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Sees-Too-Much
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Posted - 2012.09.08 01:27:00 -
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Me leaving the pilot seat in my dropship is not permission to hop in and try your hand at flying! You crashed my expensive ass-ed dropship, you incompetent prick! |
Elijah Revan
88
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Posted - 2012.09.08 01:28:00 -
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Sees-Too-Much wrote:Me leaving the pilot seat in my dropship is not permission to hop in and try your hand at flying! You crashed my expensive ass-ed dropship, you incompetent prick!
Agreed. They need to make Vehicle locks, so that no one can get into the driver seat of your vehicle unless you change the settings to let them.. I.E they ask you if you if they can get into the driver seat, and you click " accept " |
KingBlade82
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
56
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Posted - 2012.09.08 01:32:00 -
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-directs u to the nearest eve player to explain all the sick twisted ways they play their game- i really see them leaving it as is even battlefield doesnt have tank locks, helicopter/jet locks if they change it ok cause i dont steal stuff
EDIT: also when we have a real game release i can see a clan leader ordering a few tanks for others to own the battlefield with or maybe a commander but we havent heard much about that role |
Ghost Mason
Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS.
38
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Posted - 2012.09.08 01:38:00 -
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that happened to a friend! He worked so hard to get his dropship and we all squad up to fly with him! we were all excited! So he spawned his dropship and landed on his heas KILLING HIM hahahahaha was halarious then someone hop into the driver seat and went kamikase into a biulding! Hahaha i just watch that expensive dropship crumbling to the ground! Hahahahaha good times! |
Lazarus Solo
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
66
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Posted - 2012.09.08 01:40:00 -
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KingBlade82 wrote:-directs u to the nearest eve player to explain all the sick twisted ways they play their game- i really see them leaving it as is even battlefield doesnt have tank locks, helicopter/jet locks if they change it ok cause i dont steal stuff
EDIT: also when we have a real game release i can see a clan leader ordering a few tanks for others to own the battlefield with or maybe a commander but we havent heard much about that role
DICE doesn't have a system where you pay for your vehicles. Last time someone got into my drop ship they flipped it over. They beat me to it because it was deployed 25m down the road from where I called it. Luckily, there was only a couple minutes left on the timer and nobody destroyed it.
There needs to be some sort of lock though, I shouldn't be afraid to repair my drop ship or call an ob, with fear of losing my investment. |
Mikel Dracionas
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
14
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Posted - 2012.09.08 01:49:00 -
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If your afraid of that then don't use them or park them away from everyone or talk to people on your team when I'm using my 100 lav and someone jumps in the driver seat if I just stay quite they drive it where ever if I tell them what I am doing thet normally leave it alone |
FatalFlaw V1
ISK Faucet Industries
76
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Posted - 2012.09.08 01:56:00 -
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I have not even bothered to call in orbital strikes quite a few times because I knew my tank would drive off the second I got out of it.
They should just let you call them in from inside your vehicle.
I do agree with the vehicle locks, I brought it up a couple times a few months ago. People had similarly stupid responses against it then too, most likely because they don't use vehicles. |
Bre Nite
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.09.08 02:02:00 -
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It's because people are extremely rude anymore and don't think of the cost to the player that called the drop ship. Instead they mistake the game for Halo and believe it's a free for all when it comes to vehicles. |
Sandromin Hes
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
204
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Posted - 2012.09.08 02:15:00 -
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Firstly, although a very good idea, you also have to remember the nature of the background of the game. In EvE, you can pretty much do the same thing, and their ships cost thousands of times more than a tank. So, you have to be aware of that.
However, I do think there should be some way to block inept idiots from stealing your items. I believe that something that operates on a timed basis (only for high and possibly low-sec) would work. In null-sec however, I believe that there should be no locks, thereby making it more like null-sec should be. Maybe a lock on high-sec, a timer on low-sec, and nothing on null-sec would work.
^Post this idea in the feedback/requests forum if you truly like it. But those are my two cents worth, overall. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.09.08 02:17:00 -
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Yup, I'd love to jump out to place a drop uplink and a nanohive for our snipers, or to repair the ship if need be....no way in HELL though, thanks to free vehicles for all.
CCP, give us a freaking lock >_< |
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Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.09.08 02:26:00 -
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Sees-Too-Much wrote:Me leaving the pilot seat in my dropship is not permission to hop in and try your hand at flying! You crashed my expensive ass-ed dropship, you incompetent prick!
Oh I'm sorry.. Have you never heard the term -- "GTA Mutha' F(_)cka!" -- because, seriously it's fun to jack a persons ride.
I kidd, I kidd.. Seriously though this is something I have to agree too. You just do not take another pilot/operators ride. I remember back in Warhawk having some lame arse scrubs taking my hawk, and taking it for a nice joy ride. UGH! Time to team kill a b!tch. You just do not steal/take another's ride. Especially when it's decked out, or fully loaded. Do not be that ******. You will get killed. |
KingBlade82
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
56
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Posted - 2012.09.08 02:31:00 -
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Lazarus Solo wrote:KingBlade82 wrote:-directs u to the nearest eve player to explain all the sick twisted ways they play their game- i really see them leaving it as is even battlefield doesnt have tank locks, helicopter/jet locks if they change it ok cause i dont steal stuff
EDIT: also when we have a real game release i can see a clan leader ordering a few tanks for others to own the battlefield with or maybe a commander but we havent heard much about that role DICE doesn't have a system where you pay for your vehicles. Last time someone got into my drop ship they flipped it over. They beat me to it because it was deployed 25m down the road from where I called it. Luckily, there was only a couple minutes left on the timer and nobody destroyed it. There needs to be some sort of lock though, I shouldn't be afraid to repair my drop ship or call an ob, with fear of losing my investment.
ik thats why i said directs to eve players but if u get out someone will take it in battlefield ik i take tanks if someone gets out but i let him get in (wait in place 5 or so seconds) passanger and not just drive off lol |
JANOS BORNEMISSZA
0
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Posted - 2012.09.08 02:36:00 -
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Sandromin Hes wrote:Firstly, although a very good idea, you also have to remember the nature of the background of the game. In EvE, you can pretty much do the same thing, and their ships cost thousands of times more than a tank. So, you have to be aware of that. Not the same though. You don't have to worry about losing the ship you are flying to someone hopping in and going for a joyride. They don't have a protection because there's no practical need for one. DUST has a practical need to have vehicles lock, at least from your own teamates... I think if an enemy manages to commandeer it, they should get to keep it. But it's silly to have no protection from a griefer on your own team nab a vehicle in an opportune moment. What, nobody in EVE has heard of car keys? :p
Seriously, I don't think it hurts "lore" to have some sort of a vehicle lock (at least temporary) while still having some ways to lose your ship, and it's desperately needed in DUST. |
Song Soulfire
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
44
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Posted - 2012.09.08 02:42:00 -
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its not something i have or would do,
but
the more you make out of it, the more it'll happen.
Some people will do it with out really thinking about the person they are doing it to. Some people will do it hoping to grief the person who payed for it.
the later are the ones who will do it more, the more they see tears. |
Jin Robot
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2012.09.08 02:52:00 -
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Life in the EVE universe is harsh, betrayal is commonplace. I would try to get used to it, posting to much about what you hate people doing is to griefers as blood is to sharks. |
JANOS BORNEMISSZA
0
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Posted - 2012.09.08 02:57:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Life in the EVE universe is harsh, betrayal is commonplace. I would try to get used to it, posting to much about what you hate people doing is to griefers as blood is to sharks. It's harsh, but it isn't backward. Even Eve has space stations and certain basic protections to keep the game playable. The game will be hurt, as an FPS, by having no vehicle locks or some way to protect your investment. It is by no means breaking with Eve's legendary harshness to have a damn key for your car. Sci-fi tech, and you can't slap a user lock on a huge investment? |
Jin Robot
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2012.09.08 03:03:00 -
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JANOS BORNEMISSZA wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Life in the EVE universe is harsh, betrayal is commonplace. I would try to get used to it, posting to much about what you hate people doing is to griefers as blood is to sharks. It's harsh, but it isn't backward. Even Eve has space stations and certain basic protections to keep the game playable. The game will be hurt, as an FPS, by having no vehicle locks or some way to protect your investment. It is by no means breaking with Eve's legendary harshness to have a damn key for your car. Sci-fi tech, and you can't slap a user lock on a huge investment? Oh yes, that's far more realistic... Deep breath man. I am sorry this happens to you really, but I doubt they will change it. It is an investment, it is on an active battlefield though. Realistic? I am not the one asking for a key fob door alarm/locker for my tank. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.09.08 03:08:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:JANOS BORNEMISSZA wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Life in the EVE universe is harsh, betrayal is commonplace. I would try to get used to it, posting to much about what you hate people doing is to griefers as blood is to sharks. It's harsh, but it isn't backward. Even Eve has space stations and certain basic protections to keep the game playable. The game will be hurt, as an FPS, by having no vehicle locks or some way to protect your investment. It is by no means breaking with Eve's legendary harshness to have a damn key for your car. Sci-fi tech, and you can't slap a user lock on a huge investment? Oh yes, that's far more realistic... Deep breath man. I am sorry this happens to you really, but I doubt they will change it. It is an investment, it is on an active battlefield though. Realistic? I am not the one asking for a key fob door alarm/locker for my tank.
You're an idiot, hate to break it to you man.
This feature would only help gameplay. Betrayal is commonplace? It's not betrayal, it's idiocy. It's infant DUSTers going 'oooh shiny ride" not some insidious corp spy. If you want actual betrayal, coded locks are a MUST, because now those codes are valuable assets.
No, this isn't good gameplay, at all. Ask any vehicle driver if they enjoyed the last time they watched their 300,000-2 million ISK roll off into oblivion, see what they tell you |
JANOS BORNEMISSZA
0
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Posted - 2012.09.08 03:09:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote: Deep breath man. I am sorry this happens to you really, but I doubt they will change it. It is an investment, it is on an active battlefield though. Realistic? I am not the one asking for a key fob door alarm/locker for my tank.
Actually, it hasn't happened to me, thankfully. Doesn't take long to find out why it won't work though.
My tablet can see when it's me and unlock now... my million dollar investment years in the future can't manage that? |
Zoey Kiato
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2012.09.08 03:10:00 -
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I jsut want to apologize to anyone whos vehicle i may hav stolen im new to dust and didnt realize u pay for them as the player will never happen again |
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Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2012.09.08 03:15:00 -
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Some people are used to free toys in other games and others are just unrepentant pricks. It may be a small percentage of players, but it's an annoying fact of public play. CCP recognized this fact when it put a few seconds lock on vehicles at deployment, though it's not always sufficient.
A pilot seat lock for High-sec play is one solution, the other is to eventually abandon High-sec to a population of miscreants and clueless players. I admit that self segregation is more likely. |
JANOS BORNEMISSZA
0
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Posted - 2012.09.08 03:17:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Some people are used to free toys in other games and others are just unrepentant pricks. I think that's a big part, right there. |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
169
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Posted - 2012.09.08 03:19:00 -
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Sees-Too-Much wrote:Me leaving the pilot seat in my dropship is not permission to hop in and try your hand at flying! You crashed my expensive ass-ed dropship, you incompetent prick!
Had my expensive tank blown up once and 2-3 times near explosion... didn't know how to drive it or use repairers...
I want vehicle locks -_- |
xxBIG DIRTYxx
19
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Posted - 2012.09.08 03:32:00 -
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Rorek IronBlood wrote:Sees-Too-Much wrote:Me leaving the pilot seat in my dropship is not permission to hop in and try your hand at flying! You crashed my expensive ass-ed dropship, you incompetent prick! Oh I'm sorry.. Have you never heard the term -- " GTA Mutha' F(_)cka!" -- because, seriously it's fun to jack a persons ride. I kidd, I kidd.. Seriously though this is something I have to agree too. You just do not take another pilot/operators ride. I remember back in Warhawk having some lame arse scrubs taking my hawk, and taking it for a nice joy ride. UGH! Time to team kill a b!tch. You just do not steal/take another's ride. Especially when it's decked out, or fully loaded. Do not be that ******. You will get killed. Which reminds me... I once heard there will be friendly fire in Dust 514. Any clarity on this? I'm for it, and it would be an effective deterrant against this rude type of 'in your face' behaviour.- And I'm not kidd'n. |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2012.09.08 03:49:00 -
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We use locks for anything of value in areas open to the general public. The military doesn't for war vehicles because they control access in other ways, such as fences, locks on buildings, or shooting anyone who tries to take it without permission. We won't have the same issue in corp play, but the fact is not everyone is properly educated or well mannered. I strongly suspect similar problems will arrise if/when FF is enabled in public matches. Children will take great sport in shooting their own team mates for the sheer joy of spoiling someone else's experience.
I recall an objective match in CoD where a chortling child grabbed the bomb and instead of planting it, played keep away from the rest of his team. That was one of the events that motivated me to abandon it.
I can only hope that any corp I join will train the uneducated and weed out the antisocial. |
Lazarus Solo
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
66
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Posted - 2012.09.08 03:51:00 -
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KingBlade82 wrote:Lazarus Solo wrote:KingBlade82 wrote:-directs u to the nearest eve player to explain all the sick twisted ways they play their game- i really see them leaving it as is even battlefield doesnt have tank locks, helicopter/jet locks if they change it ok cause i dont steal stuff
EDIT: also when we have a real game release i can see a clan leader ordering a few tanks for others to own the battlefield with or maybe a commander but we havent heard much about that role DICE doesn't have a system where you pay for your vehicles. Last time someone got into my drop ship they flipped it over. They beat me to it because it was deployed 25m down the road from where I called it. Luckily, there was only a couple minutes left on the timer and nobody destroyed it. There needs to be some sort of lock though, I shouldn't be afraid to repair my drop ship or call an ob, with fear of losing my investment. ik thats why i said directs to eve players but if u get out someone will take it in battlefield ik i take tanks if someone gets out but i let him get in (wait in place 5 or so seconds) passanger and not just drive off lol
Well that makes you an ass to be honest. |
KingBlade82
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
56
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Posted - 2012.09.08 03:56:00 -
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Lazarus Solo wrote:KingBlade82 wrote:Lazarus Solo wrote:KingBlade82 wrote:-directs u to the nearest eve player to explain all the sick twisted ways they play their game- i really see them leaving it as is even battlefield doesnt have tank locks, helicopter/jet locks if they change it ok cause i dont steal stuff
EDIT: also when we have a real game release i can see a clan leader ordering a few tanks for others to own the battlefield with or maybe a commander but we havent heard much about that role DICE doesn't have a system where you pay for your vehicles. Last time someone got into my drop ship they flipped it over. They beat me to it because it was deployed 25m down the road from where I called it. Luckily, there was only a couple minutes left on the timer and nobody destroyed it. There needs to be some sort of lock though, I shouldn't be afraid to repair my drop ship or call an ob, with fear of losing my investment. ik thats why i said directs to eve players but if u get out someone will take it in battlefield ik i take tanks if someone gets out but i let him get in (wait in place 5 or so seconds) passanger and not just drive off lol Well that makes you an ass to be honest.
ummm no? we have a war going on im not sitting in an idle tank its idiotic or r u refering to me being an ass in a different way?
EDIT: in battlefield 99% of people dont get out of tanks unless we took heavy fire and they repair in which case i get out cause i think it will explode soon or i repair if i can most of the time |
Mister Hunt
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
230
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Posted - 2012.09.08 04:04:00 -
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Janos, actually, you CAN steal someone's ride in Eve. In PvP people will actually eject from T3 cruisers to avoid skill loss (they lose skill points if their ship gets destroyed with them in it). An opposing pilot can abandon his ride (usually a frigate or some other cheap ship) and board the T3 cruiser. I myself own 2 that still have their original owners' names attached to them.
As far as the argument "he took my multi-million isk ship!!!!"...welcome to Eve. Don't fly what you can't afford to lose. Even if it is to asshattery. |
Raynor Ragna
266
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Posted - 2012.09.08 04:05:00 -
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How about you don't get out of your expensive dropship. You'll be facing more dangers when this game goes live then simple thievary. |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.09.08 04:28:00 -
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xxBIG DIRTYxx wrote:Rorek IronBlood wrote:Sees-Too-Much wrote:Me leaving the pilot seat in my dropship is not permission to hop in and try your hand at flying! You crashed my expensive ass-ed dropship, you incompetent prick! Oh I'm sorry.. Have you never heard the term -- " GTA Mutha' F(_)cka!" -- because, seriously it's fun to jack a persons ride. I kidd, I kidd.. Seriously though this is something I have to agree too. You just do not take another pilot/operators ride. I remember back in Warhawk having some lame arse scrubs taking my hawk, and taking it for a nice joy ride. UGH! Time to team kill a b!tch. You just do not steal/take another's ride. Especially when it's decked out, or fully loaded. Do not be that ******. You will get killed. Which reminds me... I once heard there will be friendly fire in Dust 514. Any clarity on this? I'm for it, and it would be an effective deterrant against this rude type of 'in your face' behaviour.- And I'm not kidd'n.
Well the word is that eventually CCP will seperate different security (SEC) levels just as in EVE which will allow for different play styles. Garunteed rookie servers will have friendly fire [off], and everything above that will have it [on]. I guess we'll just have to wait and see though about how CCP does this all. |
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