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Hawk of Battle
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.16 19:44:00 -
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So I just came out of a game where a couple of guys (I won't name names), seemed to have found a way to, I presume, grind SP, by repeatedly crashing a dropship into a ceiling by the spawn point whilst another repairs it.
Legitimate tactic? Cheating exploit? Shut up Hawk and mind your own business? |
Logi Bro
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
836
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Posted - 2012.09.16 19:48:00 -
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Back in the previous build, when you could choose what server you wanted to join, people would join empty games, call down tanks, and shoot each other whilst repairing themselves. Some of the people that had the top of the leaderboards were in those games, though I won't state who.
This is just what happens when you make games that require large amounts of time to skill to a high level, people exploit things. |
Loss Tovas
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.16 19:48:00 -
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Ha, that's funny because I bought a repair gun just to farm SP, too. When the blob gets rolling repairing nets more points faster than assists. Never thought about beating on a vehicle though. Either way the game will wipe and corporations and contracts won't really leave room for this kind of play I would think. |
Hawk of Battle
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.16 19:53:00 -
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I wouldn't have minded so much but because they were so obvious about it everyone started crowding round to watch, and nobody left the spawn area. The enemy took all the control points and we started getting base raped. I decided to run off alone and solo took all 3 points, but they each got retaken pretty quick and I eventually got hunted down as I started to draw attention leaving each area. |
Shadows Maker
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
129
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Posted - 2012.09.16 20:01:00 -
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repairing Missile Instillation = lots and lots of SP  |
Kefir Grains
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.16 20:39:00 -
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They'll figure ways to prevent this and roll people back that exploited it |
Raynor Ragna
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Posted - 2012.09.16 20:52:00 -
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Perhaps there can be diminishing returns on SP gained from the same vehicle.. Though that'd punish teamwork. Perhap SP is gained by repairing a vehicle that actively gets kills or moves around a large portion of the map.... |
Lixet
The Craniac
Naloran Project
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Posted - 2012.09.16 20:59:00 -
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Stat paddling. Easy way to do it is to make it so you gain less each time it goes on?
It works with the nanite injector, only 1 time, rest gives you 0 WP |
STB-stlcarlos989 EV
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
936
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Posted - 2012.09.16 23:24:00 -
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The easy fix is to give zero points for repairing self inflicted damage or teammate damage, and only give points for repairing damage caused by the enemy. |
Needless Sacermendor
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Posted - 2012.09.16 23:50:00 -
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They must have spent the whole night doing it because I saw presumably the same pair of regular high end HAV drivers doing it in 2 consecutive matches not so long ago.
Glad they got a crowd in you match ... at least more people know how they get their points now their toys have been taken out of the pram. |
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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.16 23:54:00 -
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Hey that sounds like me I was just trying to learn to fly give a guy a brake.  |
Pezley McDoff
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.09.16 23:56:00 -
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I didn't want to do it but Sha threatened to spill all my dirty secrets if i didn't help him  |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.16 23:56:00 -
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Niether of us are to blame really it was Tyras Borgs idea. |
Pezley McDoff
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.09.16 23:57:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Niether of us are to blame really it was Tyras Borgs idea.
agreed +1 sir |
Needless Sacermendor
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Posted - 2012.09.17 00:20:00 -
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I've seen you fly when you're not messing about and I can say for sure you don't need lessons, you should be giving them if anything.
It was Sha flying and Tyas repairing I saw and it ruined both matches for the rest of the team to be 2 mercs down the entire match while you farmed points ... out of interest and for the benefit of the rest of the class ... How many skill points each do the 2 of you have this build with the HAVs and the repair farming ?
Seriously next time he asks ... tell him to grow up ! |
I-SHAYZ-I
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Posted - 2012.09.17 00:25:00 -
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The dropship shouldn't take so much damage from crashing into objects.
Even if it isn't realistic, it would fix more issues this way. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.17 00:43:00 -
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Hey I just came 2nd on my team doing this without letting a shot off orbitals 4tw |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
1592
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Posted - 2012.09.17 00:48:00 -
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CCP has experience dealing with this sort of thing. Goonswarm, regardless of what you think of them, has worked with CCP in determining the LP loophole that existed in the Faction Warfare system for Eve Online and thus helped CCP patch it with their reports on the loopholes. If the Goons are willing to do that for Eve's betterment, I'm pretty certain they will do the same for Dust's betterment. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.17 00:51:00 -
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STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote:The easy fix is to give zero points for repairing self inflicted damage or teammate damage, and only give points for repairing damage caused by the enemy.
Tracking the causes of damage can sometimes be more of a chore than it seems, though. I actually work with such issues in a mod that I work on from time to time. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.17 01:05:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:CCP has experience dealing with this sort of thing. Goonswarm, regardless of what you think of them, has worked with CCP in determining the LP loophole that existed in the Faction Warfare system for Eve Online and thus helped CCP patch it with their reports on the loopholes. If the Goons are willing to do that for Eve's betterment, I'm pretty certain they will do the same for Dust's betterment.
Yeps this should stay first page really cos its kinda a big exploit so they should see it.
1 mil sp today and counting. |
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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.17 01:06:00 -
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I-SHAYZ-I wrote:The dropship shouldn't take so much damage from crashing into objects.
Even if it isn't realistic, it would fix more issues this way.
So bring back the days of dropship squishing ? |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.09.17 01:08:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:I-SHAYZ-I wrote:The dropship shouldn't take so much damage from crashing into objects.
Even if it isn't realistic, it would fix more issues this way. So bring back the days of dropship squishing ?
We should also give lavs large guns |
STB-TedNugent EV
159
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Posted - 2012.09.17 01:11:00 -
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Hawk of Battle wrote:So I just came out of a game where a couple of guys (I won't name names), seemed to have found a way to, I presume, grind SP, by repeatedly crashing a dropship into a ceiling by the spawn point whilst another repairs it.
Legitimate tactic? Cheating exploit? Shut up Hawk and mind your own business?
i noticed you could do this with an lav but I don't play a game to find ways to obstruct the system. Set a defend order on your lav and use it as a mobile order to get bonus sp.... only works when you have a compitent squad to help you as squad leader only gets squad commision... i refuse to crash a dropship and repair... thats kind of boring ccp sounds like you should fix repair damage from collisions being people are abusing the system |
STB-TedNugent EV
159
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Posted - 2012.09.17 01:12:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:I-SHAYZ-I wrote:The dropship shouldn't take so much damage from crashing into objects.
Even if it isn't realistic, it would fix more issues this way. So bring back the days of dropship squishing ?
my fix is better |
Nullsec Miner
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Posted - 2012.09.17 01:12:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:CCP has experience dealing with this sort of thing. Goonswarm, regardless of what you think of them, has worked with CCP in determining the LP loophole that existed in the Faction Warfare system for Eve Online and thus helped CCP patch it with their reports on the loopholes. If the Goons are willing to do that for Eve's betterment, I'm pretty certain they will do the same for Dust's betterment. Yeps this should stay first page really cos its kinda a big exploit so they should see it. 1 mil sp today and counting.
Try posting it in the bugs section if you want it noticed. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.17 01:40:00 -
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Will post in bugs in da morning.
Seems its easy to get way more sp and its not much effort tho some fun games starting now with peeps trying to put a stop to it but i gota say this wont police its self thats 4 sure. |
Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United
Relativity Alliance
152
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Posted - 2012.09.17 02:24:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:CCP has experience dealing with this sort of thing. Goonswarm, regardless of what you think of them, has worked with CCP in determining the LP loophole that existed in the Faction Warfare system for Eve Online and thus helped CCP patch it with their reports on the loopholes. If the Goons are willing to do that for Eve's betterment, I'm pretty certain they will do the same for Dust's betterment.
They're very big on continuation of the game. Hell, they pretty much own all the technetium and they've been harping at CCP for quite awhile to fix moon mining. What's funny is tons of people scream that they're trying to kill it. But, at the same time every new big event they start or get involved in makes headlines and more people find out about EvE and then end up playing. The idea that they want to kill EvE is bogus and straight bull doodoo. |
RedBleach
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Posted - 2012.09.17 04:40:00 -
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STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote:The easy fix is to give zero points for repairing self inflicted damage or teammate damage, and only give points for repairing damage caused by the enemy.
Terrible, have you flown a dropship or landed one for that matter? Ran an LAV into something on accident? That would make it so no one wants to help.
Vote no |
Brox Coldon
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Posted - 2012.09.17 04:51:00 -
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STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote:The easy fix is to give zero points for repairing self inflicted damage or teammate damage, and only give points for repairing damage caused by the enemy.
i agree. that seems to be the best solution.
course once you can setup custom contracts, then that could be abused. get your alt on the other side..or a buddy. and there you go.
The nice thing about eve's time based skill points, can't exploit them. so player skill is more important. no one can get super far ahead with the same playing time like in dust as it is now.
here the rewarded skill points is too high over the daily passive. so people that do stuff like that get really really far ahead. If the most you could earn was say 25% over the passive then exploits wouldn't be a big deal. Now in one match your skill points earned can be more then what you earn passively in a whole day. In one day of good player can earn months worth of skill points.
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TiMeSpLiT--TeR
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
326
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:56:00 -
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MAG has done this right. If damaged by any means except from an enemy, no points are rewarded. |
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