DUST Search - Man i thought the GMs and DEVs were gonna be more interactive with the beta test...

PHAROAH AMEN RA wrote:

This forum is like any other forum ive seen and i havent been on alot of mmorg forums. For this to be a beta they are treating it like its a game already. Really what could be so time consuming that you wont check up on ur baby and the babysitter ....I mean i see alot posts by players but not really responses and conversations from the ppl that count. Our words are all speculation. Sure its nice to see some names from matches but what about the Devs and the GMs kickin it with us.

JMO dont beat me up here i know u guys that have been around take it real personal when you hear from the "OUTSIDE WORLD". I never heard of EVE till i saw Dust. Think about it, if u want tap a new market of ppl, open ur doors for real !! We do have an opinion. Why try and supress what you dont agree with. Wont make your market share grow.

Im just sayin i see alot of fans... but a quarter has Heads and Tails. Fans tend to forget that ! So for the eve fanatics hear the otherside out, we will tell these guys how to keep us interested you dont have to agree. This is not about you...its about market share and longevity.

Im a console gamer i have spoken Cool

PHAROAH AMEN RA wrote:

No!!! Not first forum experience in viedo games Shocked

(walks off slowly SMH shrugging) This is a beta not a game yet. So why are you talking to me about video game forums and comparing them......(Thinks for a second) "This is a Beta" (thats the all encompasing answer to all our woes) What?

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PHAROAH AMEN RA Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 20	Posted - 2012.09.13 06:03:00 - [1] - Quote This forum is like any other forum ive seen and i havent been on alot of mmorg forums. For this to be a beta they are treating it like its a game already. Really what could be so time consuming that you wont check up on ur baby and the babysitter ....I mean i see alot posts by players but not really responses and conversations from the ppl that count. Our words are all speculation. Sure its nice to see some names from matches but what about the Devs and the GMs kickin it with us. JMO dont beat me up here i know u guys that have been around take it real personal when you hear from the "OUTSIDE WORLD". I never heard of EVE till i saw Dust. Think about it, if u want tap a new market of ppl, open ur doors for real !! We do have an opinion. Why try and supress what you dont agree with. Wont make your market share grow. Im just sayin i see alot of fans... but a quarter has Heads and Tails. Fans tend to forget that ! So for the eve fanatics hear the otherside out, we will tell these guys how to keep us interested you dont have to agree. This is not about you...its about market share and longevity. Im a console gamer i have spoken
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 583	Posted - 2012.09.13 09:37:00 - [2] - Quote Join the IRC chat or look at the giant blue DEV and red GM flags on the sides of posts. Just because the devs are not posting in every thread doesn't mean they're not reading the ones worth reading.
Nomed Deeps The Exemplars 91	Posted - 2012.09.13 14:26:00 - [3] - Quote Quote: Just because the devs are not posting in every thread doesn't mean they're not reading the ones worth reading. I've created and posted in several threads with both feedback and bug reporting. All I have posted in have not gotten a single GM or dev response so I guess those weren't worth reading.
Kaif Zel Algintal Core Gallente Federation 88	Posted - 2012.09.13 14:30:00 - [4] - Quote Nomed Deeps wrote: Quote: Just because the devs are not posting in every thread doesn't mean they're not reading the ones worth reading. I've created and posted in several threads with both feedback and bug reporting. All I have posted in have not gotten a single GM or dev response so I guess those weren't worth reading. Did you not read what he said? I'll repeat it for you. JUST BECAUSE YOUR THREADS DON'T HAVE DEV OR GM COMMENTS IN THEM DOES NOT MEAN THEY AREN'T READING THEM. also CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL
Nomed Deeps The Exemplars 91	Posted - 2012.09.13 15:41:00 - [5] - Quote Quote: JUST BECAUSE YOUR THREADS DON'T HAVE DEV OR GM COMMENTS IN THEM DOES NOT MEAN THEY AREN'T READING THEM. What proof is there that they are being read? I am sorry I do not have as much faith as Kaif and Pokey do. I'd have a little more faith if dev and GM responses weren't so few and far between.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 583	Posted - 2012.09.13 15:49:00 - [6] - Quote Nomed Deeps wrote: Quote: JUST BECAUSE YOUR THREADS DON'T HAVE DEV OR GM COMMENTS IN THEM DOES NOT MEAN THEY AREN'T READING THEM. What proof is there that they are being read? I am sorry I do not have as much faith as Kaif and Pokey do. I'd have a little more faith if dev and GM responses weren't so few and far between. Because they've said in several threads several times that they're reading and taking feedback. Also I've spoken with Devs and GMs in the IRC chat about several threads and they have indeed been reading into them. Also if you've got a bug, the best thing to do is file a bug report first, as well as make a forum post.
Cobra of Chulak Aideron Robotics 12	Posted - 2012.09.13 16:05:00 - [7] - Quote How much time do you think it takes to write code? If you were to make sure you read all of the contents of every single thread and responded to them, how much time do you think it would take out of your day? Then put in 8 hours of coding on top of that? Programmers DO sleep, despite the fact that our blood is made primarily of caffeine. We also have these things called "personal lives" despite the fact that they're often so unexciting they hardly qualify as such. The amount of people who seem to think writing code is as simple as mashing your fingers on the keyboard or waving a magic wand around is astounding. Do you think we all went to Hogwarts to learn to code or something? :\ I say "we" because this seems to be a constant misconception of all developers in general.
Brox Coldon 2	Posted - 2012.09.13 16:16:00 - [8] - Quote PHAROAH AMEN RA wrote: This forum is like any other forum ive seen and i havent been on alot of mmorg forums. For this to be a beta they are treating it like its a game already. Really what could be so time consuming that you wont check up on ur baby and the babysitter ....I mean i see alot posts by players but not really responses and conversations from the ppl that count. Our words are all speculation. Sure its nice to see some names from matches but what about the Devs and the GMs kickin it with us. JMO dont beat me up here i know u guys that have been around take it real personal when you hear from the "OUTSIDE WORLD". I never heard of EVE till i saw Dust. Think about it, if u want tap a new market of ppl, open ur doors for real !! We do have an opinion. Why try and supress what you dont agree with. Wont make your market share grow. Im just sayin i see alot of fans... but a quarter has Heads and Tails. Fans tend to forget that ! So for the eve fanatics hear the otherside out, we will tell these guys how to keep us interested you dont have to agree. This is not about you...its about market share and longevity. Im a console gamer i have spoken Us EVE Players do appreciate you console gamers and we hope Dust is successful so we can bomb the crap out of you with Arial Bombardments! I do think we need to be more understanding of new players. Even though DUST is a console game, its skill tree and equipment are EVE all the way. So we are very familiar with it in a way you are not. EVE players need to be more patient with those new to our way of doing things. #1 thing you learn about skill tree's after a while is specialize your character. Dont try to go down every tree. Pick and specialty and max it. You do other specialties later. i.e. dont train heavy suits on your logistics character. And don't forget all the little support skills that go with a class. those little 3% and 5% add up.
MrShooter01 Expert Intervention Caldari State 268	Posted - 2012.09.13 16:29:00 - [9] - Quote What do you want? A blue tag on every thread? "Yes, we have read this and it has been discussed in the office!" If, hypothetically, that were to happen, would anyone actually be happy with it? Or would we quickly start to see people posting "CCP is giving a canned, copy and paste response to EVERY THREAD! They didn't write a 500+ word response to my thread!" (This is a trick question, actually. The above has literally happened on the EVE Online forums MULTIPLE TIMES. CCP responds too little, everyone is angry. CCP responds too much, everyone is still angry. because customers) What about the threads that are just absolutely awful? Should the devs go out of their way to respond to them? "FEEDBACK: Make the assault rifle one hit kill, remove all vehicles, other weapons, and all dropsuits other than the scout dropsuit" CCP InsertNameHere: "Thank you for your feedback, we loved reading your thread and will definitely discuss the prospect of pissing off 95% of our players over lunch!" "FEEDBACK: Unreal engine sucks! Instead of accepting it and moving on I recommend/demand that CCP CHANGE TO (Insert engine here)! I am clueless and do not even have a layman's understanding of game development, but that is not relevant!" CCP InsertNameHere: "While our team originally chose UE3 because it was cheap and easy to work with, we understand your concerns. I will discuss with the project lead the prospect of throwing away all of our current code, budgeting to license a new engine, and readying the team to dump thousands of man-hours of work to port DUST to it!" "BUG: I didn't read the known issues section of the patch notes but (insert bug from known issues section of the patch notes)" CCP InsertNameHere: "Thank you for posting the 23rd thread on this bug, I walked down the office to the to the conference room and tried to tell them about it but it seems they have wired a car battery to the door knob. I printed out your post and slipped it under the door though!" There are many, many more people posting threads on the forums than there are devs to read them. The ones who do read them really, REALLY do go out of their way to read every thread they can and forward the interesting ones to the relevant people in the team. But they just can't reply to every thread, or even most of the threads.
PHAROAH AMEN RA Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 20	Posted - 2012.10.09 19:33:00 - [10] - Quote No Sir! !! I dont want blue and orange post its everywhere but more response = more feedback = bettergame for all...... JMO Now about the SP, whoa, gotta play 100 games to lvl 1 skill thats a grind and 3 halves !! 87000 at 700 a game u do the math......this is torture lol

Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.10.09 19:53:00 - [11] - Quote "Wah! Wah! Baby pharoh, wants milk! Wah! Wah!" - TFS No, but seriously they have been more active then in previous builds. I still would like them to try harder, but it's like perpetually beating a ragged dead horse, and still it won't drink from the waters of life. Frustrating? Yes, to say the least if you ask me. Point is though that it could be a lot more desolete then it is here, but they are putting more thought and trying to atleast communicate with the majority of us outside of the IRC. With youtube videos, blogs, and development blogs at that. Could always be worse.
PHAROAH AMEN RA Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 20	Posted - 2012.10.09 20:20:00 - [12] - Quote chug chug chug (Drinks the milk) ahhhh wipes mouth with sleeve ....buuurrp (waits a moment) Yes this build codex does have alot more interaction than when this comment was first posted glad to see improvements!!! I didnt want or need the milk but thanx was ice cold NICE!!! More comments= More communication= Better game for us all when finally released

CCP Nullarbor C C P C C P Alliance 540	Posted - 2012.10.09 20:59:00 - [13] - Quote I read a lot of the threads but don't always reply. Our community team does a great job of sharing most of the complaints / bugs / feature requests / ideas with the entire team. So while you might not see a blue tag on every thread, we are definitely listening.

Ignatius Crumwald Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 475	Posted - 2012.10.09 21:23:00 - [14] - Quote Actually they're kind of annoying how involved they are. I feel like I can't even leave my bong out on the end table.
tribal wyvern ZionTCD Legacy Rising 673	Posted - 2012.10.09 21:54:00 - [15] - Quote Don't forget the Shanghai offices are on vacation until the 16th of this month. I think the devs do a great job with their communication.
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2047	Posted - 2012.10.09 21:57:00 - [16] - Quote Ignatius Crumwald wrote: Actually they're kind of annoying how involved they are. I feel like I can't even leave my bong out on the end table. and your likes just reached 420 Edit: and now its ruined
Enderr Wigginn KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 57	Posted - 2012.10.09 22:11:00 - [17] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: Ignatius Crumwald wrote: Actually they're kind of annoying how involved they are. I feel like I can't even leave my bong out on the end table. and your likes just reached 420 ^^^ Wow this is a sign ^^^ On topic to the OP, This must be your first forum experience with video games because I have used numerous and never seen has much dev participation. There have been a couple triple-a titles I have seen all the way through beta to dlc only use one or two community managers who maybe just maybe post once a week.
PHAROAH AMEN RA Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 20	Posted - 2012.10.09 22:31:00 - [18] - Quote No!!! Not first forum experience in viedo games (walks off slowly SMH shrugging) This is a beta not a game yet. So why are you talking to me about video game forums and comparing them......(Thinks for a second) "This is a Beta" (thats the all encompasing answer to all our woes)
Enderr Wigginn KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 57	Posted - 2012.10.10 03:30:00 - [19] - Quote PHAROAH AMEN RA wrote: This forum is like any other forum ive seen and i havent been on alot of mmorg forums. For this to be a beta they are treating it like its a game already. Really what could be so time consuming that you wont check up on ur baby and the babysitter ....I mean i see alot posts by players but not really responses and conversations from the ppl that count. Our words are all speculation. Sure its nice to see some names from matches but what about the Devs and the GMs kickin it with us. JMO dont beat me up here i know u guys that have been around take it real personal when you hear from the "OUTSIDE WORLD". I never heard of EVE till i saw Dust. Think about it, if u want tap a new market of ppl, open ur doors for real !! We do have an opinion. Why try and supress what you dont agree with. Wont make your market share grow. Im just sayin i see alot of fans... but a quarter has Heads and Tails. Fans tend to forget that ! So for the eve fanatics hear the otherside out, we will tell these guys how to keep us interested you dont have to agree. This is not about you...its about market share and longevity. Im a console gamer i have spoken PHAROAH AMEN RA wrote: No!!! Not first forum experience in viedo games (walks off slowly SMH shrugging) This is a beta not a game yet. So why are you talking to me about video game forums and comparing them......(Thinks for a second) "This is a Beta" (thats the all encompasing answer to all our woes) I apologize, I assumed that you must not have been on many forums because you said "i havent been on alot of mmorg forums" and for not being clear enough I did mean beta forums for video games. I was actually referring to the Starhawk, Resistance 3 and tom clancy ghost recon future soldier betas I was in and compared to the devs in here they were nonexistent.
SoLJae ZionTCD Legacy Rising 351	Posted - 2012.10.10 13:26:00 - [20] - Quote Ignatius Crumwald wrote: Actually they're kind of annoying how involved they are. I feel like I can't even leave my bong out on the end table. hahaha +1 quote of the day!



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