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Buzzwords
Deadly Blue Dots
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.09.08 08:50:00 -
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Alhanna Ridgeway wrote:Buzz you ran like a ***** today. Im just saying, however I was in a tank myself. And I know that Bad Furry blew your tank up today. It might not have been your Sagaris, but you did lose a tank.
the tank that bad blew up today wasn't even mine, i killed some guy on your team as he was calling it in and stole it. i dunno what it was.
it had about 5k shield hp but no repper, no clue on the resists. it was either a sica or a gunlogi, cuz the sagaris has a unique paintjob.
edit: also, bad blew it up with another tank...
so even if it HAD been my tank, it's very little bearing on the actual point of this thread. a tank destroying a tank doesn't prove anything either way. cuz they're both tanks... it's like, instead of beating rock with paper, you beat it with a bigger rock? rock is probably pretty well balanced though guys. 
also, if this was that same game then what does run like a ***** mean? am i supposed to stare down your teams 3 HAVs? (woulda been 4 but i killed the guy and stole it...) so yah, if it is the game in question i spent a LOT of time running away. hitting and running with swarm launchers, and generally trying to not die.
remember, my position in this debate is that HAVs ARE overpowered. so i find no shame in running from a trio of them...  |
Shyeer Alvarin
Dead Six Initiative
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Posted - 2012.09.08 09:58:00 -
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I feel it would be a good idea to bring up the point that DUST is intended to be a team-oriented game and that one guy running around with a swarm launcher by himself looking for a vehicle to blow up is -more than likely- going to fail against anything other than an LAV.
Now- as an HAV pilot myself, I don't go looking for the little guys. I go looking for the idiots poking my teammates and going on a demolition derby with turret emplacements. (I should also point out that the Large Rail/Missile emplacements are -probably- there for the sole purpose of blowing up encroaching tanks.)
Be flexible on the field. Tab open your communications and check if anyone's said anything. Make sure voice chat is enabled so you can hear the guys with mics calling inbounds. Be a team player. 4-5 guys chucking standard AV grenades make life easier when you've got some yahoo in a tank giving you hell. See also: Forge Guns and Mass Drivers. Both are anti-material weapons. Ineffective if you're by yourself, but frickin' amazing when you've got a buddy (or three.) Hell. Pick up a couple of cheap Militia tanks and learn how they work. To kill it, you must learn how to drive it.
Tanks are OP. Guess what though. They're -tanks.- Heavy armor, big guns, etc etc. They're supposed to be, but they aren't unstoppable if you're smart and use a little coordination. Half of not dying in a tank is knowing how to drive the clunky thing. /endrant |
Beast Beastlington
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.09.08 10:28:00 -
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Shouldn't take anything more than 4 hits to destroy a tank in any game. After a couple of strong hits, I think tank manoeuvrability and weapon systems should lose some functionality.
The game should be infantry based with vehicles, not vehicle based with infantry IMO.
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Buzzwords
Deadly Blue Dots
RISE of LEGION
416
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Posted - 2012.09.09 21:36:00 -
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FINAL UPDATE
i FINALLY lost a sagaris today, and as such i consider the challenge "met"
final stats:
KDR: 4.5->5.77. 1.27 increase in a week. without fulltiming the tank. if i had to guess at my in tank KDR i'd put it near 20
Wallet: 2million -> 11 million. that includes replacing the lost sagaris. so at 9-1 for the free corp battle million, 8 million isk profit.
funny story, i already had another sagaris hull from salvage, so i only had to replace the modules. i've literally NEVER purchased a sagaris. i am being rewarded them by salvage faster than i'm losing them.
i lost my sagaris to a railgun fit HAV. i think he was buffer tanked.
pretty embarrassing on my part. i knew he had a railgun AND my booster was down, but i saw him tagged on the minimap and thought i would seize the initiative. instead i rounded the corner into the barrel of his railgun. it ended badly. stupid move on my part, but i suppose it still counts.
worst case scenario i ever had against infantry was to a man by the name of doctor octagon and what i think was a static squad of his. they were quite well organized, and even destroyed a sica or two that were "me-too"ing after they saw my sagaris. at one point i rounded a corner and 4-5 infantry popped out from behind a rock, barraging me with grenades, swarms, and i think 1 forge gun. i ran... but i survived. i then returned 25 seconds later and killed them all.. also when you consider my slow reaction time (i stopped to look at where that all came from) i SHOULD have died there to. but i didn't, because HAVs are ridiculous.
if i remember correctly doc and his crew also almost destroyed one of my gunlogis. like i had to get out and repair kit the fire away kind of close.. but still, i survived and continued my rampage only seconds later. so hats off to you sir. your task is impossible but you make a good show of it.
so my final assessment remains: i believe HAVs are VERY overpowered. anti-vehicle infantry are next to no threat against an intelligently fit HAV. now i know some of you may grasp at that last point. "but the HAV driver needs to know how to fit?!!?" to that i reply, so does the infantryman. do you think i got a 4.5 KDR because i'm good at videogames? the answer is no. i'm good, but i'm not THAT good. my stats in any other FPS is proof enough of that. (my best in any OTHER game is 2) i have solid fittings that do not rely on gimmicks. i also don't believe i am an excellent tank driver. in retrospect i'm probably BAD at it. and yet i met with even greater success after passing a simple dumb check in the fitting menu.
so yah... i'm being as objective as i can be. i clearly have no dog in this fight anymore as i HAVE a sagaris of my own. HAVs are overpowered. |
Nih Huun
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:49:00 -
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As an infantry kinda dude, i like killing tanks. AV grenades do quite well against most of them  |
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