thatGÇÖs why I agree with the nerf it was need and tank drivers just need to adapt to a more team based style. the above is just to make it clear on what needs tweaking and how the tanks need to adapt.

Tanks are garbage now. A single guy with a swarm launcher in a decent position where he is hard to hit can take out a tank pretty easy. If you want to waste ISK+SP go down now the road of tanks.

there is no problem with a solo infantry taking out a tank.

if that solo infantry can OHK a non militia tank with militia gear, that is a problem (game wise), but i doubt it, unless said tank just sits there trying to tank the damage(1000dam. per swarm release, according to my calculations).

i may be wrong but 20% of 250 is 50 no.. so swarms should now be doing 300 damage per missile, not 320 ?


Tanks need to adapt, I'm sure things will change with the next build, and we may see a sleight buff to vehicle HP, drop ships already are getting said HP buff. I don't think tanks need much of a buff, they just need to learn how to position themselves so they can retreat faster :P

tanks in small Ambush maps are no longer a problem at least


on a side note... playing infantry ... I refuse to help tank drivers that have annoyed me in the past ... i've started running away from tanks on my own team... hoping someone will blow them up! Sadly the good tank drivers are still good at getting away

On a second side note... drop ships are now getting one shot :(

Tanks are garbage now. A single guy with a swarm launcher in a decent position where he is hard to hit can take out a tank pretty easy. If you want to waste ISK+SP go down now the road of tanks.

If I can solo a tank, there's something wrong.

If only there were some way to have, I dunno, people on foot clear out guys with swarm launchers. If only there were some way to make that happen...

If I can solo a tank, there's something wrong.

really tiny text i guess it is 300 lol.

tanks should not be soloed by a equivalent or lesser tech weapons, swarms got to much 5% would have been better.

dropships donGÇÖt need a HP boost, they need a much higher explosive resistances, why because a infantry transport should be able to safely transport infantry. so higher explosive resistance would protect them from AA weapons but direct fire would still hurt them alot.

if you can solo a (militia) tank with (proto) AV, it's working

The key is to see how and if people adjust. That's likely part of why they waited so long on the HAV nerf despite the constant complaining.

For example, my dropship is much more fragile now and swarms are much more popular. I'm not going to just stop using it*, I'm going to modify my tactics to fit its new capabilities. If, after a while, no one is able to find success with dropships (and LAVs and HAVs), then they'll reexamine the balance. It's up to us vehicle driver folks to figure out what role we can occupy now.


*although I'm going to stop using a CRU, I had another dropship stolen by a random today while I was repairing it.

Are tanks really that bad since the nerf or are people just exhaggerating? I've not skiled into vehicles at all so I've never called one in but the nerf has gotten a lot of attention from players.

People are exaggerating because their god-mode is now only demigod-mode.

pretty much this.

some guy in a sagaris is now very concerned because he dies once every three games instead of once every ten.

mind you, it's a very expensive tank, but fielding it every game without consequence, or being able to farm enough isk so you always break even on it, is ******* dumb as all hell.

people are prone to exaggeration in order to make their claims sound more reasonable...

why just last week i caught a 40pound trout, it was no where near the usual 4 pound i get from that river...