Tanks should be balanced by one squad against an other squad.

What I mean is a squad of four militia suits should be able to take down a squad in. Militia tank.

A proto tank should wreck the squad of AV militia but fear a full squad full of proto heavies. People say "oh tanks. Ohhh tanks are SO expensive!" but a squad of four heavies in proto gear is just as expensive but also is vulnerable to everything else in the game. Tanks can't die to a militia scrambler pistol but heavies can.

Heavy tanks also shouldn't be able to roll around without infantry support without bein swarmed and disabled by enemy infantry. There needs to be a way for regular infantry to disable any type of tank. For instance if I'm able to jump on top of a tank I should be able to shoot or kill the crew of it. Or hack it while on top. Or set RE explosives on top and blow it to hell and back.

I would also like to see heavies get 1) a bonus resistance against vehicles weapons.

Tanks can solo anything in this game except other tanks. I would love to see tank on tank battles but the problem is that tanks have no hard counters. Having to have half of the enem team switch to AV just to kill a squad of three is unacceptable. It should be balanced by three versus three/four. It's much easier coordination a team in a vehicle anyway.

Tanks should be balanced by one squad against an other squad.

What I mean is a squad of four militia suits should be able to take down a squad in. Militia tank.

A proto tank should wreck the squad of AV militia but fear a full squad full of proto heavies. People say "oh tanks. Ohhh tanks are SO expensive!" but a squad of four heavies in proto gear is just as expensive but also is vulnerable to everything else in the game. Tanks can't die to a militia scrambler pistol but heavies can.

Heavy tanks also shouldn't be able to roll around without infantry support without bein swarmed and disabled by enemy infantry. There needs to be a way for regular infantry to disable any type of tank. For instance if I'm able to jump on top of a tank I should be able to shoot or kill the crew of it. Or hack it while on top. Or set RE explosives on top and blow it to hell and back.

I would also like to see heavies get 1) a bonus resistance against vehicles weapons.

Tanks can solo anything in this game except other tanks. I would love to see tank on tank battles but the problem is that tanks have no hard counters. Having to have half of the enem team switch to AV just to kill a squad of three is unacceptable. It should be balanced by three versus three/four. It's much easier coordination a team in a vehicle anyway.

Ahem to the OP you're forgetting to drop booste for extender, and natural shield recharge into account
Then bottom rowing with power diagnostics which increase shield recharge rates and amount.

What we have here is a land drake. Eith an effective EHP in the 20k+ shields.

You also forgot to take skills into account ont eh tank driver side.

Either way the natural shield regenreation on some of these buffer tanks would recharge damage lost to an assault forge gun in about 4 seconds.

Also on muraders there is natural resists too.

Oh really? Didn't know about that.

Either way the natural shield regenreation on some of these buffer tanks would recharge damage lost to an assault forge gun in about 4 seconds.

Also on muraders there is natural resists too.

Damage bonus and resistsances but they're hidden stats last time I looked at them (THANKFULLY Resists are getting dropped off on the murader next build)

So how do you get 1500/fg skills- tankresists 500 damage fixed in four seconds??

More like 600-700 damage a shot with mods unless you want to do it all in ehp math.

Shield Amounts/shields per second and from current observations the shield in dust 514 are not scaled so that 30% of shields is peak recharge. However there is a scale os some sorts as 90% shields on vehicles take the longer than 10% to rechage. How much this 'arc' goes up and down is not yet well known or understood. Where as in eve's its more like shields at 30-40% having 1.5% recharge rage vs 95% shields 0.25 rate.

I unfourutnately dont sit down in front of a spread sheet to get exact numbers, maybe I should.

More like 600-700 damage a shot with mods unless you want to do it all in ehp math.

Shield Amounts/shields per second and from current observations the shield in dust 514 are not scaled so that 30% of shields is peak recharge. However there is a scale os some sorts as 90% shields on vehicles take the longer than 10% to rechage. How much this 'arc' goes up and down is not yet well known or understood. Where as in eve's its more like shields at 30-40% having 1.5% recharge rage vs 95% shields 0.25 rate.

I unfourutnately dont sit down in front of a spread sheet to get exact numbers, maybe I should.

In conventional terms, tanks should be scared ****less of air power, at the moment they're not because it only takes one guy with a swarm launcher to scare the air power off.

An ELITE FPS guy with an ELITE tank build.
Oh kay then.

ELITE FPS guys with ELITE tank builds are OP.

Yeah lets buff the AV to the point where tank builds like yours are killable so that tank driving is pointless.
Ok.
You win.

Its not that 90 % of FPS folks are average and 10% are elite.
Nope its the 90% of folks that are horrible...ok noted.

Most epic response ever

You and your 2 gunners with aoe weapons cant hit a slow moving fatsuit ? Your prob right i bet hardly any hvy forge gunners get killed by tanks

yea you have a good point with that one.
If you then try to flank him so his cover is no longer giving cover well he would prob just sprint away or climb up one of the hills like a goat.
I'm with you buddy I hate the fact that heavys can run about and hide so easy. They need to be slower or somthing.

A tank is a KITTEN TANK!

Even a forge gunner should have trouble. it MUST take a team effort.

trus me, it is equally frustrating having a forge gunner bunny hopping around, or popping up from cover with a charged gun let loose a round, and then go back into hiding. We can't hit that, so NERF Forge guns!!!

See a trend here. STFU, learn to play.

a forge gunner bunny hopping

Did I actually just read this????

Wow, yea you're definitely a tank driver >_<

Why do people want to change the dynamics so a tank is destroyed faster but still destroys everything very quickly while it is alive? Wouldn't it be more interesting for the tanker and the infantry if the battles lasted longer and gave room for more tactics by balancing the turrets and terrain instead?