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Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
1003
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Posted - 2012.09.17 02:51:00 -
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Seriously, it shouldn't require another ****ing Jita riot to get something done around here.
Remove it from the market, or add a non-aurum variant. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.09.17 02:57:00 -
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Please post stats & stats of top competitors on the grenade market for our amusement.
Also, has anyone seen any high quality grenade salvage? |
Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
1003
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Posted - 2012.09.17 03:16:00 -
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Stats don't show direct damage, but we can kinda get the idea of why the hell everyone uses this KDR cop-out.
Locus Grenade - Splash: 400 -:- Radius: 6m -:- Ammo: 3 -:- CPU/PG: 9/2 -:- Cost: 1,400 isk
M1 Locus Grenade - Splash: 500 -:- Radius: 6.6m -:- Ammo: 3 -:- CPU/PG: 18/3 -:- Cost: 2,920 isk
Core Locus Grenade - Splash: 600 -:- Radius 7.2m -:- Ammo: 3 -:- CPU/PG: 48/6 -:- Cost: 18,760 isk
'Haze' Locus Grenade - Splash: 500 -:- Radius: 6.6m -:- Ammo: 3 -:- CPU/PG: 9/2 -:- Cost: 3 Aurum
'Shroud' M1 Locus Grenade - Splash: 600 -:- Radius: 7.2m -:- Ammo: 3 -:- CPU/PG: 48/6 -:- Cost: 3 Aurum
'Cavity' Thukker Locus Grenade - Splash: 600 -:- Radius 5.4m -:- Ammo: 3 -:- CPU/PG: 48/6 -:- Cost: 5 Aurum -:- SPECIAL ABILITY: Explodes on contact
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Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
1003
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Posted - 2012.09.17 03:17:00 -
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There needs to be an ISK version of a grenade that explodes on contact or this is a blatant contradiction to what was promised that nothing will be available for Aurum that you can't get with ISK.
Fix this. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.09.17 03:29:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Seriously, it shouldn't require another ****ing Jita riot to get something done around here.
Remove it from the market, or add a non-aurum variant.
it needs to be nerfed even if they add an ISK variant cuz it gives u no chance to react and is an insta kill
an insta explode nade should not be high dmg to kill instantly
scrubs just see u and instantly toss it to get kills takes no skill |
Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
369
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Posted - 2012.09.17 07:02:00 -
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^^ what Mavado said. Bringing out a ISK variant before nerfing the current one will be the most stupid thing ever. |
madd mudd
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Posted - 2012.09.17 07:15:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Seriously, it shouldn't require another ****ing Jita riot to get something done around here.
Remove it from the market, or add a non-aurum variant. it needs to be nerfed even if they add an ISK variant cuz it gives u no chance to react and is an insta kill an insta explode nade should not be high dmg to kill instantly scrubs just see u and instantly toss it to get kills takes no skill
perhaps reduce the splash damage/radius first... I mean a contact grenade that hits a person then kills them as a prototype weapon seems reasonable |
KingBabar
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
443
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Posted - 2012.09.17 09:11:00 -
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Welcome to the party, I posted this "problem" two months ago. If it were up to me, the direct hit nades would be restricted to the mercinary pack variety, meaning 400 splash damage and 4 meters, they're good enough, the Cavity tucker is borderlining OP and do we really want a game were direct hit nades are king of every cqc engagement?
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DOOMSDAYAKAHEINZ
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.09.17 12:41:00 -
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was astounded to see after being "hit " by one of these grenades that they are the only ones that explode on detonation.
in my opinion theY should either have isk version too , or get rid of it
This idiot yesterday killed me twice with these , without them he would be dead trust me , he won because he paid to win .
SORT IT !!!!! |
Lixet
The Craniac
Naloran Project
50
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Posted - 2012.09.18 03:53:00 -
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I say just get rid of it. It promotes the lack of grenade skills, motivating to spam instant grenades instead. |
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DarkShadowFox
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
238
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Posted - 2012.09.18 05:17:00 -
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No just add a F*cking ISK one and decrease the damage it does for both the aur and the isk one, there should be no reason why there are EXCLUSIVE AUR weapons that are more powerful. The creators of Dust even said this isnt a pay to win, why are you going back on your words now?! Huh? Oh whats that its not a pay to win, what blatent lies. |
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CCP Wolfman
C C P
C C P Alliance
105
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Posted - 2012.09.18 05:52:00 -
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An ISK variant is on the way. We aim to have it in this week.
Cheers
CCP Wolfman |
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Patches The Hyena
204
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Posted - 2012.09.18 06:23:00 -
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Oh great now everyone will use this ridiculous piece of kit. I much prefer you just get rid of them. |
Lixet
The Craniac
Naloran Project
50
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Posted - 2012.09.18 06:46:00 -
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Patches The Hyena wrote:Oh great now everyone will use this ridiculous piece of kit. I much prefer you just get rid of them.
Well. f... really was rather hoping that CCP just gets rid of it. It's pretty much the instant C4 remote explosives of CoD and Battlefield.
Let's be honest, how many people actually wants this crap in this game? |
Gridboss
BetaMax.
185
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Posted - 2012.09.18 07:13:00 -
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Patches The Hyena wrote:Oh great now everyone will use this ridiculous piece of kit. I much prefer you just get rid of them.
Honestly, I think they have a place in the game. But in their current state, they could certainly use a reduction in either explosion radius, damage, or possibly even both. There has to be a trade off somewhere for the ability to explode on contact, and skills or cost alone isn't enough. |
Talruum Tezztarozza
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
74
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Posted - 2012.09.18 07:33:00 -
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I don't mind explode on contact grenade. An isk version is also welcome. However it need to be toned down. It shouldn't be as powerful as normal grenade. It also shouldn't OhK person with full health in the same grade gear. Only heavily injured person should die to it. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.18 07:40:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:An ISK variant is on the way. We aim to have it in this week.
Cheers
CCP Wolfman
Massive fail. Just remove this rubbish from the game. Its just the same as RE but better I dont see how thats so hard for people to understand. Impact nades should be doing half the dmg if they are kept in.
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D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
130
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Posted - 2012.09.18 07:40:00 -
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Seeing as anyone can get it, it wouldn't be bad it would just make the 1 vs 1 battles alittle more quicker =) |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.18 07:49:00 -
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Yea stuff gungame lets just throw nades at eachother all day everyday. Since I started abusing this I got so lazy its really not doing me any favors. |
Seran Jinkar
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
214
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Posted - 2012.09.18 08:40:00 -
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Yeah it will be like a Mass Driver .. just effective ^^ |
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Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.09.18 08:41:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:An ISK variant is on the way. We aim to have it in this week.
Cheers
CCP Wolfman
Hmmmm, i'd rather have the entire "blow on impact" grenade type disappear instead... This will become over-used, like REs in the previous build. |
GAGAH-BOY BRAZIL
66
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Posted - 2012.09.18 09:43:00 -
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Mass Driver and Granade Contact - Overpower in the next build
If you put the grenade in vain ISK all use.
Excessively increase the use of PG / CPU this grenade, or just explode only in contact with the enemy. |
Altaree Draeden
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:29:00 -
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GAGAH-BOY BRAZIL wrote:Mass Driver and Granade Contact - Overpower in the next build
If you put the grenade in vain ISK all use.
Excessively increase the use of PG / CPU this grenade, or just explode only in contact with the enemy.
I really like the idea of using fitting requirements to make balance this type of issue. Do I take the OP grenade and nerf my fitting or do I want a real gun... Nice dilemma to have |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:27:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Stats don't show direct damage, but we can kinda get the idea of why the hell everyone uses this KDR cop-out.
Locus Grenade - Splash: 400 -:- Radius: 6m -:- Ammo: 3 -:- CPU/PG: 9/2 -:- Cost: 1,400 isk
M1 Locus Grenade - Splash: 500 -:- Radius: 6.6m -:- Ammo: 3 -:- CPU/PG: 18/3 -:- Cost: 2,920 isk
Core Locus Grenade - Splash: 600 -:- Radius 7.2m -:- Ammo: 3 -:- CPU/PG: 48/6 -:- Cost: 18,760 isk
'Haze' Locus Grenade - Splash: 500 -:- Radius: 6.6m -:- Ammo: 3 -:- CPU/PG: 9/2 -:- Cost: 3 Aurum
'Shroud' M1 Locus Grenade - Splash: 600 -:- Radius: 7.2m -:- Ammo: 3 -:- CPU/PG: 48/6 -:- Cost: 3 Aurum
'Cavity' Thukker Locus Grenade - Splash: 600 -:- Radius 5.4m -:- Ammo: 3 -:- CPU/PG: 48/6 -:- Cost: 5 Aurum -:- SPECIAL ABILITY: Explodes on contact
Damage and Radius need to be divided by two...you are rewarded enough to know that your nade will explode as soon as it lands near target, it should be as powerful and a "normal" grenade. I think 300 damage and a 3m radius would be a lot better. |
Lixet
The Craniac
Naloran Project
50
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Posted - 2012.09.18 17:02:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Stats don't show direct damage, but we can kinda get the idea of why the hell everyone uses this KDR cop-out.
Locus Grenade - Splash: 400 -:- Radius: 6m -:- Ammo: 3 -:- CPU/PG: 9/2 -:- Cost: 1,400 isk
M1 Locus Grenade - Splash: 500 -:- Radius: 6.6m -:- Ammo: 3 -:- CPU/PG: 18/3 -:- Cost: 2,920 isk
Core Locus Grenade - Splash: 600 -:- Radius 7.2m -:- Ammo: 3 -:- CPU/PG: 48/6 -:- Cost: 18,760 isk
'Haze' Locus Grenade - Splash: 500 -:- Radius: 6.6m -:- Ammo: 3 -:- CPU/PG: 9/2 -:- Cost: 3 Aurum
'Shroud' M1 Locus Grenade - Splash: 600 -:- Radius: 7.2m -:- Ammo: 3 -:- CPU/PG: 48/6 -:- Cost: 3 Aurum
'Cavity' Thukker Locus Grenade - Splash: 600 -:- Radius 5.4m -:- Ammo: 3 -:- CPU/PG: 48/6 -:- Cost: 5 Aurum -:- SPECIAL ABILITY: Explodes on contact
Damage and Radius need to be divided by two...you are rewarded enough to know that your nade will explode as soon as it lands near target, it should be as powerful and a "normal" grenade. I think 300 damage and a 3m radius would be a lot better.
Personally think it should do less than the locus grenade, as it's a counter balance to the fact that it explodes on contact. |
STB-GoD-NoVa EV
70
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Posted - 2012.09.19 00:38:00 -
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DO NOT, i repeat DO NOT bring out a isk version until you tweak this things, im not going to play this game if everyone i fight in a gun fight uses them... read my post on them ->https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=36626&find=unread |
Jane DeArc
Militaires Sans Jeux
87
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Posted - 2012.09.19 05:58:00 -
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STB-GoD-NoVa EV wrote:DO NOT, i repeat DO NOT bring out a isk version until you tweak this things, im not going to play this game if everyone i fight in a gun fight uses them... read my post on them ->https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=36626&find=unread
See this post on the topic. |
Johnson McCrea
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2012.09.19 13:16:00 -
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Most likely, the ISK version will have a bit lower damage, and smaller blast radius than the AUR version. That, and higher equip stats. |
m621 zma
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
22
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Posted - 2012.09.25 00:12:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:CCP Wolfman wrote:An ISK variant is on the way. We aim to have it in this week.
Cheers
CCP Wolfman Massive fail. Just remove this rubbish from the game. Its just the same as RE but better I dont see how thats so hard for people to understand. Impact nades should be doing half the dmg if they are kept in.
As much as I'd really like a handful of thukkers right now for a certain speedy little git 
I have to agree, I'd rather die a few more times than have to be dodging them all the time. It was bad enough having to do the RE shuffle  |
RedBleach
50
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Posted - 2012.10.01 03:44:00 -
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I think your all just jealous that you're not using it. Don't get me wrong I hate the little kittens that kill me with them and I actively seek bloody revenge... that being said why wouldn't someone create a weapon like that? I think most people are annoyed that one doesn't know what kind of grenade they are carrying. If it looked like a rocket launcher then you would stay away, because you would know how to defend against it, the fact that it is smaller than a water bottle... well we have those size bombs today and they do kill alot of people. so, Get Used to Dying in cheap ways - don't pull your punches.
Also: right now this is as close to a rocket launcher as you can get while the mass driver is broken. A weapon we all have used in other games - do you hate it because it is not apparent like their gun? Then perhaps you would like a sparkling halo around their character if they have a thukker? Red maybe. Blue for regular, green for AV, Purple for Shield, and Pink for C4
Adapt - don't get so close. or if you fight close range get better with cover, sneaking, surprise, or armor up so it only tickles you. I don't like them, it is an exploit, but for logi's who have no side-arm this is a great defense. But remember it hurts anything caught in the blast - if it is thrown too close the lobber dies too
I suppose one could make realistic penalties : It is more like a water balloon, a large impact and the person wearing it goes boom? maybe? |
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