Electonics V - 25% more CPU
Engineering V - 25% more Powergrid

I thought that these didn't affect vehicles. If they do, then they don't seem work for me.

Now then when you shot a Sagaris its not the 8972 shields going down no its the 16,312 number going down in a sense more easily understood when applying resisted damage.

So earlier saw a tank whiner declaring a HAV having 6k shileds

Well the other way of doing this evicer is taking the 45% resists to damage and applying it to the forge gun damage so in reality you're only doing about... 682 damage instead.

Way to get subtly personal Iron - I appreciate that a lot mate.

Also, where are you getting three complex damage modifiers from? I run heavy frequently and struggle to fit more than one without having to sacrifice half of the fit...

I have no idea if you're supporting my argument or against it so it honestly doesn't matter - your math just coincides with mine at pretty much every angle you're just assuming that, by some form of convenience and optimism, that three forge gunners are ever going to have an opportunity to use the same exact fit, not get killed by one or more of the five tanks on field or hordes of infantry support, conveniently in a location that the tank cannot max speed (faster than a sprinting scout mind you) out of range and/or still have the perfect co-ordination to operate against said tank with Prototype/Officer fits.

You've got high hopes for them AV guys man, just saying.

Ummm so tanks are overpowered

I can't say I've seen my tank passively regenerate shields WHILE being shot, you might want to check if that is the case with vehicle shields.

I know they regen fast enough to nullify an assault rifles or HMG damage. There might be a threshold that causes the 1.5 second pause.

More like the Forge gun is underpowered. I like how it was on the first build. It can stop a tank.

Oh, no, not one of those.

You want the bug from the last build back, that meant AR's could kill tanks?

I know, I know, this is the future, and the AR's are using plasma, yadda, yadda, yadda.
Do you think these tanks are made of any material we know of today?

Ill just be mean and tell you go fly a kite.

The simple fact is that the AR still does perform its damage against tanks. tanks however regen those shieds nearly instantly,

Consider this Iron Wolf. A Proto Swarm has 6 grenades of 250 HP damage each, 4 swarms in a magazine, which it can probably fire at a rate of one per 2 seconds, i not faster.

That is about 6000 HP damage in one magazine, if the SL user is reasonably competent and manages to get them all on target, fired over perhaps 6-8 seconds.

That is without damage mods.

If you sit on a nanohive, by the time those first 4 swarms are out of the barrel, you'll be reloading to a new full mag. About 5 seconds later at worst, you are ready to let loose another 6000 HP.

So you can see that a squad of these should easily kill even a 16k EHP Sagaris.
The question then becomes, why aren't you?

This is now, later the math will change. For instance, add the webbers that are coming later. Catch a Sagaris in one of those, and it won't even be able to take cover.

Still think Tanks are OP?

And your math uses stats that are known to NOT be applied yet.

You forgot it has to be perfect , ideal situation for that to happen.

You forgot about the assaults shooting and hunting to protect there tank, also the tank isnt just going to sit there, one, two at max shots and the swarm launcher user is no more.

And therse's never a squad of AV player at the moment you may be get one , two max.

So, teamwork, protecting the tank = the TANK is OP?

Just realised my math is a bit out with the resistances lol, it's still not 16K or anywhere near whatever build you use.

If you want to calculate the EHP of any fit, here's the math:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am5BtW91ldk3dGIxcWRBVDM3NnJZQlIyVmpZbjBYNEE

Don't think you're taking into account Damage Controls and the Sagaris' base shield resistance which is increased from the Gunnlogi.

If you want to calculate the EHP of any fit, here's the math:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am5BtW91ldk3dGIxcWRBVDM3NnJZQlIyVmpZbjBYNEE

Sorry Noc, these are wrong. I'll paste the maths in one mo

Here ya go..
1st, 25%
2nd 25%/100*87=21.75

So first one gives 25% Res. Second doesn't give another 21.75 added to the first 25 as its now not 25% off 100 its 25% of 75 which is 16.31

Which gives compound of 41.31

That's about spot on for 2x 25% resistance mods and a DC

I think though that if iron wolfs maths are right, can't be bothered checking it right now, but 3 AV for one 1.5mil tank seems perfectly reasonable to me......