All these conversations about AV infantry vs Tanks; very few people seem to consider that drop ships should also be factored in. They already get blasted out of the air on a whim by pretty much everything, if you buff AV infantry more this is just going to get worse.

In conventional terms, tanks should be scared ****less of air power, at the moment they're not because it only takes one guy with a swarm launcher to scare the air power off.

Drop ship > Tank > Infantry > Drop ship ..... the cycle itself isn't balanced

Sure! lets buff a Myron! its not like I spent an entire match! shooting at one with my tanks railgun!!
Two guys with forge guns versus a sagaris??
Yeah those numbers sound bitching and leaves the poor forgegunners in slow heavy suits far behind versus the faster sagaris.
Yeah, yeah its not like the heavy can chase down the sagaris in a FREE MILITIA LAV right, right?......er wait!!

And its not like guys like Timesplitter can instapop my gunnlogi or three shot a sagaris......er wait!!

So what YOU and others "want"??? is a heavy marauder tank that anyone can kill with a sidearm pistol??
Right since tanks are so "overpowered" that a tank driver can go AFK for a soda and the tank is still there with no damage instead of being insta toast the moment the tank stops moving??

Proto? dude! please!
Militia suit with basic assault forge gun and two buddies in same fits.
Militia lav with resists and extenders can survive unless its driven by a fool that decides to park it.

Noc Tempre drives up to my tank in a lav and jumps out and two shots my tank.

What ifs and numbers sound cool.

I PREFER IN GAME RESULTS! instead of THEORY.
Results so far are my tanks die!!

Sorry if the results disagree with your THEORY.

Your horrible in tanks then. Not once has a corp mate of mine lost one of my tanks on his very first time in one to AV infantry.

I really mean that..the very very first time they have ever driven a tank and no I didnt babysit them with RR.

Tanks should be balanced by one squad against an other squad.

What I mean is a squad of four militia suits should be able to take down a squad in. Militia tank.

A proto tank should wreck the squad of AV militia but fear a full squad full of proto heavies. People say "oh tanks. Ohhh tanks are SO expensive!" but a squad of four heavies in proto gear is just as expensive but also is vulnerable to everything else in the game. Tanks can't die to a militia scrambler pistol but heavies can.

Heavy tanks also shouldn't be able to roll around without infantry support without bein swarmed and disabled by enemy infantry. There needs to be a way for regular infantry to disable any type of tank. For instance if I'm able to jump on top of a tank I should be able to shoot or kill the crew of it. Or hack it while on top. Or set RE explosives on top and blow it to hell and back.

I would also like to see heavies get 1) a bonus resistance against vehicles weapons.

Tanks can solo anything in this game except other tanks. I would love to see tank on tank battles but the problem is that tanks have no hard counters. Having to have half of the enem team switch to AV just to kill a squad of three is unacceptable. It should be balanced by three versus three/four. It's much easier coordination a team in a vehicle anyway.

Ahem to the OP you're forgetting to drop booste for extender, and natural shield recharge into account
Then bottom rowing with power diagnostics which increase shield recharge rates and amount.

What we have here is a land drake. Eith an effective EHP in the 20k+ shields.

You also forgot to take skills into account ont eh tank driver side.

Either way the natural shield regenreation on some of these buffer tanks would recharge damage lost to an assault forge gun in about 4 seconds.

Also on muraders there is natural resists too.

More like 600-700 damage a shot with mods unless you want to do it all in ehp math.

Shield Amounts/shields per second and from current observations the shield in dust 514 are not scaled so that 30% of shields is peak recharge. However there is a scale os some sorts as 90% shields on vehicles take the longer than 10% to rechage. How much this 'arc' goes up and down is not yet well known or understood. Where as in eve's its more like shields at 30-40% having 1.5% recharge rage vs 95% shields 0.25 rate.

I unfourutnately dont sit down in front of a spread sheet to get exact numbers, maybe I should.

yea you have a good point with that one.
If you then try to flank him so his cover is no longer giving cover well he would prob just sprint away or climb up one of the hills like a goat.
I'm with you buddy I hate the fact that heavys can run about and hide so easy. They need to be slower or somthing.