Niether of us are to blame really it was Tyras Borgs idea.

The easy fix is to give zero points for repairing self inflicted damage or teammate damage, and only give points for repairing damage caused by the enemy.

CCP has experience dealing with this sort of thing. Goonswarm, regardless of what you think of them, has worked with CCP in determining the LP loophole that existed in the Faction Warfare system for Eve Online and thus helped CCP patch it with their reports on the loopholes. If the Goons are willing to do that for Eve's betterment, I'm pretty certain they will do the same for Dust's betterment.

The dropship shouldn't take so much damage from crashing into objects.

Even if it isn't realistic, it would fix more issues this way.

So bring back the days of dropship squishing ?

So I just came out of a game where a couple of guys (I won't name names), seemed to have found a way to, I presume, grind SP, by repeatedly crashing a dropship into a ceiling by the spawn point whilst another repairs it.

Legitimate tactic? Cheating exploit? Shut up Hawk and mind your own business?

So bring back the days of dropship squishing ?

Yeps this should stay first page really cos its kinda a big exploit so they should see it.

1 mil sp today and counting.

CCP has experience dealing with this sort of thing. Goonswarm, regardless of what you think of them, has worked with CCP in determining the LP loophole that existed in the Faction Warfare system for Eve Online and thus helped CCP patch it with their reports on the loopholes. If the Goons are willing to do that for Eve's betterment, I'm pretty certain they will do the same for Dust's betterment.

The easy fix is to give zero points for repairing self inflicted damage or teammate damage, and only give points for repairing damage caused by the enemy.

The easy fix is to give zero points for repairing self inflicted damage or teammate damage, and only give points for repairing damage caused by the enemy.

MAG has done this right. If damaged by any means except from an enemy, no points are rewarded.

They'll figure ways to prevent this and roll people back that exploited it

CCP has experience dealing with this sort of thing. Goonswarm, regardless of what you think of them, has worked with CCP in determining the LP loophole that existed in the Faction Warfare system for Eve Online and thus helped CCP patch it with their reports on the loopholes. If the Goons are willing to do that for Eve's betterment, I'm pretty certain they will do the same for Dust's betterment.

No doubt at all its an exploit.

Still not as good as farming with a tank tho (pre balance)

CCP has experience dealing with this sort of thing. Goonswarm, regardless of what you think of them, has worked with CCP in determining the LP loophole that existed in the Faction Warfare system for Eve Online and thus helped CCP patch it with their reports on the loopholes. If the Goons are willing to do that for Eve's betterment, I'm pretty certain they will do the same for Dust's betterment.

Niether of us are to blame really it was Tyras Borgs idea.

The dropship shouldn't take so much damage from crashing into objects.

Even if it isn't realistic, it would fix more issues this way.

No it needs to have even more sever damage done to it from crashing into stuff. You may not have been here last build but low damage from crashes resulted in people getting squashed by bouncing dropships which no one really enjoyed.

TL;DR Simplest Answer, Repairing tanks give you small% of points tank gets, tank blows up another tank? logi gets points, Tank blows up buildings, logi gets points, as long as logi has been actively helping tank in the last say, minute. He gets points.

Sora U'vasi was actauly the mastermind of the whole operation. OMG I have said too much ..what about my family!!

Fairly certain this is already implemented, but you simply reduce the SP gain from WP attained through repeating the same action. For the first couple completions of the action, full SP is awarded for the WP earned, but continued completion of said action will still award WP but with significantly reduced SP awarded. This makes endless repairing/spider tanking/hack sharing not very profitable in the long run, since the SP/WP ratio drops off significantly.

You could deepen the system a bit by giving that dropoff a cooldown, say you can get 3 full tick from healing a dropship before the SP gain drops off, but if you go back to heal it a few minutes later you can get another full 3 ticks.

The fact of the matter is that the SP algorithm is rather complex, and there are likely countermeasures already in place. Regardless, the key is that you need to properly reward people for helping the team, all while making these farming tactics not profitable in the long run. I mean sure people will still sit there and farm SP, but if you make it 4x more profitable to just go play the game normally...it'll significantly reduce the problem.

The algorithm isn't complex, go find my post on it...

Edit:

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=36696&find=unread

There it is, and just for the record, there's no diminishing returns on XP or completing specific tasks in battle. Everything is set to a multiplier which you"ll find more about in my post.

As for the OP, did some math on the exploit earlier. If constantly repairing for 10min, the logi will be award 150kills worth of SP, and the leader ( drop ship pilot ) will receive 90 kills worth of points from the squad command.

Thanks OP for pointing it out, and dust bunnies for testing it pre-release instead of holding it in your back pocket.