People are using so many tanks because every last one of the whiners refuses to spec into AV. Remember last build when everyone and their mother trained forge guns? Then remember when this build started we weren't wiped for a day or two? Well I was a surya driver last build, fitted out with the strongest armor tank you could make. The day before the wipe at least 3 people on every team had advanced forge guns or better and at least one or two had advanced swarm launchers. You know what happened to my tanks in the new build? Pop, pop, pop...like they were militia tanks being shot at by a marauder like mine. That was when I decided to try logi LAVs instead of tanks this round, because I didn't want to blow my wallet on tanks that would be nearly useless. I didn't count on the average player being a coward that would rather lie down and die instead of fight back.

Use your skills points, use your comms and use your damned cover and you will have no problem at all taking out tanks. In the corp battles last weekend Tronhadar decimated all the tanks thrown against us, and our tanks were always outnumbered until we killed so many Amarr tanks that they stopped calling them in because it was getting too expensive. Most of the tanks were killed by swarm launchers and AV nades. Your k/d ratio will suck against tanks, just like it is supposed to. But you will win the match and make a ton of isk from killing the loot pinatas.

So...you think Tronhadar didn't whoop all the tanks it faced? Ask your STB buddies then. They were there.

challenge accepted:

i have a sagaris. it is massively OP.

even the gunlogi was OP.

i only ever lost a gunlogi to other tanks, and have yet to lose a sagaris.

I tell you what, these dadgum AV squads have gotten viscous lately. I've lost a few tanks in the last few days to em. All it took was a little time for them to skill up the AV weapons and now I find myself running at times from these rude, crude, lewd dudes with their proto swarms n forge guns.

I don't know anything about tank specs. This guy has a massive amount of shield, but I finally took out the shield, then it took one shot of my forge gun and he was dead. The other tank has a weak shield but a massive armor. The last one has both shield and armor that repairs hecka fast.

This is what I've been saying all along. Tanks seem OP at the beginning of a new build, then AV teams start emerging, ganging up, and it's bye bye tanks. A few weeks later, fielding a tank becomes nothing short of impossible for anyone but the best. as they won't survive the number of engagements needed to earn their cost.

If tanks are so OP why isnt EVERY SINGLE PERSON using them?

Tanks CAN be destroyed, but the risk and effort for the tank drivers doesn't seem to be in balance. Some other approches on the balancing of tanks I encountered are:

Make tanks operational for 2 people (like LAV) only. With a dedicated gunner and dedicated driver seat.

Force driver into 1st person sight.

Decrease tank speed.

Vehicles get clips and reload times, but retain infinite ammo.

RDV drops take longer and RDV fly slower the more mass the carried vehicle has.

Check the edit Sha.

Tanks CAN be destroyed, but the risk and effort for the tank drivers doesn't seem to be in balance.

They are not OP, there are no good AV guys to fight em, plus half you guys bitching don't have the common sense to tell that an AR isn't going to do any damage, plus infintry isn't suppose to be able to take out tanks easily, as an addition it takes a ton of isk to properly fit a good tank.

Before you complain about something you don't know much do some research.

Instant Battle is probably just putting you into matches with other new people who havent figured out how to AV yet. I always seem to get into matches with highly skilled AV players, likely because the squad I play with is superpro :D