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kas croixe
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.09.09 04:21:00 -
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almost without fail, I seem to be the only person playing logistics(with the nano injectors, also pack a repair tool/ammo packs, it changes between my custom and the starter pack one) on any team I get placed on. I thought medics were a good thing? I get relatively the same armament as any other soldier(assault rifle personally, may switch it up to a shotgun since I seems to find lots of close range engagements) decent shielding, decent health, and that whole "making you not die" thing to boot, so why don't more people play logistics? |
Daedra Lord9
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
136
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Posted - 2012.09.09 04:26:00 -
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Honestly, I don't know why more people don't play logistics. I play heavy most of the time, since they have good armor and are the only ones that can use HMG's (I'm being optimistic towards the next patch), and I'm trying to get a forge gun (Those SP are hard to get when you get tank spammed). I just wish I didn't have to constantly buy HMG's because nobody ever revives. |
howard sanchez
Conspiratus Immortalis
448
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Posted - 2012.09.09 04:29:00 -
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No, you are not the only one. There is a whole community of dedicated logistics players on dust. We are just too busy pickin up hard charging assaulteers and patching up bullet holes to chat very loud.
Grab an injector and cover my flank |
kas croixe
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.09.09 04:33:00 -
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Daedra Lord9 wrote:Honestly, I don't know why more people don't play logistics. I play heavy most of the time, since they have good armor and are the only ones that can use HMG's (I'm being optimistic towards the next patch), and I'm trying to get a forge gun (Those SP are hard to get when you get tank spammed). I just wish I didn't have to constantly buy HMG's because nobody ever revives.
heh, seems like you and I would be best friends. I'm that one idiot who runs straight out, nanite injector in hand into the center of an active firefight(mostly because people never wait, it always pisses me off so much when someone dies like 15 feet from me and sits there for about 5 seconds, the moment I reach them, they decide they don't want to be rezzed and not cost the team a ticket{likely two, because nanite injectors can't be shot at that guy who i was ducking and juking to avoid getting shot by so I could revive their ass}) |
Daedra Lord9
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
136
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Posted - 2012.09.09 04:36:00 -
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Yeah, any kind of revival would be a godsend for my ISK. Replacing suits, weapons, modules, etc nonstop is obscenely expensive. Not to mention I have no problem giving the medics their share of points, considering they're (from the looks of things, but apparently not) a dying breed. |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2012.09.09 04:37:00 -
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Playing logi in random matches with no one on comms is a thankless and absurd venture. It is worse than playing whack a mole at the county fair after eating too many funnel cakes. Worse than...
Well, you get the picture. I've tried out a logi character but with radio silence and everyone running around mashing the O button every time they get shot, most players running the cheapest gear possible, and dying the cheapest possible deaths to avoid the pain of losing a flashy dropsuit, and what have you, did not feel it was really worth it. Using the rep tool and nanohive combo is ok, but sometimes players would rather run away from a rep and get shot than stand still for the few seconds it takes to fix some armor. Maybe it frightens them.
They are great in organized squads though. |
Tectonious Falcon
23
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Posted - 2012.09.09 04:39:00 -
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I only play as logistics. I mainly use an smg because my accuracy is pretty rubbish anyway, nanite injector and a repair tool that is better at healing dropsuits better than vehicles and installations |
Brass Stalker
Elite Mercenaries
17
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Posted - 2012.09.09 04:42:00 -
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1guy who levels assult rifle fully > 1 guy with half assult skill + logitec backing him
just like one guy who levels tank > two 1/2 tanks
that's just how this game works. as is. it helps to work as a team but by no means necassary if you meta game like all the guys goping 25/1
logitech is as inferior as the teamwork element thats why nobody uses logitech.
/discussion |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.09.09 04:45:00 -
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I wish being a medic was as common place in Dust as it was in MAG. I swear, 75% of people in MAG had the medic symbol next to their name (all though very few people medic). |
Lawst One
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2012.09.09 05:23:00 -
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I just recent,y started playing and progressing in logistics. The problem im having is that there isnt much communication between teamate if any. Olayers are vastly spreadout an if someone dies u dont necessairly know how far they are. And alot of people just choose to respawn. That being said when i get hooked up with a group and this game gets settled then everything will be fine.
Note to players in the game....unless you have all bpo's wait for medic. Especially if your with a group. The most annoying thing is when we finally get near you and you decide ti respawn. |
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BlacMage
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
59
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Posted - 2012.09.09 05:55:00 -
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kas croixe wrote:almost without fail, I seem to be the only person playing logistics(with the nano injectors, also pack a repair tool/ammo packs, it changes between my custom and the starter pack one) on any team I get placed on. I thought medics were a good thing? I get relatively the same armament as any other soldier(assault rifle personally, may switch it up to a shotgun since I seems to find lots of close range engagements) decent shielding, decent health, and that whole "making you not die" thing to boot, so why don't more people play logistics?
I play exclusivly as logi these days, but had to divide my suits into three builds just for the militia gear due to the market price increase... Starting this week I have been able to use more level one gear, but like dropships or tanks, logi is kind of expensive to jump into for new players. Give it time ... |
Shiro Mokuzan
220
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Posted - 2012.09.09 06:43:00 -
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Brass Stalker wrote:1guy who levels assult rifle fully > 1 guy with half assult skill + logitec backing him
just like one guy who levels tank > two 1/2 tanks
that's just how this game works. as is. it helps to work as a team but by no means necassary if you meta game like all the guys goping 25/1
logitech is as inferior as the teamwork element thats why nobody uses logitech.
/discussion
wat |
G Torq
ALTA B2O
88
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Posted - 2012.09.09 06:49:00 -
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My observations, 2 days in:
1) Playing as a medic is interesting, but I never managed to revive anyone - saw perhaps 1 or 2 that "stayed dead" for more than 5 seconds, making it improbable that I'd ever resurrect anyone
2) Playing as assault or heavy, I've only ever once gotten a resurrect; Have tried laying very still, push the [] button, and had players run around me with no effect. Even with "triage unit in vicinity" (or something), I lay still, outside of the fight, and nothing...
Btw, to whomever did resurrect me once: Big thanks! It was most welcome.
I had some more rockets to blast at an annoying vehicle, but unfortunately woke up on top of a grenade - died instantly.
What i really don't get is: If part of the to-win criteria is the number of clones left (0 => lost), then why aren't more people waiting for the medics? or did I miss something about the game mechanics? |
Anton Wilson2
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.09.09 08:58:00 -
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I am a dedicated logi, I am level 4 logistic dropsuit, nanit injector, repair tool and medic nanohive. I have an assault rifle lvl 4 and average 10 kills 2 deaths per match. It is a thankless task, but the bonus sp you get from team heal, team resupply, armour repair and revive makes up for it,
Remember you are logi's, you don't run forward into the battle, tactically place a nanohive, kill anything that moves, and if they let you, revive whoever you can.
Nanite injector still needs work. Find it hard to find a target when you get close to them. Possibly require a red outline when you get close to the person to show their position.
CCP should make an accept button for logi's or nanite carriers, when soldier go's down and calls for help pressing square, they could do a reply button to acknowledge they need help and to say they are on there way. This will stop medics running half way accross a map to someone who is going to press circle when you get there, and it will let the soldier know we are on our way.
CCP any chance?
Thoughts all. |
Kyy Seiska
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
188
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Posted - 2012.09.09 09:06:00 -
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I have my "skinweave logistic fit" which I use to do the things other logistics fail to do. By this I mean dropping those drop-uplinks in ambush matches, somewhere safe providing my team with fairly safe spawn point.
You can often save more lives trough this than you can by using your injectors. Dis-including the feeders of course. |
Furrow33
21
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Posted - 2012.09.09 09:07:00 -
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I enjoy playing logi too. I drop things all over the place for people. Problem i see now is i dont get a whole lot of sp but alot of isk. I repair people too but they just take off like they dont care. |
Anton Wilson2
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.09.09 09:22:00 -
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I was logi last night and I averaged at 70K sp a match and that was with 8 kills 2 deaths. The rest was from reviving, repairing and resupplying, haven't specced the drop uplink yet but will have to give it a try. How much sp do you get for a soldier using your drop uplink.
I might have to wait until I have saved up 2.4 million to upgrade to level 5 suit. It gives you 4 equipment slots instead of 3. |
Cinder Integ
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
23
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Posted - 2012.09.09 09:32:00 -
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I IS R... PROTO-LOGI!... as of 30min ago :) |
Yuuki Aoyama
0
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Posted - 2012.09.09 10:05:00 -
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I never see that many medics around either, sometimes feels like I'm the only one.
I've been using a custom set-up with the Assault Dropsuit fitted with an injector, just because the Logi Dropsuit to me feels quite clunky. The disadvantage for me using my Dropsuit is I don't have the luxury of having a second equipment slot for a nanohive, or the armour repair module so I have to conserve ammo and choose fights wisely. But I feel more at ease with the Assault Dropsuit knowing I have a sidearm to switch to during a duel or a heavy CQC situation. That being said, I can't seem to hit *kittens* with the Pistols and I either die or run out of ammo for the assault rifle before having to use it most times. I'm really at an impasse on giving up my sidearm for the Logi Dropsuit. (T^T)
A forth speciality I feel is needed to branch out for the Logi, why waste some skillpoints on the Assault Dropsuit picking Enforcer if all you want to use is the Logi I say. :S |
Beast Beastlington
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
237
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Posted - 2012.09.09 10:10:00 -
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I always play as a Logi...however, reviving is so damn painful in this game. Takes an age to switch to the nanite injector and then the revive process is too slow. Most of the time it's not worth the risk. |
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Jak Teston
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
99
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Posted - 2012.09.09 12:16:00 -
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I spend perhaps only 15% of my playtime in a logistics suit, but I spawn in every game as a logi at least once.
To me the logistics suit is extremely specialized. I use it almost exclusively to quickly lay down a strategic drop uplink and place two nanohives nearby. After that I go on a AR-rampage until I respawn in an assault suit with a nanite injector for the opportunistic revive.
Hint: All assault suits need to carry either a nanite injector or a nanohive. If you don't, change that! |
Kovinis Sparagas
Final Fortress
Happy Tree Fiends
58
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Posted - 2012.09.09 12:34:00 -
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From now on I play as logistic because: I can make teammates survive more, and if they survive more - I survive more, because I'm not alone |
Evane Sa'edi
Celtic Anarchy
62
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Posted - 2012.09.09 12:58:00 -
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The problem with the lack of Medics is the low level suits dont have many equipment slots - 2 on the tier0 suits - so if you run a support role (nanohives & droplinks) there is no room for injectors until the suits with 3 or 4 slots. (the high advance or proto suits). most people (me included) usually die a great distance from assistance and re-spawn with out calling for help. It would be nice to get a med sensor visual in the HUD about bleed out time and the distance of nearest friendly nano injector (SOONtm) |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.09 13:52:00 -
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Someone should start a Sisters of Eve corp so us war crazed Corps only gota go to one place to hire a good medic. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.09.09 13:59:00 -
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N o mate but until they give logi the love with the points they deserve you wont see may better off 2 assaults they can equipe most of what logi can an not be so squishy |
Tarralis
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
18
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Posted - 2012.09.09 14:02:00 -
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I only just started, but I started out with Logistics. I could definitely use a few pointers on the loadouts. Of course I still don't know enough about how to read the field as I'm playing to know who's playing what role. I'm finding the map is quite large, and finding your other 9 teammates can be a challenge, because I'm thinking logistics would be one of those classes that should be following assault members into battle. |
Shiro Mokuzan
220
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Posted - 2012.09.09 15:27:00 -
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Logistcs are not necessarily medics/triage. The only actual role bonus a logistics suit gets is a 10% bonus to hacking speed. Unless and until they get other bonuses to some other role, they're just suits with lots of equipment slots that are better than average at hacking. They should focus on supporting their team, yes, but there are lots of things one can bring to help the team.
On the other side of that is the fact that anyone can and should carry injectors. Not every soldier needs a nanohive. I think it'd be ideal for general combatants to carry about half nanohives and half injectors. |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
172
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:01:00 -
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I once tried the basic level Logistics suit. What I found out is that it REALLY doesn't suit my fighting style but however I do like to revive others and support the team other than just running and gunning. So what I did is made a new Fitting, which I named Tiger Trooper, that is designed to be able to actually fight with the enemy on the ground while reviving others. He has a Burst Rifle, pistol, basic level nades, and a Injector. It works quite well if you play smart but just like the logistics suit it can't last long if the center of heavy fire due to it not being focused in defense or evasion.
With this Tiger Trooper fitting, I do not run into open fire to heal others. It's silly. You're risking yourself for someone in a high-risk situation which can cost your team. Best thing to do if in heavy fire, sweep the area as quickly as possible and then go in. If they're still alive you revive. You can't go wrong with this.
Now. Recently I've made a new Logistics suit. I call it Battle Support because that's exactly what it does. It resupplies ammo and it revives. It can also survive, albeit with more of a weakness than my Tiger Trooper, on the battlefield with certain equips. He only has a shotgun but this is perfect for when in CQBs which is the perfect moment for revivng because you don't have to worry about distant shots. Another good thing is that if someone is being stealthy and pops up to make an attempt at your clones life, you can just whip out the shotgun and take them down. |
dent 308
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
967
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:09:00 -
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Random matches I tend to field my cheaper logi fits and do what I can. Squad matches where I have a crew on comms I break out the good stuff and use it heavily. |
Brass Stalker
Elite Mercenaries
17
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:36:00 -
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im basically saying that logisuits all ready put themselves at a disadvantage in any combat situation for the chance that their teammates are as/more powerfull than the enemy. {edit} add to that the sp diverted. just spec an assult to logi if you must.
wat? |
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Average Joe81
57
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:47:00 -
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i use logi |
Jexct Doc
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:53:00 -
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I really like Logistics. I've played it quite a bit.
For anyone thinking about giving it a try, one good thing to remember is that your weapon is still a greater priority than your equipment. Never go full support. I made that mistake my first few days playing. It was a bad time. |
Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards
42
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Posted - 2012.09.09 17:17:00 -
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Finally people who understand me!!!! It seems like people always run out in the middle of a cross fire then expect to be healed but if there are no enemy around they cant wait for a second to be revived. Thats mainly the reason I can't revive people they are often in the worst place to be or they don't wait long enough to be revive.
WE LOGIS MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I remember a match I had where I was the only logi on my team, but the other team had about two or three. No matter how many of them we kill ,no matter how many of my teammates I saved (wasn't a lot because kept re-spawning instead of letting me revive) it seemed like the other team couldn't stop massacring us. And every time they got close you could hear the beeping of nanite Injectors. The more we killed the more beeping we heard. I couldn't revive nearly as fast as the other logis.
We lost that match by 40 or 60 clones. And I think it was purely because of the logis.
we should form a logi corp or at least have each other in our contacts or something so we can find each other. |
Galthur
CrimeWave Syndicate
22
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Posted - 2012.09.09 17:26:00 -
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The thing is like %60 of people will bleed out, %50 of that is mid animation from pressing O |
Prince Ombra
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2012.09.09 19:46:00 -
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I don't use logi because I'm used to the speed of the scouts so my medic is a shotgun scout with nanite injectors and a repair tool. Really handy in the Biomass and Communications map and also when under siege around a supply depot. Plus I can make it really fast to someone's side so they're less likely to suicide out of impatience. |
Antonius Dacinci
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2012.09.09 20:14:00 -
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I don't technically play logistics but I usually play a assault with a medstick and then usually a tank but at least when I don't feel like being a tank i can revive people XD and i go out of my way to do so because I also have a shotgun and get a few kills when I do so. |
Jotun Hiem
24
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Posted - 2012.09.09 20:22:00 -
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I've been playing pretty much exclusively as Logistics since I joined two days ago. It was the only loadout where I felt like I was really helping.
The only complaint I have is how cumbersome it feels when I switch to the injector. |
Typo Name
78
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Posted - 2012.09.09 21:00:00 -
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I see other logistics guys pretty often. Earlier today, I was actually running around with another one- we each revived eachother at least once until a tank blew us up. |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
673
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Posted - 2012.09.09 21:03:00 -
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kas croixe wrote:almost without fail, I seem to be the only person playing logistics(with the nano injectors, also pack a repair tool/ammo packs, it changes between my custom and the starter pack one) on any team I get placed on. I thought medics were a good thing? I get relatively the same armament as any other soldier(assault rifle personally, may switch it up to a shotgun since I seems to find lots of close range engagements) decent shielding, decent health, and that whole "making you not die" thing to boot, so why don't more people play logistics?
No bro you're not the only one, I play logi too. I have several different logi suits with various loadouts. |
Jarl Stormcloak
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.09.09 21:39:00 -
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Right now it's clunky to switch to the injector in combat and hard to spot people down. CCP WHY U NO ADD GIANT "+" SYMBOL!?
Also when you're down you can't see if there's a medic around on the map. |
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RedBleach
50
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Posted - 2012.09.09 21:51:00 -
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LogiBro forever!
Battle Support is critical. One of the best things a Logi/Med can do is level up your nanite injectors to fully rez your team mates and get your NanoHives to rep armour... but only if your in a team with comms - don't use it for randoms.
On top of that the proto has 4 high and 4 low. You are the only suit that could max out damage with modules and put biotics on the lows to sprint like the devil. Or shield up or armor up and become the walking tank repper... so many possibilities.
But, very skill heavy and module centric |
Arbyter90
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.09.09 21:53:00 -
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call me dumb but I have only been playing a day and I can't for the life of me figure out revives. I tried everything I could think of, I think it is because people bleed out, but it is hard to tell, a marker on the hud would be nice to show who needs help, and who already bled out. |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
673
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Posted - 2012.09.09 22:23:00 -
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Arbyter90 wrote:call me dumb but I have only been playing a day and I can't for the life of me figure out revives. I tried everything I could think of, I think it is because people bleed out, but it is hard to tell, a marker on the hud would be nice to show who needs help, and who already bled out.
There IS a marker on the hud, its the needle icon.
any downed mercs who don't have that icon either pressed respawn or they are the enemy |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
673
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Posted - 2012.09.09 22:33:00 -
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Jarl Stormcloak wrote:Right now it's clunky to switch to the injector in combat and hard to spot people down. CCP WHY U NO ADD GIANT "+" SYMBOL!?
Also when you're down you can't see if there's a medic around on the map.
When you're down there is a message at the top of the screen that informs you if there's someone with an injector nearby. If there's no message then there's no one near who can revive you. |
PHAROAH AMEN RA
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2012.09.09 22:33:00 -
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RedBleach wrote:LogiBro forever! Battle Support is critical. One of the best things a Logi/Med can do is level up your nanite injectors to fully rez your team mates and get your NanoHives to rep armour... but only if your in a team with comms - don't use it for randoms. On top of that the proto has 4 high and 4 low. You are the only suit that could max out damage with modules and put biotics on the lows to sprint like the devil. Or shield up or armor up and become the walking tank repper... so many possibilities. But, very skill heavy and module centric
Nice! so the future of logi looks promising |
skank hoe
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
23
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Posted - 2012.09.09 23:27:00 -
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All I play is logi. Ive had to switch to the default logi so I could save up some ISK because it's expensive to play the role..
Ive run clear across the map to try and revive a guy only to have them respawn right when I get there.
Ive noticed that since I'm one of the few that uses a mic, when I switch to team chat and yell at them that I can't revive them if they respawn they actually wait a bit longer |
Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
323
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Posted - 2012.09.10 00:15:00 -
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It seems that there are far less Logistics than there were a few weekends ago,and that's even before the new influx of players. |
Logi Bro
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
836
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Posted - 2012.09.10 00:16:00 -
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Is this thread serious?
Every game I play I find a disturbingly high number of Logi's, to the point where there is more than one per every other dropsuit on the field, which is ridiculous, considering it makes me have to compete with other Logi's to resupply, revive, or repair other people. |
Arbyter90
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.09.10 05:35:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:Arbyter90 wrote:call me dumb but I have only been playing a day and I can't for the life of me figure out revives. I tried everything I could think of, I think it is because people bleed out, but it is hard to tell, a marker on the hud would be nice to show who needs help, and who already bled out. There IS a marker on the hud, its the needle icon. any downed mercs who don't have that icon either pressed respawn or they are the enemy
see I have never seen that marker before... figures all the games I enter everyone bleeds out the second they die.... |
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