like no health but at last minute we took over all objectives enemies MCC was also low health and even with all the objectives capped some ass in the enemy safe area, with a missle installation popped our MCC by himself! wtf is that CCP? one man! one turret! out to conquer the universe? i call bullshit on that defeat and i demand my soma fit back! lol" https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=37081&find=unread No. The MCC's have turrets shooting at each other. Those ended the game, not the guy in the installation.
Tell ya what next few skirmishes I am going to just sit in installations and forego any SP or kills just to see someone else post about how the MCC died from a railgun or heavy missile. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
369
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Posted - 2012.09.19 20:35:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Since I suck! at the game this leads me to testing the games envelope. Pre E3 build the MCC had 150 health at A, B and 180 health at A. B and C.
I singlehandedly won many matches using an installation railgun. The new MCC health buff is a response to that. But yes if folks focus fire on the MCC from installations this does cut down MCC shield and armour.
Critical if the enemy is holding all the letters. But not even with all the installations on the map along with several tanks you couldn't hope to match the dps of all the anti MCC cannons combined. Perhaps if someone else posts about installations killing the MCC? "wtf! was playing an objective match last night. my teams' MCC got down to like no health but at last minute we took over all objectives enemies MCC was also low health and even with all the objectives capped some ass in the enemy safe area, with a missle installation popped our MCC by himself! wtf is that CCP? one man! one turret! out to conquer the universe? i call bullshit on that defeat and i demand my soma fit back! lol" https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=37081&find=unread No. The MCC's have turrets shooting at each other. Those ended the game, not the guy in the installation. Tell ya what next few skirmishes I am going to just sit in installations and forego any SP or kills just to see someone else post about how the MCC died from a railgun or heavy missile. Please do. I just hope you won't be on my team then.
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.09.19 20:38:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Skytt Syysch wrote:I can't wait to watch my tank blow up because the passengers get out to hack an objective and it lowers my tank's health. Yeah but a solution like that will cut down on HAV lone wolfs where its just the driver going 50 0.
@Skytt IKR LOL such a bad idea
@ tech tanks dont go 50/0 now and TBQH if u let ONE tank no matter pre nerf or post nerf go 50/0 YOUR team is terrible dont blame the tank because u were th only one running AV while ur randoms ran around with nothing |
Skytt Syysch
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
235
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Posted - 2012.09.19 20:42:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Skytt Syysch wrote:I can't wait to watch my tank blow up because the passengers get out to hack an objective and it lowers my tank's health. Yeah but a solution like that will cut down on HAV lone wolfs where its just the driver going 50 0.
It's a terrible solution in all honesty, simply for the reason I provided. Dropships would suffer even worse if 6 passengers jumped out to take over an area. This would hurt every vehicle, not just lone wolves. It'd weaken lone wolves, but actively harm anyone trying to use the vehicles as transport.
Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Tell ya what next few skirmishes I am going to just sit in installations and forego any SP or kills just to see someone else post about how the MCC died from a railgun or heavy missile.
Not sure if you've noticed, but the installations should have an efficiency rating of 0 against the MCCs, meaning they do no damage. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.09.19 20:57:00 -
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Skytt Syysch wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Skytt Syysch wrote:I can't wait to watch my tank blow up because the passengers get out to hack an objective and it lowers my tank's health. Yeah but a solution like that will cut down on HAV lone wolfs where its just the driver going 50 0. It's a terrible solution in all honesty, simply for the reason I provided. Dropships would suffer even worse if 6 passengers jumped out to take over an area. This would hurt every vehicle, not just lone wolves. It'd weaken lone wolves, but actively harm anyone trying to use the vehicles as transport. Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Tell ya what next few skirmishes I am going to just sit in installations and forego any SP or kills just to see someone else post about how the MCC died from a railgun or heavy missile.
Not sure if you've noticed, but the installations should have an efficiency rating of 0 against the MCCs, meaning they do no damage.
Ok agreed on the vehicles but the MCC part stands. Go test it and see for yourself.
140,000 MCC shield....shoots railgun....138,000....shoots railgun....136,000. Reaches armour......shoots railgun....until MCC reaches 0.
If its dumb but it hurts the MCC then its not dumb. Testing FTW.
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.09.19 21:11:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Since I suck! at the game this leads me to testing the games envelope. Pre E3 build the MCC had 150 health at A, B and 180 health at A. B and C.
I singlehandedly won many matches using an installation railgun. The new MCC health buff is a response to that. But yes if folks focus fire on the MCC from installations this does cut down MCC shield and armour.
Critical if the enemy is holding all the letters. But not even with all the installations on the map along with several tanks you couldn't hope to match the dps of all the anti MCC cannons combined.
Lets talk what ifs. If we had four deployable installations and three noobs wanting to help me out. DPS? Ok.
I spawn and hop into a large railgun and 2000 hp aprox. goes bye, bye, per shot as you run towards a letter then as it takes a while to control a letter and my team is also trying to control letters....yes??
Meanwhile as I continue to shoot your MCC it begins to loose shields as the DPS of continual fire mounts up. The lesson of the bees is this: A single bee sting on the MCC does nothing but a hundred bee stings will kill it.
2000 versus nullcannon 8000 is nothing but factor in continual fire at 2000 aprox. per second or so the entire match and it does help.
Now if I had three more total noobs on my team that instead of being dead, dead and dead! instead go for an installation and we do 8000 per shot then thats close to a nullcannon and add in continual fire the entire match from the get go! and thats the same as controlling two or more letters.
Just saying gun game or hav game is not the end all. |
Skytt Syysch
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
235
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Posted - 2012.09.19 21:26:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Ok agreed on the vehicles but the MCC part stands. Go test it and see for yourself.
140,000 MCC shield....shoots railgun....138,000....shoots railgun....136,000. Reaches armour......shoots railgun....until MCC reaches 0.
If its dumb but it hurts the MCC then its not dumb. Testing FTW.
Which map and installation were you using? I've tried before, and I have yet to see one that can actually hit an MCC. I'm not saying they definitely can't, but I haven't noticed any that do. Even driving my tank around I haven't gotten within range to have higher than zero efficiency rating, even with missiles which have a much longer range than railguns. |
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