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PHAROAH AMEN RA
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.10 13:48:00 -
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Immersion in a game can start with the sound effects. Hopefully the guns and theirs sounds gets improved to make the player say holy freakin crap a plasma AR wtf YEAH I WANNA FIRE THIS GUN or any gun here for that matter.
someone on this forum said "TEAMWORK MAKES THE DREAM WORK". If the talking was diff ppl would communicate more. Its not just the communication inside ur squad, what about sqaud to squad or squad to platoon or whatever. I think u get my add on. The communication in MAG from platoon leader to squad leaders worked for the most part and made the squad leader immersed in his job JMO. Dont forget in MAG when the whole platoon knew its job it was a thing of beauty and SVER were the kings of revive. Everyone had a medkit and would run across the board to pick ppl up. If the logi cant comminicate with his potential pick up, why wait just press circle but if you heard "IM COMMIN MAN HOLD ON, ALMOST THERE" you just might wait.
Maybe the voice telling u get to the burnzone should also say to squad leaders set ur objectives. |
iiClash
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:15:00 -
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There will always be "Noobs". In every game that comes out, it's just that lack of action that most casual gamers have, if you've played any other FPS then this game should be easy, honestly i've been going 20-5 ish and im sure it we will all do CRAZY good when the game comes out and we feast on the non-beta testers. Just wait. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:18:00 -
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For me its being a lone wolf, it trains me up not to rely on teammates that I don't know so well. |
Loss Tovas
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
236
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:23:00 -
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iiClash wrote:There will always be "Noobs". In every game that comes out, it's just that lack of action that most casual gamers have, if you've played any other FPS then this game should be easy, honestly i've been going 20-5 ish and im sure it we will all do CRAZY good when the game comes out and we feast on the non-beta testers. Just wait.
This is possible but I am not so sure. Since we will have highsec and lowsec, which will in turn determine what gear we can field (so I have heard), killing nubs is going to put us roughly on the same field gear wise and if it is anything like EVE then you will see noobcorps that will operate in those highsec areas. That coordination will make it a bit tougher to farm the nubs.
When this thing launches the best thing someone can do, IMO, is get their kitten in a corp and work work work. 0.0 is the destination and has the greatest rewards. Besides, why farm nubs when you can just steal planets from EVE players? |
Corban Lahnder
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
158
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:49:00 -
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oldgrump wrote:I'm new at dust & still trying to figure out WTH is going on. Been checking forums & reading all I can find & still lost. This is a much different game then I am used to (BF3) & it will take some time Hope u will bear with me.
Old grump join this in game chanel. ziontcd
We can offer you alot of in game training and help.
Dust is complicated compared to all other fps except maybe ps2. When you add in the server bugs etc, it can be really frustrating.
If you need guidance and a group of informative people to run with please pay us a visit.
I want to get you help before you toss in your controller and leave the beta. |
drake sadani
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:00:00 -
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i have had my pass for 2 days . . i have not yet modified my heavy suit.. also skills are taking up alot of my time . but if i cannot fight up front adequately . i go to the back and drop nano hives for everyone . the best thing i did when i started was i sat back and watched what all the people in really nice armor with high grade weapons where doing.
that and i played two matches and played with my suits some. while in game its fairly simple take a point on the map . hold it until its yours them move on like capture the flag . .
when its just killing clones its death match .
skills work like tier unlocking in bf3 . but with more detail and hoops to jump trough.
after the second match i had everything down for battle . its taken me a bit longer to go trough all the suits and vehicles .
i have come to hate PG and CPU requirements and skill need . i have super advanced swarm launchers that i got as loot ........ but i cannot use them |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:08:00 -
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Yeah, that's kinda worrying Drake.
@All dem nOObs If you see me in game, message me, and we'll hook up. I'm happy to help you guys. But just ignore me when I start raging. I've played with several "mentor" clans before. I'm not looking at that when Dust is released, but until then I'll play with any one. Except people who spend all game talking about carebears, 0.0 and drakes. Wrong game. |
drake sadani
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:12:00 -
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lol sorry i edited tony >< i thought it was off topic and i would get warbled at lol . but yes he had no idea of gun safety . and all thanks to COD . which has the intelligence of this http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/001/625/135891.jpg also wrong game ? i is confused now >< |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.09.10 17:26:00 -
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I hope your clone never reanimates.
See, how do you like it when people pop into your threads and spew hateful things? What an ass (speaking of OP, Tony Calif). |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.10 18:27:00 -
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I love your rage. LoL. Feed me sniper tears lol. I could do another thread before my "tony's quick guide to skirmish." I could do one all about sniping, and how it's ineffective, KBM advantage, why people get killed with AR's when they're a sniper, that kinda thing. But I'd really rather concentrate on getting those who are actually going to the objectives, hacking them too. And getting there alive (mostly). |
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Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.09.10 18:36:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:I love your rage. LoL. Feed me sniper tears lol. I could do another thread before my "tony's quick guide to skirmish." I could do one all about sniping, and how it's ineffective, KBM advantage, why people get killed with AR's when they're a sniper, that kinda thing. But I'd really rather concentrate on getting those who are actually going to the objectives, hacking them too. And getting there alive (mostly).
You get there alive from Intel and covery fire from a sniper position.
What are you on dude? Sniper tears? Do you take drugs, son? C'mon man, what the hell do you know about tactical combat? Did you serve as a private in the military for 4 years? Think that makes you a master of tactical skirmish combat?
Maybe you don't get there alive very often because you're incorrectly utilizing the combat roles available to you. Perhaps you should rethink what you think you know about combat.
And lastly, what you did is considered hate speech. You wished a detrimental outcome (permanent death) on a specific class of persons (snipers) for nothing more than being what they are. Are you also a white supremacist from the deep south who attacks blacks and gays randomly for nothing more than being who they are? What do you stand for? You act like a child who only recently received internet privileges. Retaliating the way I did was unacceptable, I'll admit that.
Do you even have a job? |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.10 18:45:00 -
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U mad? eRage much? I actually have the week off, and I AM from the deep south... Of England. I'll address snipers in my quick guide to skirmish, and you can tell me I'm doing it wrong. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.09.10 18:57:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:U mad? eRage much? I actually have the week off, and I AM from the deep south... Of England. I'll address snipers in my quick guide to skirmish, and you can tell me I'm doing it wrong.
If you had anything valid to provide I'd gladly review it, but frankly if you have the week off and can't write a valid well thought out post on the detriment of sniping then I question the authenticity of even the remarks you just made.
Maybe you're from the deep south of England, but I pity the poor Englishmen who have to claim you as their own.
Sir, you may be reading what I'm saying as 'e-rage', because that's how you want to read it. I'm simply stating what I see as the facts of this conversation.
You're a hateful lad, from the cliffs of Dover or the tips of Cornwall (edit: just as an example, nothing against Dover or Cornwall specifically), that believes he has some superior knowledge to tactical combat and can prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that snipers not only are useless to combat but act as a detriment to the battlefield as a whole (in this case: specifically skirmish mode). You seem to believe that your own UK military, the US military, and any modern warfare institution has wasted millions of man hours, lives, and training on a class of combat persons that are just simply useless to everyone on the battlefield. This goes for Intel, cover from a distance, altogether 'thinning the numbers', or simply providing distraction. In fact, the use of this class is so common that it's in almost every combat game out there. So, sir, I cannot wait to see your 'quick guide to skirmish', where you prove to the rest of the world that snipers just aren't very good and should have friendly guns turned on them at the sight of a sniper rifle. You sir are our enemy, but not just to us, your ideas are dangerous to humanity at large. The ignorant vitriol you spew only serves to prove my point.
Your whole premise reeks of e-rage. Like somebody keeps shooting you from far away and so you lash out against the entire community. Clones die, it happens. It's ok. Let it all out. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.09.10 18:58:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:CCP allowed group hacking so why don't you do it? CCP put in a an objective mode, why don't you guys go for the objectives? CCP put in the ability to customise your fit, why don't you make an Av fit which isn't a heavy with swarm launcher?
Answers please. I've had game after game where I am winning things for my team. Pick up the slack FFS.
wish i was as good as you |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.09.10 19:30:00 -
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Corban Lahnder wrote:oldgrump wrote:I'm new at dust & still trying to figure out WTH is going on. Been checking forums & reading all I can find & still lost. This is a much different game then I am used to (BF3) & it will take some time Hope u will bear with me. Old grump join this in game chanel. ziontcd We can offer you alot of in game training and help. Dust is complicated compared to all other fps except maybe ps2. When you add in the server bugs etc, it can be really frustrating. If you need guidance and a group of informative people to run with please pay us a visit. I want to get you help before you toss in your controller and leave the beta.
ya old grump, u need to squad up with some vets, i hear these guys are good. if they are full my squads sometimes have a spot open, or we know good ppl who are LFS (looking for squad/mates) hopefully we get 6 man squads soon so the rumor goes. |
Altaree Draeden
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.09.10 20:12:00 -
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They need to change the default from "squad chat/listen to voice off" to "team chat/listen to voice on" even for those w/o mics. Having to remember to reset this EVERY time we restart eve is one of the reasons people aren't on chat if they don't organize a squad before they enter battle. |
G Torq
ALTA B2O
88
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Posted - 2012.09.11 08:43:00 -
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Baal Jagorin wrote:I have a problem with these squad based FPS games which results in me usually having the most out of balanced K/D in the game. I'm a squad / platoon leader. I charge in where others won't and I expect my men to follow me. While this works 99% of the time in BF3 with my platoon, the lack of cooridination, no, lack of basic cooperation at the squad level kind of kills Dust for me so far, but I am trying not to judge a beta.
(Noob here, not just to Dust, but to FPSes in general)
Questions:
A) How do I avoid becoming a squad leader? I've noticed being one a few times, and if others are better suited (care about it), I'll gladly yield the spot!
B) How do I recognize my squad leader on the HUD? Turquoise dots, 3 of them, all identical - which is the leader, that I'm supposed to follow?
C) How do I quickly issue squad commands? Not seen a tutorial pop up about it (or: not noticed one)?
D) How do I acknowledge a command from a squad leader? I've seen 1 or 2 requests to "Go to a point", but going there, waiting around did nothing, and the marker stayed there for the rest of the match.
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Billi Gene
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
130
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Posted - 2012.09.11 09:16:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:CCP allowed group hacking so why don't you do it? CCP put in a an objective mode, why don't you guys go for the objectives? CCP put in the ability to customise your fit, why don't you make an Av fit which isn't a heavy with swarm launcher?
Answers please. I've had game after game where I am winning things for my team. Pick up the slack FFS.
1. tanks, grenades 2. tanks 3. tanks
any other questions? |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
219
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Posted - 2012.09.17 12:35:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:CCP allowed group hacking so why don't you do it? CCP put in a an objective mode, why don't you guys go for the objectives? CCP put in the ability to customise your fit, why don't you make an Av fit which isn't a heavy with swarm launcher?
Answers please. I've had game after game where I am winning things for my team. Pick up the slack FFS.
2 self proclaimed pros: Zekain Kade, Tony Calif
fun fact! Tednugent smacked Zekain Kade and for more lulz: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=308161#post308161 |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.17 12:47:00 -
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No, I'm the scrubiest player in my MAG clan. LoL. But they're all playing CS.
Point is when FPS clans (such as STB) can actually roll in numbers I'll stop caring for randoms. I'm pretty used to playing against good players (like STB, EOS and nightmare) I'd just like the crappy ones to help. |
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Kaeralli Sturmovos
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
117
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Posted - 2012.09.17 12:51:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:CCP allowed group hacking so why don't you do it? CCP put in a an objective mode, why don't you guys go for the objectives? CCP put in the ability to customise your fit, why don't you make an Av fit which isn't a heavy with swarm launcher?
Answers please. I've had game after game where I am winning things for my team. Pick up the slack FFS.
simple, its not COD theres not much cover to hide behind.
cant get kills with aw3som3 "Spray n' Pray" without no cover!!! |
Jax GG
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2012.09.17 15:28:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:CCP allowed group hacking so why don't you do it? CCP put in a an objective mode, why don't you guys go for the objectives? CCP put in the ability to customise your fit, why don't you make an Av fit which isn't a heavy with swarm launcher?
Answers please. I've had game after game where I am winning things for my team. Pick up the slack FFS.
Very very simple.... and coming from a newb (I believe there is a difference between Noob and Newb)
WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT
I am posting like crazy on the forums currently as I have the time to do so, but I'd imagine many others out there do not.
Until this morning I didn't know what a Nano Hive was nor a Drop Link.
If you are so upset by us Noobs, then start a thread advising Noobs on how to play........... have you, for example, posted in the 'Tips, guides and strategies' thread?
Tony Calif wrote:CCP put in the ability to customise your fit, why don't you make an Av fit which isn't a heavy with swarm launcher?
Rather than asking " why we don't do it", tell us what works..... so in this case, how would you set it up?
Tony Calif wrote:CCP put in a an objective mode, why don't you guys go for the objectives?
Until this morning I didn't know there was extra bonus WP for doing this? How do we recognize an objective?
Apart from these forums there is scant information available and if you look at the forums I'd say only 1/10 threads are about learning. The rest are recruitment threads and complaints.
I'm not digging, but comments like this are just typical Tony Calif wrote:Pick up the slack FFS.
I'm not going to edit all of my comments, but I feel I should soften them a little as now that I am further through the thread I can see that you are clearly helping more than I initially though.
though, fact remains (not aimed at you), there is a lot to learn in this game.
For me getting even a little SP is proving tough as I am only getting around 2500 per game, which at that rate makes it impossible to progress. However, with tons of posting today I have learnt atlot and just need to wait for the Mrs and the little one to go out so I can test some of it
*EDIT*
Also, I think one thing that EVERYONE needs to take into account, is that this game, due to its EvE connections, is attracting players that have never/rarely played a FPS.
I can speak first hand for this as I am one of them. The last time I played a FPS was for about 10minutes 15 years or so ago when my little brother beat me at DOOM. Called me scarred but after that I have no even looked at one since...... until now.
If this game is able to attract players from games as established as many of the ones listed in this thread, AND has the ability to attract new players to the genre...... then it is truely capable of being something very special.... much like EvE is.
However, we, I, need your help. Not only is this a new game for me, it's a new Genre and it's on a platform that is relatively new to me too.... (PS3, incase you were wondering).
I'm trying......... I honestly am....... so I can assure you, it's not down to that that I suck.
Regards
Barrak |
Moonracer2000
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
311
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Posted - 2012.09.17 16:10:00 -
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there is the other element that people might be missing. This is a beta and some people are testing. I know a lot of you are old here and have tried everything out, and probably think that doesn't need to keep happening. And some of you just got into the beta to play the game early.
But I'm new to the beta, I want to try all the kit combos I can think of to see what works and what doesn't for myself. So often I'm playing with an awful kit, unable to help and dying a lot, but still trying to make it work. I've hardly touched vehicles so when I do (damn the controls suck!) I crash a lot or get blown up right away. |
Thomas Canalejo
69
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Posted - 2012.09.17 16:16:00 -
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COD is not a team based game its all about KD so you have all these ppl from COD starting this game. as you can see the rage quiting lol and not even to hack points A B C D E this was not going on a a few months ago |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
219
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Posted - 2012.09.17 16:18:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:No, I'm the scrubiest player in my MAG clan. LoL. But they're all playing CS.
Point is when FPS clans (such as STB) can actually roll in numbers I'll stop caring for randoms. I'm pretty used to playing against good players (like STB, EOS and nightmare) I'd just like the crappy ones to help.
well at least Zekain Kade claims to be gods gift to Dust |
Rayan Storm
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
358
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Posted - 2012.09.17 16:51:00 -
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This dude Tony here, he is hardcore.
If ever comes a time when i need someone most, when i am under fire and about to be blow to bits, when i am out of freaking ammo! , then i know who will come for me. TONY!
Actually, he would probably be the one to shoot me in the head.
That given, Tony, will you.....be on a team with me? Scratch that. Can i kill you once and brag about it forever? |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.09.17 16:54:00 -
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Rayan Storm wrote:This dude Tony here, he is hardcore.
If ever comes a time when i need someone most, when i am under fire and about to be blow to bits, when i am out of freaking ammo! , then i know who will come for me. TONY!
Actually, he would probably be the one to shoot me in the head.
That given, Tony, will you.....be on a team with me? Scratch that. Can i kill you once and brag about it forever?
LOL aint that the truth yes hes killed me a million times but hey I'll get him one day |
howard sanchez
Conspiratus Immortalis
448
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Posted - 2012.09.17 16:59:00 -
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Craig Greenway wrote:Tony Calif wrote:I have given up rushing to counter hack. People "cover you" instead of helping. I just shoot my friends who are "covering" me. Then hack it once it goes red and try to fight off the invaders. I look forward to friendly fire. Tony - you are the only player I fear, the only player I want on my team, the only player I recognise so far Keep up the good work, play the game as it was intended, you will be legend...
Omg Craig, do NOT encourage him. His friggin ego is a major cause of lag in dust |
Rayan Storm
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
358
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Posted - 2012.09.17 17:13:00 -
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howard sanchez wrote:Craig Greenway wrote:Tony Calif wrote:I have given up rushing to counter hack. People "cover you" instead of helping. I just shoot my friends who are "covering" me. Then hack it once it goes red and try to fight off the invaders. I look forward to friendly fire. Tony - you are the only player I fear, the only player I want on my team, the only player I recognise so far Keep up the good work, play the game as it was intended, you will be legend... Omg Craig, do NOT encourage him. His friggin ego is a major cause of lag in dust
LOL. So true. One day, we should ALL team up on Tony. Just go beserk on him. I mean, a dozen tanks, 9 dropships, swarm launchers galore! Rail guns, snipers, orbital bombardment! THE WHOLE SPIEL!
WE ARE COMING FOR YOU TONY!
And you know what the worst part is? He would still kill us all. Several times. Each. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.17 17:13:00 -
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Rayan, I'll happily group up, I'll also block those bullets with my shields! Huzzah! I'll probably be going for the objective, not you however, so use me as a distraction and split :P
Jax. 2500SP a game is woeful, I don't mean that harshly, but some skills cost 2 million or more. I shall do my very utmost to get you some points.
Fenrir Use an assault mass driver. Kills me everytime. Because I can't use my 1337 aim to shoot you. They are so annoying lol.
Edit; Howard, you make me lol |
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