DUST Search - Calling All Logistics, a Logi Opportunity

RedBleach wrote:

Cross Atu wrote:

I'm pretty new to Dust (IGN "support" never fixed the issues with my code so I had to way for CCP to let all EVE players in before I started playing) but Logi is one of the two roles I've been liking.

Having said that (and having played EVE) I am confident that there are all sorts of important things about running as a Logi that I'm clueless about at present. Any feedback for those of us who are new (to the game or to Logi) and have the will but do not yet know the way?

Cheers,
Cross

ps ~ like the idea of the OP :)

LogiBro forever!

Battle Support is critical. One of the best things a Logi/Med can do is level up your nanite injectors to fully rez your team mates and get your NanoHives to rep armour... but only if your in a team with comms - don't use it for randoms.

On top of that the proto has 4 high and 4 low. You are the only suit that could max out damage with modules and put biotics on the lows to sprint like the devil. Or shield up or armor up and become the walking tank repper... so many possibilities. Shocked

But, very skill heavy and module centric

Standard play is usually to max Weaponry skill first: you must support your team, defend and take out enemies to create a safe area to rez a teammate.

BUY AND USE the non-milita version often, the one with three equipment slots. YOUR first loadout equipment should be a NANITE injector, Drop Uplink, nanite supply. Then second build replaces the droplink with the repair tool. Spawn with the first, play till death. If ever the drop uplink goes down you spawn with the first again. Make militia versions with the nanite injectors and 1Droplink, 2Supply, 3Repper. 3 limited militia builds but wont cost you any money.

Your Logi has ONE weapon slot - make it count. Consider maxing a weapon, I usually run a tactical assault rifle for picking off stragglers and snipers or a mass driver, still glitchy and complicated.

Get you Dropsuit skill up - To the Advanced level and proto eventually if you run with a team (can be done later) for all those module and equipment slots

Get your nano's and electronics up for rezzing and resupply

Mechanics for hp and armor

The Repairing and Remote repping could be done later

Shields are important, make you live longer

that is just a few basics. more to come

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RedBleach 50	Posted - 2012.09.10 07:01:00 - [1] - Quote It is a Blessing and a Curse to be a Logi. The Logistics character is skill intensive and any team that has one is fortunate. We keep the team alive: we rep, rez, resupply, and backup infantry, installations, and vehicles - though our teams may not always use us to do that. The lack of comms and teamwork inherent in random battles can be frustrating when your walking around in the armor of a scout suit and the speed of a heavy (best of both worlds, yay). Not complaining, just saying that we are better at supporting the slayers than fighting them. A skilled Logi is a great asset to any team. But what about when your team is not there? When your clan, corp, alliance is not holding a major battle or are just not online. There are teams out there who want a skilled Logi, and may be willing to pay for it (future build). or, maybe you just want to keep playing your class and reap the rewards of contracts that other teams are participating in. We are creating an option. Logistics Brokering(I'm sure pilots, and others will soon make their own groups) LogiMercs are a rare breed. When EVE and the New Eden economy finally get put with Dust514 your mercenary skills are going to be needed, and you have a price, Embrace IT. I have created a channel for all logi's to join and for those seeking logi's to post their desired number of logi's for the team. In this limited beta build teams are random, but for the future they may want one in every squad, who knows? Each team will figure out what they want. I am not familiar with all the social media or corporate workings in EVE, but my corp, and Alliance are. I am working with them to create open Logistics Brokering (LogiBros) to clans, corps, and maybe even Inter-Alliance. This is for Logi's to come together. Perhaps you can do it better, make it bigger and better,... then help me. While this will be great it will also be a large undertaking. IFF you want to help, or If you are a Logi, Then post your desire to be a part of this and we'll get in contact. Logistics Brokering 23 - the open chat channel that will be used to request Logi's (till we get bigger) LogiBro 23 - private channel for Logi's to group up, etc. Pass: forever514 If you need help or can help please post
Telemachus AREMNi 11	Posted - 2012.09.10 07:11:00 - [2] - Quote I like the idea, it reminds me of the hauling corp's in EVE, plus I'm sure it'll be nice for Corps to have dedicated Logi teams they can hire. That being said, what are the requirements to join? and the way you wrote it makes it seem like as if you could be in your own corp while still be a LogiBro?
Minmatar Slave 74136 Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 291	Posted - 2012.09.10 07:12:00 - [3] - Quote I endorse this product/service. grease monkeys, wrench turners, or nanite jockeys, Logibros keep the war machine rolling...
Tectonious Falcon 23	Posted - 2012.09.10 07:14:00 - [4] - Quote I play logistics all the time so I'm in.
GR1NCH Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 199	Posted - 2012.09.10 08:14:00 - [5] - Quote i would love to be a part of this played logi since E3 build , great idea top marks to the op.
RedBleach 50	Posted - 2012.09.10 08:19:00 - [6] - Quote Telemachus AREMNi wrote: I like the idea, it reminds me of the hauling corp's in EVE, plus I'm sure it'll be nice for Corps to have dedicated Logi teams they can hire. That being said, what are the requirements to join? and the way you wrote it makes it seem like as if you could be in your own corp while still be a LogiBro? Working on the details, I'll have them in a day or two. Thanks for the interest, it seems to be well received
Cross Atu Conspiratus Immortalis 775	Posted - 2012.09.10 08:22:00 - [7] - Quote I'm pretty new to Dust (IGN "support" never fixed the issues with my code so I had to way for CCP to let all EVE players in before I started playing) but Logi is one of the two roles I've been liking. Having said that (and having played EVE) I am confident that there are all sorts of important things about running as a Logi that I'm clueless about at present. Any feedback for those of us who are new (to the game or to Logi) and have the will but do not yet know the way? Cheers, Cross ps ~ like the idea of the OP :)
Kovinis Sparagas Final Fortress Happy Tree Fiends 58	Posted - 2012.09.10 08:38:00 - [8] - Quote sounds interesting, count me in!
Vain Michael Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.09.10 08:49:00 - [9] - Quote Sounds good, sign me up! I love being a Logi.
The Last Shepherd Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2012.09.10 09:28:00 - [10] - Quote I'm in! I play logistic at the mo and plan to be a logistic in the main game, at the moment I'm playing with skills to see the best way to max usefulness. Has anyone taken out a tank with the remote explosives????

RedBleach 50	Posted - 2012.09.10 19:17:00 - [11] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: I'm pretty new to Dust (IGN "support" never fixed the issues with my code so I had to way for CCP to let all EVE players in before I started playing) but Logi is one of the two roles I've been liking. Having said that (and having played EVE) I am confident that there are all sorts of important things about running as a Logi that I'm clueless about at present. Any feedback for those of us who are new (to the game or to Logi) and have the will but do not yet know the way? Cheers, Cross ps ~ like the idea of the OP :) LogiBro forever! Battle Support is critical. One of the best things a Logi/Med can do is level up your nanite injectors to fully rez your team mates and get your NanoHives to rep armour... but only if your in a team with comms - don't use it for randoms. On top of that the proto has 4 high and 4 low. You are the only suit that could max out damage with modules and put biotics on the lows to sprint like the devil. Or shield up or armor up and become the walking tank repper... so many possibilities. But, very skill heavy and module centric Standard play is usually to max Weaponry skill first: you must support your team, defend and take out enemies to create a safe area to rez a teammate. BUY AND USE the non-milita version often, the one with three equipment slots. YOUR first loadout equipment should be a NANITE injector, Drop Uplink, nanite supply. Then second build replaces the droplink with the repair tool. Spawn with the first, play till death. If ever the drop uplink goes down you spawn with the first again. Make militia versions with the nanite injectors and 1Droplink, 2Supply, 3Repper. 3 limited militia builds but wont cost you any money. Your Logi has ONE weapon slot - make it count. Consider maxing a weapon, I usually run a tactical assault rifle for picking off stragglers and snipers or a mass driver, still glitchy and complicated. Get you Dropsuit skill up - To the Advanced level and proto eventually if you run with a team (can be done later) for all those module and equipment slots Get your nano's and electronics up for rezzing and resupply Mechanics for hp and armor The Repairing and Remote repping could be done later Shields are important, make you live longer that is just a few basics. more to come
Van Aewulf Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 95	Posted - 2012.09.10 19:25:00 - [12] - Quote I think the idea is really cool. I'm interested in trying a logistics dropsuit out, but I'm a sniper by trade. If you ever have any need for one of those hit me up!
Anton Wilson2 Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2012.09.10 19:36:00 - [13] - Quote I enjoy logging - count me in. It would be nice to be appreciated for once in this role. If you are hiring them out then at least you know that you are getting and giving a service. I have a lvl 4 logi suit and with the mil sp that is coming I should have access to proto weapons and at least lvl 4 nanite injectors. I am also carrying the medical nanohive so that they can auto repair personnel. Give me a shout when you are up and running, I will definitly be in on this.
Baal Jagorin Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2012.09.10 20:03:00 - [14] - Quote I am so in on this! I love being the swiss army knife of ground forces, despite lack of defenses and mobility. I'm also Minmatar for life, Trust in RUST baby!
Cid Egdald ZionTCD Legacy Rising 20	Posted - 2012.09.10 20:10:00 - [15] - Quote Ive been playing logi for a bit but dumping SP in I would say random places. This has got me thinking maybe I should create a dedicated logi.
IR Scifi Algintal Core Gallente Federation 18	Posted - 2012.09.10 22:40:00 - [16] - Quote I love this idea, a dedicated corp of logibros. I've been relegated to casual weekend play lately because of RL responsibilities but if I get that sorted I'd be all for getting in on this.
Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 836	Posted - 2012.09.11 01:44:00 - [17] - Quote A channel that is named after me? Sweet.
Nathan Lander Interstellar Brotherhood of Eternal Warfare 3	Posted - 2012.09.11 02:13:00 - [18] - Quote Ill join up. I'm quite enjoying the Logi atm. Though the command (Crusader?) suit is coming, and i do love EWar. Its a part of my Caldari blood.
Tarralis ZionTCD Legacy Rising 18	Posted - 2012.09.11 02:32:00 - [19] - Quote I'm in. Still have to train up a bit. my game hung on my best run too....
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1060	Posted - 2012.09.11 02:35:00 - [20] - Quote Logi+heavy=love i usually see a logi running behind a heavy with a repair tool. Reminds me kinda of team fortress 2. In my opinion a logi should allways stay behind his team to not get shot in the face. If the logi dies your supply of extra ammo and armor repair is basically gone. Most of the time i never see a logi and thats why i try to be aible to survive the longest time without logi support. Means i roll a type 2 assault suit with improved shields, a armor repair and a module that reduces the time till the shield charges start. Combined with a assault rifle, av grenades and a nano hive.

Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.09.11 02:38:00 - [21] - Quote I'm skilling up my LogiBro skills right now, it's safe to say Logistics is my preferred role, though it is under appreciated and under used. Count me in for this community project.
Shiro Mokuzan 220	Posted - 2012.09.11 02:43:00 - [22] - Quote So...it's a channel for logistics to find a group? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm making sure I'm not missing something here. It just seems like a very grandiose thread to announce a channel, that's all. Anyway, I mostly play logistics, at least I did, but now with randoms, I rarely do, because...well, I'm playing with randoms. In an organized squad/team, I'd like to play logistics, since I prefer support roles.
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 967	Posted - 2012.09.11 03:13:00 - [23] - Quote I play logi in most of my random matches and most teams figure it out pretty quick. Heavies really need logi if they are to stay in the fight. I recommend playing logi in random matches, it will give you some perspective on the role. Also have a truck, gives you more options if you have a lav handy. I wish I could mark my truck somehow to keep blues from stealing it, but its cheap enough I just call down another.
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.09.11 04:15:00 - [24] - Quote Shiro Mokuzan wrote: So...it's a channel for logistics to find a group? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm making sure I'm not missing something here. It just seems like a very grandiose thread to announce a channel, that's all. Anyway, I mostly play logistics, at least I did, but now with randoms, I rarely do, because...well, I'm playing with randoms. In an organized squad/team, I'd like to play logistics, since I prefer support roles. The idea is for Logi's to have a quick portal for finding contracts.
Martin0 Brancaleone Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 191	Posted - 2012.09.11 06:08:00 - [25] - Quote One more LogiBro here!
Cross Atu Conspiratus Immortalis 775	Posted - 2012.09.12 00:27:00 - [26] - Quote RedBleach wrote: Cross Atu wrote: I'm pretty new to Dust (IGN "support" never fixed the issues with my code so I had to way for CCP to let all EVE players in before I started playing) but Logi is one of the two roles I've been liking. Having said that (and having played EVE) I am confident that there are all sorts of important things about running as a Logi that I'm clueless about at present. Any feedback for those of us who are new (to the game or to Logi) and have the will but do not yet know the way? Cheers, Cross ps ~ like the idea of the OP :) LogiBro forever! Battle Support is critical. One of the best things a Logi/Med can do is level up your nanite injectors to fully rez your team mates and get your NanoHives to rep armour... but only if your in a team with comms - don't use it for randoms. On top of that the proto has 4 high and 4 low. You are the only suit that could max out damage with modules and put biotics on the lows to sprint like the devil. Or shield up or armor up and become the walking tank repper... so many possibilities. But, very skill heavy and module centric Standard play is usually to max Weaponry skill first: you must support your team, defend and take out enemies to create a safe area to rez a teammate. BUY AND USE the non-milita version often, the one with three equipment slots. YOUR first loadout equipment should be a NANITE injector, Drop Uplink, nanite supply. Then second build replaces the droplink with the repair tool. Spawn with the first, play till death. If ever the drop uplink goes down you spawn with the first again. Make militia versions with the nanite injectors and 1Droplink, 2Supply, 3Repper. 3 limited militia builds but wont cost you any money. Your Logi has ONE weapon slot - make it count. Consider maxing a weapon, I usually run a tactical assault rifle for picking off stragglers and snipers or a mass driver, still glitchy and complicated. Get you Dropsuit skill up - To the Advanced level and proto eventually if you run with a team (can be done later) for all those module and equipment slots Get your nano's and electronics up for rezzing and resupply Mechanics for hp and armor The Repairing and Remote repping could be done later Shields are important, make you live longer that is just a few basics. more to come Thanks for the response and info (looking forward to the "more to come" ) I've started to skill up more fully and have to say that the extra slot on that Logi Type I is great to have even for a Logi nooblet the SP/ISK ratio for running with those is well worth it IMO. And really looking forward to being able to deploy some of those high tier hives/injectors/uplinks because their comparative effect looks pretty sweet. I feel like my armor repping is a bit sluggish/less effective than the other aspects. It may be an due to the others being placement based while the repping requires keeping up with specific squad mates (when playing sans comms anyway). However I'd be interested in any tips regarding how to optimize the effectiveness of the repair tool (either on the player skill side or the SP/fittings side). Cheers, Cross
RedBleach 50	Posted - 2012.09.12 06:45:00 - [27] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: A channel that is named after me? Sweet. It was a good name the 23 is for the server time of 23/7
RedBleach 50	Posted - 2012.09.12 07:09:00 - [28] - Quote OK HERE IS THE MORE TO COME Looking at the system in which EVE functions a person can only work for ONE corp. at a time and a corp can belong to one alliance at a time. The Problems (for every idea like this) As far as I can tell there are no sub-corp options. To that end a mercenary would have to change corporations every time they wanted to work for another corporation or be contracted by another corporation. While this is possible your work history would show the player jumping from place to place with no loyalty. Also there are time limits in eve, on must wait 24hrs before switching to another corp. The Alliances matter. Even if there was some way to have a sub corporation you could never merc the alliance that your corporation is connected to. It is a safety mechanism to slow traitors, espionage, or a player throwing the match... or fixing it. And again, your work history would reflect it. True Mercenary work would be difficult to pull off, Unless there was an Alliance of logi's... and that doesn't work because without the other skills and connections of the other classes the alliance/corp would grow stagnant and couldn't be competitive. The solution if CCP got involved. Create sub-corporations for mercenaries that were ALLIANCE NEUTRAL, allowing one to join and attack with any campaign. Allow dual corporation membership. Of course some might suggest using an alt character for these kinds of things... but the way we work, that doesn't make so much sense. Also, this is just the beta. Perhaps the full launch will open up many more possibilities. My Current Solution. With the original idea kinda shot down I have another offering. Use the chat channels. If you would like to join up I am making a Logi-centric branch in my current CLAN and Corp. Lets talk. Maybe you would like to interview and join, and maybe not. If not, that's fine - go with your clan or corporation and move on. But maybe you want a group that will talk about custom builds and an Alliance that will help fund mass equipment purchases for a well built team with organized logi's... and the pay? Well, you get what you earn Merc. This idea was killed in it's infancy.
fenrir storm Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 314	Posted - 2012.09.12 08:13:00 - [29] - Quote Some thing I planned on playing but atm they seem a bit of a mishmash, slow squishy and dont get the point return for there work or sp investment. But once these things are sorted it will be the suit I use, they deserve to be well rewarded for the trade off they make in other deparments.
InfectedPhantom Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.09.13 03:33:00 - [30] - Quote Im in. :D



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