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Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.10 10:31:00 -
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If any of you guys saw the "new item to come" topic on this forum, you may have notice some pretty good stuff to come.
BUT, you may also have noticed this specific item and its description :
Basic Auto-Detonator - Bomb that goes off upon death that's strong enough to kill nearby infantry
So, who else feels like this is really the kind of stuff this game doesnt need ? Who, on the other hand, sees this as good addition ?
Personally, i don't see the point of it. Except adding some frustrations. I can already picture lagged Scout using Nova knifes with damage mod and this explosive device, rushing people everywhere...... Killing their target everytime, either with the knife or with bomb device when killed first.
Seriously, just dont go that way CCP. |
Vickers S Grunt
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
67
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Posted - 2012.09.10 10:34:00 -
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I realy dont want to be killed in a expencive suit buy someone when all thay had to do was die  |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.10 10:35:00 -
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Its a noob weapon and should not have a place in this game. If this comes in I will abuse the hell out of it with throw away alts just like everyone else.
Edit also if this comes in say good bye to all close combat weapon systems cos the will just = death by noob. |
Rains Akkadian
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.10 10:35:00 -
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Imagine jumping out of a drop ship into an objective busy with enemies and not bothering to activate inertial dampeners.
I wonder what the range of the boom would be ;) |
dust badger
BetaMax.
283
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Posted - 2012.09.10 10:36:00 -
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yeah im not in favor of this, my biggest concern is what happens when friendly fire comes in and there is a group of you and they kill the guy with this fitted, would you take out the whole squad ?
the only way i could see this working (mind you i wouldn't like it implemented at all) is to have only enough damage to finish some one off, say you have a good fight and its close you went down and the guy that shot you has a sliver of health left then this would be enough to kill him but by no means if some one gets a clean kill on you and then it takes them out, thats just stupid.
on the other hand, i see this as a way to stop LAVs running over people as they will get a nasty surprise :) |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.09.10 10:52:00 -
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I could be very close range, so if you shoot him he dies out of blast range. Say, blast radius same as mass driver would make it pretty easy to kill while out of blast, but make vest useful vs circling scouts and knife attacks. If it is a module that takes slot to basicly always have grenade cooking it won't be to bad, buff to snipers if you can snipe one in tight grouped squad. |
Seamie Schmoove
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
64
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:13:00 -
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Seriously!! Cod's Martyrdom or however you spell that word. I should know how seein as it popped up for
every second farkin guy you shot who would then magically burst into flames killing you....
What next? Killstreaks? Second Chance? If its gonna be implemented I would hope it won't kill
you at full shields and armour. |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
648
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:14:00 -
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My answer to this is make the CPU/PG requirements so high that you can only carry a scrambler pistol with it, and you must self detonate. In other words yiu have a clacker and run at someone and explode yourself... But no CoD martyrdom! |
Seamie Schmoove
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
64
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:14:00 -
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Or if some idiot has it and you kill him and it goes off near his squad it damages them too! |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:20:00 -
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Imma use it next build tbh
Infact everyone will prob use it next build if they can
Only way to balance it is to make the CPU/PG really high so only proto can fit it |
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Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
1003
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:25:00 -
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Step 1.) Hold grenade in hand.
Step 2.) Run up on tank.
Step 3.) Pull pin - count to ten.
Step 4.) Explode.
Step 5.) Watch Auto-Detonator finish off tank upon self-immolated death.
No more over-powered tanks because of suicide bombing scout suits. |
Gauder Berwyck
Deadly Blue Dots
RISE of LEGION
217
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:26:00 -
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I wanna add my "baaad idea!" mojo to this thread! |
Billi Gene
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
130
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:39:00 -
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it will see over use to begin with, of that no doubt, everyone will want to see how it works.
I'd suggest making more then one fitting though, have a fitting without the AD.
The optimal place to use AD would be small Ambush maps, where people tend to crowd alot. Its use in this context would be to discourage enemies from running in and spraying death, and also as a traditional suicide run into camped enemies.
On larger maps AR's are still king. The exception being with speed tanking, shotgun toting scouts. I sincerely hope the blast radius is enough to discourage speed tanking scouts in the least  , or at least give them a healthy respect for "personal space".
Sincerely,
A Heavy Suit.
:P
edit:
don't quote me on this but i do believe that Smart Bombs in Eve predate CoD's version of Auto-detonation bomb vests w/e |
Kyy Seiska
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
188
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:39:00 -
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You people all running as shotgun/SMG fairies or just often using Assault rifle in bad places? Besides, when and if the game gets team damage I wouldn't want to be wearing one of those... |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:43:00 -
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LoL friendly fire. This came up in feedback and I said lol. Terrible terrible idea. What's the prototype AUR variety like? Set of when crushed? LoL CCP. |
Jebus McKing
DUST University
Ivy League
24
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:51:00 -
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No, just no... no, no, NO... NO-HOHOHOHOOOW
I always hated this kind of stuff in other games and even in those games everybody hated this and the competitive scene always banned these. So why include them here? |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:54:00 -
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Because CCP aren't looking to learn from the mistakes of others it seems. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:54:00 -
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in EVE there is griefin
i see this as DUST version lol
gonna be interesting, especially funny when ppl go in for teabags and get blown up by a smartbomb
good times ahead, tears will flow im sure lol
good thing im never in cqc range with how **** the hit detection is atm |
Dusty Mokong
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
61
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:55:00 -
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This has GoonSwarm written all over it .... |
Daalzebul Del'Armgo
D3LTA FORC3
Orion Empire
48
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:02:00 -
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You get paid to win anyway you can.
Starts training 3 year old how to run at enemies in game since he can't shoot worth a kitty cat. Sit back and laugh every time he actually gets a kill. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:13:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Its a noob weapon and should not have a place in this game. If this comes in I will abuse the hell out of it with throw away alts just like everyone else.
Edit also if this comes in say good bye to all close combat weapon systems cos the will just = death by noob.
You'd e a noob to be caught in its blast. |
dust badger
BetaMax.
283
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:15:00 -
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i wonder if its instant as soon as you die or takes a while like 3 secs, aslo going back to friendly fire, what happens if you blled out as a logi bro trys to heal you lol |
Ignatius Crumwald
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
475
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:49:00 -
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I guess if they start flashing and beeping really loud for a second or two before the blast it might be sort of funny.
I think it should be something that has a high enough CPU/PG that it would require a certain level suit before you could even fit one (Maybe even the suit itself would have to be a special exploding suit.) just so no one is running around with a derka derka freebee suit. |
HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2242
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:57:00 -
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Definetly no.
This is something that will be used against heavy suits more. We cant run away and are slow targets, will ruin the heavy suit completely, any one remember remote explosives? Those made the game unplayable! |
LivewireProblem
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.09.10 13:27:00 -
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CCP Please dont add this :(
Can anybody imagine this skill paired up with the cloak ability that is being discussed  |
Patches The Hyena
204
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Posted - 2012.09.10 13:32:00 -
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Yeah this is a terrible idea. |
Onieros Dreamwalker
7
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Posted - 2012.09.10 13:50:00 -
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This is a bad idea. |
Ghural
The Southern Legion
63
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Posted - 2012.09.10 13:55:00 -
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I saw them on the market on the EVE test server. They are called 'Smart Bombs', no stats yet though. |
Corban Lahnder
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
158
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:25:00 -
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If old RE = annoying
This = more annoying
Lets keep dust Martyr free.
It wont kill tanks trust me. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:41:00 -
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Glad to see 99% of us also thinks it's a crappy thing to add to the game.
I see people suggesting that it would be your fault to be caught in the blast but would you really have a chance against a CQC fighter with knife and this bomb ?
New nova knives with the new skills + damage mods + dead switch bomb => Tenchu 514 |
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