As stated here, ISK variant is coming this week. Patience! :)

An ISK variant is on the way. We aim to have it in this week.

Cheers

CCP Wolfman

Finally people are catching up to this. I've said it from launch, those bastards are OP.

Even the "fused" locus grenades with 400 HP of damage and a range of 4 meters is borderlining OP. Don't get me wrong, I love them and I used to love the Cavity tuckers in the previous builds. I decided to stay away from them both this build, I don't want it to become a pillow for me.

I completely agree that these nades should be nerfed, seriously. Either cut the Tuckers out, let the people settle for the fused ones, or seriously reduse damage and range. I can imagine that a 300/3 setup (damage/range) should be more than enough.

If people only learned to **** the nades and estimate time/range, in short: Use skill when throwing their nades, we could have a great nade game. I've blown myself up over 50 times learning the timeing of the standard nades. i've gotten houndres of sweetly, skillfully placed nade kills wich is a lot seweeter than the somewhat cheap direct hit kills from previous builds.


DO WE REALLY WANT A GAME WERE DIRECT HIT NADES IS THE BE-ALL OF ANY CQC ENCOUNTER? I DON'T!!!

Range isnt the problem at all. Even worse it cleary says "hey, rush the guy and just screw him with your undodgable grenade"
People already complain that Zerg rush will probably be OP. It will be even worse with those.

All we'll see will be rush battle ending up at close range with ninja knife mercs, close range nade. Like Braveheart lol.

Okay, i'm exagerating a bit but i feel like doing that today ^^

With range I really mean "blast radius", if its too big, it will be even easier to use, thats all.

+100 000 000

Remove them now or nerf please.

Wonder if we would be in this position if dicks didn't ask for the suit nerf?

Just like think about it. Seriously.

suit nerf is a good idea. It helps to avoid replacing skill by skillpoints.
Blow on impact nades is a very different deal. It's about a playstyle that will for sure ruin gunfights at some point.

Well boys get prepared for insta death mayhem. Cavity thunkker grenades are coming out in a isk version also. For those who hated REs your going to really love these things because they are so much more effective.

I decided to throw these a whole match and was able to achieve 18-2 in ambush while the next highest score on my team was 4-10. I was able to hold my own against 8 guys at once with these babies. Oh I just can not wait for the spam that will be coming. :)

And no I am not against grenades just against explode on contact grenadess that do 600 damage so as long as you in there blast range your insta dead unless your running a heavy.

I believe 1 of 2 things needs to happen.

1. They do the same damage as a mass driver variant. So what do I mean by that. Well a advanced grenades does advanced damage worth of a mass driver. A proto type does proto type damage of a mass driver.

2. Just completely take them out of the game. Force people to actually cook grenades and use grenades with a little skill. not just throw for insta kills if anyone gets close.

Yes I know. Sorry, I forgot we dropped the mmo completely.

No I don't need these things to do well. I don't die over and over and ******* over to them either so I just sit back and keep watching the next flavour of the week qq thread.

Should we save ccp some time and just get them to stop working on the stronger OB now? A damn MOAB will wreck all proto suits. Can you say OP? Can you imagine the fairy dust 514 tears?

You guys enjoy the game you making. There is a clone coming out soon though. Even that game for ***** kids can have remote explosives.

hell no keep them in the game. Thats my only counter against scout sponge abusers. Allways if i see a scout running up to me i throw 1 to their feets with the following sentence: " nneeerrrrr! Sponging denied here catch!" as long scouts can even sponge 300 bullets from a HMG i will continue using them.

I'm miss it when it was only REs, CCP why do you insist on having an instant explosive kill button?

I don't understand why they can't just put in an explosive resistance skill.

They wont notice if you lot dont go forth and nade spam.

Didn't the OP send Deejae hate mail for using them, then start using them himself?

And for staying out of range on ambush on 2 of the maps that is impossible because all the fighting goes on in short range areas.

skill > skillpoints
a good player will **** no matter what
ppl in all proto gear stompin on newbies because they are demi gods isnt fun
this is an MMOFPS not an MMO
Planetside is the same, notice how in that game a high tier character still will die reasonably well to a new guy?
its about providing SMALL advantages not HUGE ones like before
this game is an FPS 1st and foremost and in any FPS it should be about SKILL rather than time invested giving u a huge leg up.

I think you are missing my point. I'll slow it down.

Last build when these grenades(exact ones) were around no one complained they were op because we all had suits that could handle it.

Ok you still with me?

Ok so dicks wanted the suit changed before seeing the whole game. CCP changed suits. All of a sudden...cavity thukkers is op...cause and effect.

Obviously if 1 aspect has been changed another will start rearing its ugly head.

Why don't we get rid of grenades completely? If we are going to have grenades that don't kill shouldn't we be calling them flashbangs or stun grenades. **** me it is a grenade after all.

A descent matchmaking system that seperates the scrubs from the skilled would solve the majority of these god damn op threads no?

The blast radius has also been reduced from 5.4 to 2.5. We'll see how that feels and make any further changes if we need to.

Cheers

CCP Wolfman