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WhatszGudDawg
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.31 00:46:00 -
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My brothers and sisters of freedom and democracy, tomorrow our might will be tested! We all must fight in the corporation battles and bring glory to the Gallente Federation! Prepare yourselves in every way necessary, our enemy will be cruel and relentless The Caldari State contains some of the universe's fiercest warriors, and everyone must be ready! We must defend the justice and freedom we are all entitled to in this Universe! So purchase those skillbooks, perfect your aim, develop unmatched tactics, and brace yourself for the fight of your many lives! |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.08.31 00:50:00 -
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LOL silly Gallente think they can run a government.
Seriously though: we're fighting for our independence, you're fighting a war of conquest. So hear me my fellow countrymen, let's fight off these imperialistic Gallente and free ourselves of the chains they call 'freedom'. |
Icy Tiger
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Posted - 2012.08.31 00:51:00 -
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Let's go bro. Kick all your French kitten kittens. |
Luther Mandrix
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.08.31 00:53:00 -
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Ops he stepped in some Caldari |
D'Finn Rhedlyne
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
266
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Posted - 2012.08.31 00:55:00 -
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Ha... I imagine this to be something akin to what was said before the charge of the light brigade!
We don't need to rabble rouse! Prepare for defeat! |
EMPTY SL0T
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2012.08.31 01:05:00 -
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You don't frighten us, Caldari pig-dogs! Go and boil your bottom, sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called Caldari, you and all your silly Caldari k-nnnnniggets. Thpppppt! Thppt!Thppt!
I don't wanna talk to you Caldari no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper of bottoms! I fart in your general direction!
Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!
Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time!
M.T. |
843-Bob365421 EV
27
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Posted - 2012.08.31 01:08:00 -
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I might have some say in this as i am caldari and i say. Good luck for both teams may the better fighters win. :) |
D'Finn Rhedlyne
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
266
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Posted - 2012.08.31 01:13:00 -
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EMPTY SL0T wrote:You don't frighten us, Caldari pig-dogs! Go and boil your bottom, sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called Caldari, you and all your silly Caldari k-nnnnniggets. Thpppppt! Thppt!Thppt!
I don't wanna talk to you Caldari no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper of bottoms! I fart in your general direction!
Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!
Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time!
M.T.
+1 for a classic Python quote (I used part of it in the Nerf AV grenades thread)
Your still gonna die though! |
Whizawk
0
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Posted - 2012.08.31 01:18:00 -
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Only chose Caldari as the ships have that 'human' look to them.
Good luck for the Corp battles. |
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
781
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Posted - 2012.08.31 01:20:00 -
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get bent |
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lDocHollidayl
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
171
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Posted - 2012.08.31 01:20:00 -
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I am looking for a 4th member for my squad, I prefer a logi but any Gallente get yourself in LFSquad (channel) tomorrow and lets have some good fights. |
Terram Nenokal
BetaMax.
115
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Posted - 2012.08.31 01:26:00 -
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Last I fought the Caldari was in the first few months of the faction war. They were notorious for turning tail then, I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happens when their boots hit the ground!
No aid, No mercy, Death to the Calamari! |
843-Bob365421 EV
27
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Posted - 2012.08.31 01:27:00 -
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Terram Nenokal wrote:Last I fought the Caldari was in the first few months of the faction war. They were notorious for turning tail then, I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happens when their boots hit the ground!
You'd be surpised. last time they didn't have ME and my squad. |
B-Man
The Southern Legion
1
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Posted - 2012.08.31 01:32:00 -
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lDocHollidayl wrote:I am looking for a 4th member for my squad, I prefer a logi but any Gallente get yourself in LFSquad (channel) tomorrow and lets have some good fights.
Hey mate, I run logi dudes. I'll be online in about 6 hours or so. If you're on, let's squad up and destroy some Caldari. |
Sin3 DeusNomine
Doomheim
142
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Posted - 2012.08.31 01:37:00 -
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All I have to say is Caldari State all the way. :) Gallente are missing there drones they do not stand a chance. :)
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Grezkev
The Red Guards
100
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Posted - 2012.08.31 01:41:00 -
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Hell Yea! |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.08.31 01:42:00 -
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Drones? Ha ha ha i laugh at the thought of those mosquitoes |
Syeleos
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2012.08.31 01:45:00 -
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Let's show the Caldari what the Gallente can do for the name of Freedom! |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.08.31 01:50:00 -
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Syeleos wrote:Let's show the Caldari what the Gallente can do for the name of Freedom!
Freedom? Where you force us back into a Federation we rightfully seceded from? Pah! More like imperialists than freedom fighters. |
aden slayer
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
407
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Posted - 2012.08.31 02:09:00 -
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Defend your home! Love your people! And fight or die well for glory awaits you in the fight for our freedom!
BROTHERS AND SISTERS! FOR THE FEDERATION! DEATH TO THE TYRANTS! |
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Obama DAT
Doomheim
389
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Posted - 2012.08.31 02:10:00 -
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Gallente up, Hoes down |
aden slayer
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
407
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Posted - 2012.08.31 02:14:00 -
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Sin3 DeusNomine wrote:All I have to say is Caldari State all the way. :) Gallente are missing there drones they do not stand a chance. :)
Drones?
Ha! The Caldari state is a coward! We fight for ourselves and would gladly die for our people! |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.08.31 02:20:00 -
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aden slayer wrote:Defend your home! Love your people! And fight or die well for glory awaits you in the fight for our freedom!
BROTHERS AND SISTERS! FOR THE FEDERATION! DEATH TO THE TYRANTS!
But we seceded from you! How are we tyrants? You're the ones forcing us back into a Federation we don't want to be a part of!
Does no one read the lore! |
aden slayer
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
407
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Posted - 2012.08.31 02:22:00 -
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Van Aewulf wrote:aden slayer wrote:Defend your home! Love your people! And fight or die well for glory awaits you in the fight for our freedom!
BROTHERS AND SISTERS! FOR THE FEDERATION! DEATH TO THE TYRANTS! But we seceded from you! How are we tyrants? You're the ones forcing us back into a Federation we don't want to be a part of! Does no one read the lore!
I was talking about the other tyrants. But we will still kill you for our cause. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.08.31 02:24:00 -
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What other tyrants? This thread is about Caldari - Gallente war.
Your cause is to force us back into a union we no longer wish to be a part of, and keep our home world from us. If anything, YOU the GALLENTE are the tyrants!! |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.08.31 02:26:00 -
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I will kill all caldari with pacifism, my sniper will put you down quickly and humanly while also avoiding all conflict. |
aden slayer
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
407
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Posted - 2012.08.31 02:32:00 -
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Van Aewulf wrote:What other tyrants? This thread is about Caldari - Gallente war.
Your cause is to force us back into a union we no longer wish to be a part of, and keep our home world from us. If anything, YOU the GALLENTE are the tyrants!!
Be quiet outlander!
You could have leave if you want but you choose to overthrow us why should we not fight back? |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.08.31 02:37:00 -
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aden slayer wrote:Van Aewulf wrote:What other tyrants? This thread is about Caldari - Gallente war.
Your cause is to force us back into a union we no longer wish to be a part of, and keep our home world from us. If anything, YOU the GALLENTE are the tyrants!! Be quiet outlander! You could have leave if you want but you choose to overthrow us why should we not fight back?
Overthrow you? We took our systems and seceded! We have no wish to overthrow you.
I quote:
The first Gallente-Caldari war broke out nearly two centuries ago when the Caldari State seceded from the Gallente Federation. The war lasted nearly 100 years and was more or less fought to a stalemate. Both sides only agreed to a peace treaty after the Gallente made first contact with the Amarr Empire and decided they were likely to be a bigger threat.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Gallente-Caldari_War
Another:
It all started when a Gallente exploration ship happened upon one of the hidden Caldari colonies. When the Federation Senate learned of this they demanded a full-scale investigation into the matter and that all hidden Caldari colonies should immediately been put under Federation authority. This was too much for the Caldari Corporations, which were already grumbling over increasing Federation interference into their affairs. For the Caldari it was a simple question of losing their autonomy forever by caving in or making a stand right then and there. They decided to make a stand.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_Early_Days_(Chronicle)
And lastly:
After a while the Caldari agenda became clear - they were willing to sign peace if the Federation would return Caldari Prime and acknowledge the newly formed Caldari state. But the Gallenteans couldnGÇÖt agree to these demands for two reasons: one, they were loath to admit a sovereign state into their midst; close to their own home planet and were unwilling to uproot the sizeable Gallente population on Caldari Prime, and second, the Gallenteans were not alone in the Federation and if they allowed the Caldari to leave the Intakis and Mannars, both of them starting to flex their economical and political muscles, might be tempted to follow, thus throwing the whole society into turmoil. The Gallenteans were forced to regard the Caldari as rebels and renegades and had to try to get them back into the Federation, with good or evil.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_War_Drones_On_(Chronicle)
No matter what your ideas may tell you; you and your people are fighting a war of oppression. We have more in common with the Intaki and Mannars than you Gallenteans and your oppressive governments and regimes. You're the evil faction, the Amarr of this war.
Edit: The links don't seem to copy properly but copy and paste them to your address bar and they'll take you to the official EVE lore on the subject matter. You're not freedom fighters, you're oppressors. |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2012.08.31 03:05:00 -
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We will kill all your imperialistic storm troopers! |
From Costa Rica
Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS.
66
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Posted - 2012.08.31 03:26:00 -
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My bullets are thirsty of blood, one bullet, one kill. Caldari wont stand a chance, but when is this going to happen, in 9 hours? |
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DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.08.31 03:31:00 -
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(Posted this in another thread, but it's relevant)
Clearly the Caldari are a selfish people, willing to throw the entire Gallente social structure into turmoil for the sake of their precious profits. My brothers and sisters, take no pity on these people, for they have chosen to stand against all that we hold dear. Their corporate claws may have dug deep into our people as they fled from the homes that we worked so hard to provide for them, but we will show them what it means to cross us, to put our great society at risk with their petty squables
My fellow Gallenteans!! Stand up for what is right!! Stand up for true freedom, not a dictatorship that twists information and lies for its own political gains!!! The Caldari state must not be allowed to continue to put our people at risk, they must be stopped at all costs!!
Rest easy tonight my friends, for war is soon at hand!! |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.08.31 03:31:00 -
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Van Aewulf wrote:aden slayer wrote:Defend your home! Love your people! And fight or die well for glory awaits you in the fight for our freedom!
BROTHERS AND SISTERS! FOR THE FEDERATION! DEATH TO THE TYRANTS! But we seceded from you! How are we tyrants? You're the ones forcing us back into a Federation we don't want to be a part of! Does no one read the lore!
You don't understand do you? How would you feel if someone who lives with you took a portion of your house (such as the kitchen) and said you couldn't go into their area.
Think US civil war |
Hollow Ling
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.08.31 03:55:00 -
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TO VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Ragna Soul
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
90
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Posted - 2012.08.31 03:56:00 -
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All the Caldari cares about is money their big corporations run Caldari. this is not freedom. The Gallente will fight to the death for real freedom and i all i can say is that CRUX SPECIAL TASKS GROUP and all the other corporations in the Gallente federation will bring Caldari down |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:00:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Van Aewulf wrote:aden slayer wrote:Defend your home! Love your people! And fight or die well for glory awaits you in the fight for our freedom!
BROTHERS AND SISTERS! FOR THE FEDERATION! DEATH TO THE TYRANTS! But we seceded from you! How are we tyrants? You're the ones forcing us back into a Federation we don't want to be a part of! Does no one read the lore! You don't understand do you? How would you feel if someone who lives with you took a portion of your house (such as the kitchen) and said you couldn't go into their area. Think US civil war
We colonized those systems ourselves. YOUR people decided to take them from us:
Shortly after jump gate technology was jointly discovered by the Gallente and the Caldari a little over five hundred years before the Federation formed, the Caldari corporations had started their own interstellar surveying and colonization, separate from that conducted by the Gallente. It was these colonies, kept as a secret from the Gallenteans, that became the source of friction between the Gallenteans and the Caldari, culminating in the latterGÇÖs defection from the Federation and an ensuing war between the two races.
It all started when a Gallente exploration ship happened upon one of the hidden Caldari colonies. When the Federation Senate learned of this they demanded a full-scale investigation into the matter and that all hidden Caldari colonies should immediately been put under Federation authority. This was too much for the Caldari Corporations, which were already grumbling over increasing Federation interference into their affairs. For the Caldari it was a simple question of losing their autonomy forever by caving in or making a stand right then and there. They decided to make a stand. |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:04:00 -
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Van Aewulf wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Van Aewulf wrote:aden slayer wrote:Defend your home! Love your people! And fight or die well for glory awaits you in the fight for our freedom!
BROTHERS AND SISTERS! FOR THE FEDERATION! DEATH TO THE TYRANTS! But we seceded from you! How are we tyrants? You're the ones forcing us back into a Federation we don't want to be a part of! Does no one read the lore! You don't understand do you? How would you feel if someone who lives with you took a portion of your house (such as the kitchen) and said you couldn't go into their area. Think US civil war We colonized those systems ourselves. YOUR people decided to take them from us: Shortly after jump gate technology was jointly discovered by the Gallente and the Caldari a little over five hundred years before the Federation formed, the Caldari corporations had started their own interstellar surveying and colonization, separate from that conducted by the Gallente. It was these colonies, kept as a secret from the Gallenteans, that became the source of friction between the Gallenteans and the Caldari, culminating in the latterGÇÖs defection from the Federation and an ensuing war between the two races. It all started when a Gallente exploration ship happened upon one of the hidden Caldari colonies. When the Federation Senate learned of this they demanded a full-scale investigation into the matter and that all hidden Caldari colonies should immediately been put under Federation authority. This was too much for the Caldari Corporations, which were already grumbling over increasing Federation interference into their affairs. For the Caldari it was a simple question of losing their autonomy forever by caving in or making a stand right then and there. They decided to make a stand. you colonized it using tech we both made independently and gave us nothing of your findings
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Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:06:00 -
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Ragna Soul wrote:All the Caldari cares about is money their big corporations run Caldari. this is not freedom. The Gallente will fight to the death for real freedom and i all i can say is that CRUX SPECIAL TASKS GROUP and all the other corporations in the Gallente federation will bring Caldari down
Your people seek to oppress us and force us back into a union we no longer wish to be a part. These colonies were our property and your Gallentean government sought to rip them from our hands. We said no and you effectively declared war on us by blockading our homeworld. Shame on you and all other Gallente. See this fight for what it is!
We fight for these reasons:
Founded on the tenets of patriotism and hard work that carried its ancestors through hardships on an inhospitable homeworld, the Caldari State is today a corporate dictatorship, led by rulers who are determined to see it return to the meritocratic ideals of old. Ruthless and efficient in the boardroom as well as on the battlefield, the Caldari are living emblems of strength, persistence, and dignity.
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Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:07:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Van Aewulf wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Van Aewulf wrote:aden slayer wrote:Defend your home! Love your people! And fight or die well for glory awaits you in the fight for our freedom!
BROTHERS AND SISTERS! FOR THE FEDERATION! DEATH TO THE TYRANTS! But we seceded from you! How are we tyrants? You're the ones forcing us back into a Federation we don't want to be a part of! Does no one read the lore! You don't understand do you? How would you feel if someone who lives with you took a portion of your house (such as the kitchen) and said you couldn't go into their area. Think US civil war We colonized those systems ourselves. YOUR people decided to take them from us: Shortly after jump gate technology was jointly discovered by the Gallente and the Caldari a little over five hundred years before the Federation formed, the Caldari corporations had started their own interstellar surveying and colonization, separate from that conducted by the Gallente. It was these colonies, kept as a secret from the Gallenteans, that became the source of friction between the Gallenteans and the Caldari, culminating in the latterGÇÖs defection from the Federation and an ensuing war between the two races. It all started when a Gallente exploration ship happened upon one of the hidden Caldari colonies. When the Federation Senate learned of this they demanded a full-scale investigation into the matter and that all hidden Caldari colonies should immediately been put under Federation authority. This was too much for the Caldari Corporations, which were already grumbling over increasing Federation interference into their affairs. For the Caldari it was a simple question of losing their autonomy forever by caving in or making a stand right then and there. They decided to make a stand. you colonized it using tech we both made independently and gave us nothing of your findings
No, we made the technology jointly, we simply wished to seek our own autonomy and colonize our own worlds, we owed you nothing:
Shortly after jump gate technology was jointly discovered by the Gallente and the Caldari a little over five hundred years before the Federation formed, the Caldari corporations had started their own interstellar surveying and colonization, separate from that conducted by the Gallente. It was these colonies, kept as a secret from the Gallenteans, that became the source of friction between the Gallenteans and the Caldari, culminating in the latterGÇÖs defection from the Federation and an ensuing war between the two races.
FIVE HUNDRED YEARS before the Federation was even created we began this. |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:09:00 -
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Van Aewulf wrote:Ragna Soul wrote:All the Caldari cares about is money their big corporations run Caldari. this is not freedom. The Gallente will fight to the death for real freedom and i all i can say is that CRUX SPECIAL TASKS GROUP and all the other corporations in the Gallente federation will bring Caldari down Your people seek to oppress us and force us back into a union we no longer wish to be a part. These colonies were our property and your Gallentean government sought to rip them from our hands. We said no and you effectively declared war on us by blockading our homeworld. Shame on you and all other Gallente. See this fight for what it is! We fight for these reasons: Founded on the tenets of patriotism and hard work that carried its ancestors through hardships on an inhospitable homeworld, the Caldari State is today a corporate dictatorship, led by rulers who are determined to see it return to the meritocratic ideals of old. Ruthless and efficient in the boardroom as well as on the battlefield, the Caldari are living emblems of strength, persistence, and dignity.
You forget, your leaders are dictators that give the people no say in who has a position of power. You claim we oppress you but you oppress yourselves |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:11:00 -
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We openly gave you info of our findings but you intentionally hid yours, that action screams of plans of betrayal |
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Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:18:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:We openly gave you info of our findings but you intentionally hid yours, that action screams of plans of betrayal
We did nothing of the sort. You found out about our colonies and IMMEDIATELY demanded their surrender to Federation control out of fear. Fear of no longer being in power, fear of no longer being in control. Your fear betrayed your people. The gut reaction of utter terror that our people had built an empire without your knowledge.
We abided by the terms of the Federation until you sought to decimate what we had built ourselves. The Gallente are only interested in cultural assimilation. We will fought to maintain our culture, and traditions... I only hope our Intaki and Mannar brothers will do the same someday and finally put the Gallente where they belong! |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:21:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:You forget, your leaders are dictators that give the people no say in who has a position of power. You claim we oppress you but you oppress yourselves
Our leaders are trying to save us from your war of oppression. We must have firm leadership (read: Cincinnatus of Rome) in order to defeat your attempt to force us to live life according to your terms.
What makes you think the Gallente way of life is the way all people want to live? What makes you so sure that your way is the best way? We want to live this way, and yet you persist in forcing us to live life your way. No more! |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:23:00 -
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Van Aewulf wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:We openly gave you info of our findings but you intentionally hid yours, that action screams of plans of betrayal We did nothing of the sort. You found out about our colonies and IMMEDIATELY demanded their surrender to Federation control out of fear. Fear of no longer being in power, fear of no longer being in control. Your fear betrayed your people. The gut reaction of utter terror that our people had built an empire without your knowledge. We abided by the terms of the Federation until you sought to decimate what we had built ourselves. The Gallente are only interested in cultural assimilation. We will fought to maintain our culture, and traditions... I only hope our Intaki and Mannar brothers will do the same someday and finally put the Gallente where they belong!
If we are focused on cultural assimilation why do the other races maintain theirs and ally with the minmatar. Holding those secret colonies was a violation of the federation rules. We didn't blockade the planet until you blockaded the acceleration gates to the places you held illegally |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:26:00 -
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Van Aewulf wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:You forget, your leaders are dictators that give the people no say in who has a position of power. You claim we oppress you but you oppress yourselves Our leaders are trying to save us from your war of oppression. We must have firm leadership (read: Cincinnatus of Rome) in order to defeat your attempt to force us to live life according to your terms. What makes you think the Gallente way of life is the way all people want to live? What makes you so sure that your way is the best way? We want to live this way, and yet you persist in forcing us to live life your way. No more!
I think so because it is a Democratic Society controlled by the people, not a society in which the common man is left oblivious to the powers that be. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:27:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:
If we are focused on cultural assimilation why do the other races maintain theirs and ally with the minmatar. Holding those secret colonies was a violation of the federation rules. We didn't blockade the planet until you blockaded the acceleration gates to the places you held illegally
Show me where they violated Federation rules! There were no rules regarding this, and anything not outlined by the rules of the Federation are left to the individual states and people. There was NOTHING governing that we were not allowed to colonize our own worlds.
Have you read what the other races say about their own plight? Have you read the stories of the Intaki and their liberation movement? (Seriously there is a whole movement called the Intaki Liberation Front iirc) The Intaki deserve their independence from Gallentean oppression and control as much as we do. Your people seek to dominate and control through subtle means, to seduce us with your pleasures and lead us astray such that we forget who we are and where we come from. That we will all become egalitarian Gallenteans like you. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:28:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:I think so because it is a Democratic Society controlled by the people, not a society in which the common man is left oblivious to the powers that be.
Sorry friend your counter argument doesn't make any sense.
I'm saying that we, as the Caldari people, don't need your 'democratic society', and we don't think it's the best form of government. We believe in meritocracy, people earning things because of their abilities:
Founded on the tenets of patriotism and hard work that carried its ancestors through hardships on an inhospitable homeworld, the Caldari State is today a corporate dictatorship, led by rulers who are determined to see it return to the meritocratic ideals of old. Ruthless and efficient in the boardroom as well as on the battlefield, the Caldari are living emblems of strength, persistence, and dignity. |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:32:00 -
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CCP Activate SiSi Player Orbital Strikes for this! i want bigger guns already.
I have already found my character in station. But cannot figure out how they go from there to E-RPGP in order to fight on that planet. I want a jump clone to Jove space for my pilot as well!
Let the war begin! |
aden slayer
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
407
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:35:00 -
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Van Aewulf wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:I think so because it is a Democratic Society controlled by the people, not a society in which the common man is left oblivious to the powers that be. Sorry friend your counter argument doesn't make any sense. I'm saying that we, as the Caldari people, don't need your 'democratic society', and we don't think it's the best form of government. We believe in meritocracy, people earning things because of their abilities: Founded on the tenets of patriotism and hard work that carried its ancestors through hardships on an inhospitable homeworld, the Caldari State is today a corporate dictatorship, led by rulers who are determined to see it return to the meritocratic ideals of old. Ruthless and efficient in the boardroom as well as on the battlefield, the Caldari are living emblems of strength, persistence, and dignity.
You should just chill van. BTW it's just a game! Why are you worked up about it? |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:37:00 -
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Van Aewulf wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:I think so because it is a Democratic Society controlled by the people, not a society in which the common man is left oblivious to the powers that be. Sorry friend your counter argument doesn't make any sense. I'm saying that we, as the Caldari people, don't need your 'democratic society', and we don't think it's the best form of government. We believe in meritocracy, people earning things because of their abilities: Founded on the tenets of patriotism and hard work that carried its ancestors through hardships on an inhospitable homeworld, the Caldari State is today a corporate dictatorship, led by rulers who are determined to see it return to the meritocratic ideals of old. Ruthless and efficient in the boardroom as well as on the battlefield, the Caldari are living emblems of strength, persistence, and dignity.
Those rulers are just business men looking for a profit. So in a modern society, the average person should have absolutely no say in how the government is run? Your so called meritocracy is just.another way of saying corporate dictatorship as in a society in which money proceeds everything else as the most important thing to obtain |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:39:00 -
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Van Aewulf wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:
If we are focused on cultural assimilation why do the other races maintain theirs and ally with the minmatar. Holding those secret colonies was a violation of the federation rules. We didn't blockade the planet until you blockaded the acceleration gates to the places you held illegally
Show me where they violated Federation rules! There were no rules regarding this, and anything not outlined by the rules of the Federation are left to the individual states and people. There was NOTHING governing that we were not allowed to colonize our own worlds. Have you read what the other races say about their own plight? Have you read the stories of the Intaki and their liberation movement? (Seriously there is a whole movement called the Intaki Liberation Front iirc) The Intaki deserve their independence from Gallentean oppression and control as much as we do. Your people seek to dominate and control through subtle means, to seduce us with your pleasures and lead us astray such that we forget who we are and where we come from. That we will all become egalitarian Gallenteans like you.
You WILLINGLY joined the federation, then betrayed it's trust by amassing a seperate military power in an attempt to take us over |
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Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:39:00 -
[51] - Quote
aden slayer wrote:
You should just chill van. BTW it's just a game! Why are you worked up about it?
I'm having fun though. :(
Gallente are evil.
I'm speaking out against the evil Gallente... in response to what the thread was about it. Ya?
Many people seem to think the Gallente are freedom fighters. I'm attempting to show them that they mirror the notion of American imperialism. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:41:00 -
[52] - Quote
STB Vermaak Doe wrote:
You WILLINGLY joined the federation, then betrayed it's trust by amassing a seperate military power in an attempt to take us over
There is NO evidence we ever intended to take you over! You assume that based on nothing. Nothing at all. There were no conspiracies, there is no evidence, there is nothing to prove that the Caldari ever had any intention of betraying the trust of the Federation.
Your Federation found out about our colonies and freaked out and ordered us to hand them over. We simply said no. THAT is what happened.
There were no rules stating we had to report everything we did. We had a right to privacy. |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:44:00 -
[53] - Quote
Van Aewulf wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:
You WILLINGLY joined the federation, then betrayed it's trust by amassing a seperate military power in an attempt to take us over
There is NO evidence we ever intended to take you over! You assume that based on nothing. Nothing at all. There were no conspiracies, there is no evidence, there is nothing to prove that the Caldari ever had any intention of betraying the trust of the Federation. Your Federation found out about our colonies and freaked out and ordered us to hand them over. We simply said no. THAT is what happened. There were no rules stating we had to report everything we did. We had a right to privacy.
Amassing a seperate military power out side the joint military was all the proof we needed against you. What possible reason could the separate military power be created when all of the know races were on good terms? |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:47:00 -
[54] - Quote
STB Vermaak Doe wrote:
Amassing a seperate military power out side the joint military was all the proof we needed against you. What possible reason could the separate military power be created when all of the know races were on good terms?
To police our own colonies. If we used Federation forces then it wouldn't have been a secret would it? Furthermore, that is a baseless assumption. There was never any intent to rebel against the Federation, and history (read:lore) will prove me right. See for yourself in the Chronicles.
Edit: I'm out for the night guys, it's been fun. I have to work at 8am and it's 1am now. o/ G'night. |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:52:00 -
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Van Aewulf wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:
Amassing a seperate military power out side the joint military was all the proof we needed against you. What possible reason could the separate military power be created when all of the know races were on good terms?
To police our own colonies. If we used Federation forces then it wouldn't have been a secret would it? Furthermore, that is a baseless assumption. There was never any intent to rebel against the Federation, and history (read:lore) will prove me right. See for yourself in the Chronicles.
What is the point of it bring a secret?no matter how well you defend it independently it would be better defended by the federation fleet. Secrets are a sign of betrayal no matter how you say it. Ignoring your actions would have been a great lapse in judgment equivalent to ignoring a potential terrorist attack |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:54:00 -
[56] - Quote
Van Aewulf wrote:aden slayer wrote:
You should just chill van. BTW it's just a game! Why are you worked up about it?
I'm having fun though. :( Gallente are evil. I'm speaking out against the evil Gallente... in response to what the thread was about it. Ya? Many people seem to think the Gallente are freedom fighters. I'm attempting to show them that they mirror the notion of American imperialism.
Your society closely resebles capitalism without the possibility of the poor becoming rich through hard work and skill |
aden slayer
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
407
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Posted - 2012.08.31 05:01:00 -
[57] - Quote
Van Aewulf wrote:aden slayer wrote:
You should just chill van. BTW it's just a game! Why are you worked up about it?
I'm having fun though. :( Gallente are evil. I'm speaking out against the evil Gallente... in response to what the thread was about it. Ya? Many people seem to think the Gallente are freedom fighters. I'm attempting to show them that they mirror the notion of American imperialism.
I really think each side has a thought of who was right and who was wrong.
People who support the federation thinks the Caldari started the war by separating from us. There really is no need to overreact as if this really happened in real life. |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.08.31 05:02:00 -
[58] - Quote
aden slayer wrote:Van Aewulf wrote:aden slayer wrote:
You should just chill van. BTW it's just a game! Why are you worked up about it?
I'm having fun though. :( Gallente are evil. I'm speaking out against the evil Gallente... in response to what the thread was about it. Ya? Many people seem to think the Gallente are freedom fighters. I'm attempting to show them that they mirror the notion of American imperialism. I really think each side has a thought of who was right and who was wrong. People who support the federation thinks the Caldari started the war by separating from us. There really is no need to overreact as if this really happened in real life.
+1 i just defend who i find in the right |
carl von oppenheimer
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
158
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Posted - 2012.08.31 09:00:00 -
[59] - Quote
Van Aewulf wrote:LOL silly Gallente think they can run a government.
Seriously though: we're fighting for our independence, you're fighting a war of conquest. So hear me my fellow countrymen, let's fight off these imperialistic Gallente and free ourselves of the chains they call 'freedom'.
Sure independence to be hereditary corporate slaves, we shall crush your empire of tyranny, freedom will prevail. |
EMPTY SL0T
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2012.08.31 12:28:00 -
[60] - Quote
Why does this thread remind me of the current U.S. Presidential election campaigns?
M.T. |
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kellogs27
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
63
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Posted - 2012.08.31 12:38:00 -
[61] - Quote
Get pumped boys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEmLcoRpCEo |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.08.31 13:12:00 -
[62] - Quote
STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Van Aewulf wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:
Amassing a seperate military power out side the joint military was all the proof we needed against you. What possible reason could the separate military power be created when all of the know races were on good terms?
To police our own colonies. If we used Federation forces then it wouldn't have been a secret would it? Furthermore, that is a baseless assumption. There was never any intent to rebel against the Federation, and history (read:lore) will prove me right. See for yourself in the Chronicles. What is the point of it bring a secret?no matter how well you defend it independently it would be better defended by the federation fleet. Secrets are a sign of betrayal no matter how you say it. Ignoring your actions would have been a great lapse in judgment equivalent to ignoring a potential terrorist attack
We had no obligation to tell you about them. We were building them before we joined the Federation and there was no question then. It was our business. I'll provide you with two facts:
Shortly after jump gate technology was jointly discovered by the Gallente and the Caldari a little over five hundred years before the Federation formed, the Caldari corporations had started their own interstellar surveying and colonization, separate from that conducted by the Gallente. It was these colonies, kept as a secret from the Gallenteans, that became the source of friction between the Gallenteans and the Caldari, culminating in the latterGÇÖs defection from the Federation and an ensuing war between the two races.
500 years before. And culturally, our people believe in minding our own business. Your people meddle with everything.
Therefore, the Caldari view slavery as a misguided notion that does more harm to an economy (and thus a proper society) than good. However, the Caldari also consider the affairs of other nations their own business, as long as it does no direct harm to the State. As a result, the Caldari find no difficulty in being allied with the Amarr Empire and Khanid Kingdom. They may believe those nations would serve as better trading partners should they abolish slavery, but they wouldn't presume to meddle with their society.
Furthermore, a few of our extremists blow up a dome. How you respond?! With orbital bombardment of our homeworld! Billions were effected, millions were evacuated. That's like going thermonuclear on an island nation for killing a few of your citizens. The response was way out of line, and you didn't even give the Caldari time to investigate and find the criminals responsible. You just immediately launched into a war, orbital bombardment, and planetary invasion. Your people should be ashamed.
Following the attack on Nouvelle Rouvenor an extreme right-wing government grabbed the power reigns in the Gallente Federation and advocated a harsh response: bombing Caldari Prime and sending in troops to take control of the planet. Those within the Federation believing that peace talks should be initiated instead of an invasion didnGÇÖt dare speak up for fear of being branded cowards or, worse, traitors; the Gallente war machine grinded into gear.
It soon became obvious that it was a question of when, not if, the Gallenteans would take full control of the planet. The newly formed Caldari government, led by the heads of the Corporations, was far from being in full agreement as to what the correct course of action was. This disagreement, which severely hampered the Caldari State in following a coherent strategy, was only settled after the Morning of Reasoning, when the six most militant Corporations jointly ousted the other CEOGÇÖs from power. The Caldari saw that it was impossible to try to fight the much larger Gallente Federation for control of Caldari Prime. Instead, they started devising a plan to evacuate the Caldari population on the planet. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.08.31 13:14:00 -
[63] - Quote
aden slayer wrote:Van Aewulf wrote:aden slayer wrote:
You should just chill van. BTW it's just a game! Why are you worked up about it?
I'm having fun though. :( Gallente are evil. I'm speaking out against the evil Gallente... in response to what the thread was about it. Ya? Many people seem to think the Gallente are freedom fighters. I'm attempting to show them that they mirror the notion of American imperialism. I really think each side has a thought of who was right and who was wrong. People who support the federation thinks the Caldari started the war by separating from us. There really is no need to overreact as if this really happened in real life.
Edit: LARP is kind of a misnomer since it denotes live action. Rather, this is just plain RPing. Sorry for the confusion.
C'mon bro you've never heard of [LA]RPing? It's for effect man. =\ gonna call you Buzz Killington from now on.
Also, if I may respond to your other point, your people started the conflict but attempted to wrest control of our colonies away from us that we had rightfully built before we ever joined the Federation:
Shortly after jump gate technology was jointly discovered by the Gallente and the Caldari a little over five hundred years before the Federation formed, the Caldari corporations had started their own interstellar surveying and colonization, separate from that conducted by the Gallente. It was these colonies, kept as a secret from the Gallenteans, that became the source of friction between the Gallenteans and the Caldari, culminating in the latterGÇÖs defection from the Federation and an ensuing war between the two races.
It all started when a Gallente exploration ship happened upon one of the hidden Caldari colonies. When the Federation Senate learned of this they demanded a full-scale investigation into the matter and that all hidden Caldari colonies should immediately been put under Federation authority. This was too much for the Caldari Corporations, which were already grumbling over increasing Federation interference into their affairs. For the Caldari it was a simple question of losing their autonomy forever by caving in or making a stand right then and there. They decided to make a stand. |
Terram Nenokal
BetaMax.
115
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Posted - 2012.08.31 13:58:00 -
[64] - Quote
aden slayer wrote:Van Aewulf wrote:aden slayer wrote:
You should just chill van. BTW it's just a game! Why are you worked up about it?
I'm having fun though. :( Gallente are evil. I'm speaking out against the evil Gallente... in response to what the thread was about it. Ya? Many people seem to think the Gallente are freedom fighters. I'm attempting to show them that they mirror the notion of American imperialism. I really think each side has a thought of who was right and who was wrong. People who support the federation thinks the Caldari started the war by separating from us. There really is no need to overreact as if this really happened in real life.
If role play makes you THAT uncomfortable, maybe you shouldn't participate.
*is pumped* |
uruz7 fish
FDF Industries Hedonistic Imperative
108
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Posted - 2012.08.31 14:04:00 -
[65] - Quote
go bang some more drums you dirty hippies! |
Hollow Ling
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.08.31 14:31:00 -
[66] - Quote
So what time do the games start est time? |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.08.31 14:36:00 -
[67] - Quote
Hollow Ling wrote:So what time do the games start est time?
There is a thread somewhere about it.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=33825&find=unread |
aden slayer
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
407
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Posted - 2012.08.31 14:56:00 -
[68] - Quote
Terram Nenokal wrote:aden slayer wrote:Van Aewulf wrote:aden slayer wrote:
You should just chill van. BTW it's just a game! Why are you worked up about it?
I'm having fun though. :( Gallente are evil. I'm speaking out against the evil Gallente... in response to what the thread was about it. Ya? Many people seem to think the Gallente are freedom fighters. I'm attempting to show them that they mirror the notion of American imperialism. I really think each side has a thought of who was right and who was wrong. People who support the federation thinks the Caldari started the war by separating from us. There really is no need to overreact as if this really happened in real life. If role play makes you THAT uncomfortable, maybe you shouldn't participate.
shouldn't we start killing caldari troops instead of role playing?
get to your drop-pod solider! |
Terram Nenokal
BetaMax.
115
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Posted - 2012.08.31 15:07:00 -
[69] - Quote
aden slayer wrote:shouldn't we start killing caldari troops instead of role playing?
get to your drop-pod solider!
I've been killing Caldari troops since 2004, brother.
As far as I'm is concerned, killing Caldari troops is role playing. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.08.31 15:08:00 -
[70] - Quote
Terram Nenokal wrote:aden slayer wrote:shouldn't we start killing caldari troops instead of role playing?
get to your drop-pod solider! I've been killing Caldari troops since 2004, brother. As far as I'm is concerned, killing Caldari troops is role playing.
While you are Federation scum, I will concur that killing Federation troops is always roleplaying.
Can't wait until my work day is over |
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Knarf Black
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
397
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Posted - 2012.08.31 15:14:00 -
[71] - Quote
Death to the Gallente and whatever it is they stand for!
Long live Caldari and our various values and beliefs, whatever they may be! |
D3LTA NORMANDY
Doomheim
101
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Posted - 2012.08.31 15:45:00 -
[72] - Quote
Let-¦s kick in their kapitalistic a***s!! |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.08.31 15:48:00 -
[73] - Quote
uruz7 fish wrote:go bang some more drums you dirty hippies!
hey just cause we are totally brainwashed. (Amarr Lazor using Fatsuit) |
MrShooter01
Expert Intervention Caldari State
268
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Posted - 2012.08.31 16:10:00 -
[74] - Quote
Let me just say that though we may be at war (again) I respect you and your government's reasons for starting it.
All those years ago when we were technically a part of the federation and shared home planets in the same solar system, we crossed a line by refusing to pay taxes on deep space colonies that might have been accidentally left off the agenda for the monthly senate hearings. I think all of us Caldari can agree that getting caught perpetrating tax evasion is a serious taboo. Why, our accountants would hang their own grandmothers if they failed to declare a gift on their yearly income tax, so we shouldn't expect special treatment.
Our corporate "government" broke a law, and what's more had the gall to demand a little independence, and by golly you took action. While some of the whiny college professor types might say blockading our home planet and bombing the absolute **** out of it with nukes may have been a disproportionate response, it got RESULTS!
By forcing us to evacuate massive portions of our civilian population from our own home planet while our military sacrificed itself in a series of desperate suicide missions in order to prevent our genocide, you made an example out of us. People will think twice before ever failing to report assets to the Federation Revenue Service!
I seriously can not think of a more bureaucratic reason to start a war, it almost brings a tear to my eye. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.08.31 16:17:00 -
[75] - Quote
MrShooter01 wrote:Let me just say that though we may be at war (again) I respect you and your government's reasons for starting it.
All those years ago when we were technically a part of the federation and shared home planets in the same solar system, we crossed a line by refusing to pay taxes on deep space colonies that might have been accidentally left off the agenda for the monthly senate hearings. I think all of us Caldari can agree that getting caught perpetrating tax evasion is a serious taboo. Why, our accountants would hang their own grandmothers if they failed to declare a gift on their yearly income tax, so we shouldn't expect special treatment.
Our corporate "government" broke a law, and what's more had the gall to demand a little independence, and by golly you took action. While some of the whiny college professor types might say blockading our home planet and bombing the absolute **** out of it with nukes may have been a disproportionate response, it got RESULTS!
By forcing us to evacuate massive portions of our civilian population from our own home planet while our military sacrificed itself in a series of desperate suicide missions in order to prevent our genocide, you made an example out of us. People will think twice before ever failing to report assets to the Federation Revenue Service!
I seriously can not think of a more bureaucratic reason to start a war, it almost brings a tear to my eye.
LOL and truth comrade. I'm going to save this post. I'll reference you if I use it. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.31 16:21:00 -
[76] - Quote
You telling me that the Caldari MQ are better than Gallente MQ? Caldari is space talk for jelly. |
Naturi Riclenore
BetaMax.
120
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Posted - 2012.08.31 16:24:00 -
[77] - Quote
The Caldari shall dread the day they ever came up against the Gallente... Our people are strong, our loyalty endless, and our morale high. We stand ready to defend freedom and peace. All that you cherish shall become our spoils. Your leaders shall fall at our hands and your people will know true freedom.
Gallente Shall rule the day |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.08.31 16:29:00 -
[78] - Quote
Naturi Riclenore wrote:The Caldari shall dread the day they ever came up against the Gallente... Our people are strong, our loyalty endless, and our morale high. We stand ready to defend freedom and peace. All that you cherish shall become our spoils. Your leaders shall fall at our hands and your people will know true freedom.
Gallente Shall rule the day
Your people perpetrate a war of aggression against us, and do so in the name of peace and democracy. Then proclaim that you'll take our colonies as your spoils and 'free' our people by bombing and invasion.
How can you perpetrate such hostility and casualties in the name of freedom of peace? All you bring is death and misery.
The Caldari people stand and defend their homes. You seek to claim them for yourselves. You're thieves, pirates, and murderers. |
SkunkyUK
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.08.31 17:26:00 -
[79] - Quote
Van Aewulf wrote:[quote=Naturi Riclenore]
The Caldari people stand and defend their homes. You seek to claim them for yourselves. You're thieves, pirates, and murderers.
We are murderers and we shall take your homes and your women .. er, for whatever reason we stand for ..and stuff. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.08.31 17:45:00 -
[80] - Quote
SkunkyUK wrote:Van Aewulf wrote:[quote=Naturi Riclenore]
The Caldari people stand and defend their homes. You seek to claim them for yourselves. You're thieves, pirates, and murderers. We are murderers and we shall take your homes and your women .. er, for whatever reason we stand for ..and stuff.
I respect your honesty, at least. |
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Mariano G
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.08.31 17:47:00 -
[81] - Quote
Gallente ftw becauset their primary color is green |
AC2AW-LEEROY
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
62
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Posted - 2012.08.31 17:54:00 -
[82] - Quote
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:get bent
Should have known you were part of the unwashed masses!
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Aurora Kryzzen
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.08.31 17:55:00 -
[83] - Quote
I'm really digging this thread lol. Kudos to all the nerds and their vast knowledge of lore. |
Osiris Greywolf
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
80
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Posted - 2012.08.31 19:26:00 -
[84] - Quote
All I have to say Is this, the Caldari deserve their freedom, and we will sure as hell give it to them, with liberty and justice for all! Long live the senate, long live the President, long live the federation! |
Quiverous
Dark Harlequin
37
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Posted - 2012.08.31 19:27:00 -
[85] - Quote
+1 for our Gallente allies |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.08.31 19:41:00 -
[86] - Quote
Nothing in the chronicles specifily says that gallente killed caldari civilians, but it is repeatedly stated that both military and non military caldari killed gallente civilians |
D'Finn Rhedlyne
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
266
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Posted - 2012.08.31 22:27:00 -
[87] - Quote
CaldariHAHA! Gallente... losers! |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.08.31 22:32:00 -
[88] - Quote
D'Finn Rhedlyne wrote:CaldariHAHA! Gallente... losers!
This just in, Caldari are yellow |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.08.31 22:40:00 -
[89] - Quote
Caldari is silver tbh
Anyway 1-1 when i got to play, my 2nd game was a walkover
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D'Finn Rhedlyne
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
266
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Posted - 2012.08.31 22:43:00 -
[90] - Quote
DUST Fiend wrote:D'Finn Rhedlyne wrote:CaldariHAHA! Gallente... losers! This just in, Caldari are yellow +1 for the cleverness! -1 for the insult! |
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Xavier Hastings
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
243
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Posted - 2012.08.31 23:00:00 -
[91] - Quote
Van Aewulf wrote:
Gallente are evil.
I'm speaking out against the evil Gallente... in response to what the thread was about it. Ya?
Many people seem to think the Gallente are freedom fighters. I'm attempting to show them that they mirror the notion of American imperialism.
I would like you to see "The World Without US" documentary. It might just change your opinion, but then again, probably not. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.31 23:32:00 -
[92] - Quote
Well, we won the battle I played. No spider tanking in my game though thank goodness. Go back to your silver box and think about your actions shameful Caldari. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.08.31 23:53:00 -
[93] - Quote
Shameful Caldari
We dont want to join the Gallente so for that they bomb our home planet to **** under the guise of 'peace and democracy'
You wont enslave us |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.08.31 23:56:00 -
[94] - Quote
EnglishSnake wrote:Shameful Caldari
We dont want to join the Gallente so for that they bomb our home planet to **** under the guise of 'peace and democracy'
You wont enslave us
Read. Da fuqing. Chronicle. You plotted against us, we attacked first |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.09.01 00:08:00 -
[95] - Quote
STB Vermaak Doe wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:Shameful Caldari
We dont want to join the Gallente so for that they bomb our home planet to **** under the guise of 'peace and democracy'
You wont enslave us Read. Da fuqing. Chronicle. You plotted against us, we attacked first
We plotted nothing
We didnt hurt anyone
We didnt bomb a planet and killed millions because something was hidden
We wanted to stand on our own and you wanted to enslave us for your own benefit
Democracy is just a word you hide behind while you do the opposite and plot
New Eden has seen your true colours
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STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.09.01 00:20:00 -
[96] - Quote
EnglishSnake wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:Shameful Caldari
We dont want to join the Gallente so for that they bomb our home planet to **** under the guise of 'peace and democracy'
You wont enslave us Read. Da fuqing. Chronicle. You plotted against us, we attacked first We plotted nothing We didnt hurt anyone We didnt bomb a planet and killed millions because something was hidden We wanted to stand on our own and you wanted to enslave us for your own benefit Democracy is just a word you hide behind while you do the opposite and plot New Eden has seen your true colours
We both created a federation. We had no reason to enslave you. Hiding your military even though we have the federation military is a sign that you wanted to use it against us |
D'Finn Rhedlyne
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
266
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Posted - 2012.09.01 02:28:00 -
[97] - Quote
STB Vermaak Doe wrote:We both created a federation. We had no reason to enslave you. Hiding your military even though we have the federation military is a sign that you wanted to use it against us Oh.. it got used against you tonight, for sure!! |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.09.01 02:33:00 -
[98] - Quote
D'Finn Rhedlyne wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:We both created a federation. We had no reason to enslave you. Hiding your military even though we have the federation military is a sign that you wanted to use it against us Oh.. it got used against you tonight, for sure!!
Out of the corp battles i was in, we won 2 out of 3 |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.09.01 11:44:00 -
[99] - Quote
STB Vermaak Doe wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:Shameful Caldari
We dont want to join the Gallente so for that they bomb our home planet to **** under the guise of 'peace and democracy'
You wont enslave us Read. Da fuqing. Chronicle. You plotted against us, we attacked first We plotted nothing We didnt hurt anyone We didnt bomb a planet and killed millions because something was hidden We wanted to stand on our own and you wanted to enslave us for your own benefit Democracy is just a word you hide behind while you do the opposite and plot New Eden has seen your true colours We both created a federation. We had no reason to enslave you. Hiding your military even though we have the federation military is a sign that you wanted to use it against us
A 1 side federation at that where you wanted a bigger slice from the Caldari, no wonder our corporations built away from Gallente eyes, why should we give you a piece of the pie if you never helped in creating the pie to begin with, you forced our corporations into this position because you got too greedy and thought you could plunder the Caldari
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.01 13:12:00 -
[100] - Quote
Caldari = Tax dodgers |
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EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.09.01 13:39:00 -
[101] - Quote
Tax dodgers lol
What does that make the Gallente then? ******? |
SoLJae
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
351
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Posted - 2012.09.01 13:41:00 -
[102] - Quote
Got 2 games in last night and won both of them for the Gallente. Is there anyway to check the current standings of the Corp vs Corp? |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.01 13:44:00 -
[103] - Quote
@Snake We're the debt collectors! |
SoLJae
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
351
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Posted - 2012.09.01 13:47:00 -
[104] - Quote
Tony Calif wrote:@Snake We're the debt collectors!
+1 lolol |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.09.01 13:47:00 -
[105] - Quote
Kills innocent people because we wont hand everything over to the Gallente |
SoLJae
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
351
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Posted - 2012.09.01 13:50:00 -
[106] - Quote
EnglishSnake wrote:Kills innocent people because we wont hand everything over to the Gallente
Kills traitors who wanted to undermine the federation with their deception and insurrection. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.09.01 13:58:00 -
[107] - Quote
SoLJae wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:Kills innocent people because we wont hand everything over to the Gallente Kills traitors who wanted to undermine the federation with their deception and insurrection.
Traitors, we didnt even stab you in the back or really do anything, you just wanted to take from us
Gallente remind me of n a z i s tbh |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.09.01 14:49:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Nothing in the chronicles specifily says that gallente killed caldari civilians, but it is repeatedly stated that both military and non military caldari killed gallente civilians
It specifically states the Gallente bombarded the Caldari homeworld. How in the world is that not killing innocent people? You can't be that precise from space, I don't care what technology the Gallente supposedly have.
Even if the strikes were precisely targeted, and judging by the videos released by CCP they were not, the ground invasion had to have suffered civilian casualties. You took our home from us and we fought back. Then, we're branded murderers and traitors for defending our homeworld.
You didn't even give us a chance to hunt down the terrorists who bombed your city on OUR homeworld. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.09.01 14:49:00 -
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Xavier Hastings wrote:Van Aewulf wrote:
Gallente are evil.
I'm speaking out against the evil Gallente... in response to what the thread was about it. Ya?
Many people seem to think the Gallente are freedom fighters. I'm attempting to show them that they mirror the notion of American imperialism.
I would like you to see "The World Without US" documentary. It might just change your opinion, but then again, probably not.
I doubt it would have any such effect. More specifically, I was pointing to 'the notion' rather than stating it was any belief of mine own.
I have my own views of America, and I don't believe they're imperialistic... rather, they make judgments based on what they believe is right for whatever situation is at hand. Whether they make the correct choice or not remains to be seen. Only history will be able to tell our future generations whether or not it was the right choice.
Personally? I feel those resources spent on 'freedom' wars could have been better spent on domestic improvements in an effort to help us better support the world and ourselves. War and death only brings misery with hope of a better future... technological, domestic investment, better education, improved domestic security these things bring happiness with a hope of a better future.
I still stand by it definitely would not. I formulate my own opinions based on the history of what has happened ... not someone's interpretation of what happened. Observing behavior. Bias is unavoidable because we are human, but facts are facts. What did and did not happen... not speculation of 'what could have been'. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.09.01 14:51:00 -
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Syeleos wrote:Let's show the Caldari what the Gallente can do for the name of Freedom!
In the name of freedom? You're forcing us back into a Federation that we don't want to be a part of... how the heck is that freedom?! |
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Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.09.01 14:52:00 -
[111] - Quote
STB Vermaak Doe wrote: We both created a federation. We had no reason to enslave you. Hiding your military even though we have the federation military is a sign that you wanted to use it against us
That is your paranoia talking and trying to justify the act of bombarding our homeworld and pressing an unjust war of aggression against a people whose sole desire is to establish their own national identity.
All you have is: 'your secret colonies scared us'. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.09.01 14:54:00 -
[112] - Quote
Tony Calif wrote:Caldari = Tax dodgers
I know right? The sentence for tax evasion in the Federation is having your homeworld bombarded from space. Watch out Intaki! We already paid the price on this one. Mess with Federation money, have your homeworld bombarded. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.09.01 14:59:00 -
[113] - Quote
SoLJae wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:Kills innocent people because we wont hand everything over to the Gallente Kills traitors who wanted to undermine the federation with their deception and insurrection.
Deception and insurrection?
How many times do I have to say this? Those colonies were built BEFORE the Federation was even formed. Full disclosure was not a term set by the Federation.
You find out about it and blockade our homeworld, preventing supplies and freezing our assets immediately. Then, when the people of Caldari Prime tired of your unjust blockade, they reacted by bombing one of your cities in an effort to get you to stop blockading their homeworld. Before the Caldari authorities *could do anything about it* you let a *fascist, right wing government* take power and go nuclear on our homeworld from space. You carpet bombed our cities and took the planet by means of your ground forces.
The problem here is that your thieving government tried to take from us what we rightfully built with our own resources. We didn't use Federation resources to build those colonies. The Federation didn't exist when we started that project. |
aden slayer
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
407
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Posted - 2012.09.01 15:44:00 -
[114] - Quote
If you guys look at this PAGE here you will see descriptions of the factions.
And The Gallente federation are the good guys BY DEFAULT. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.09.01 16:34:00 -
[115] - Quote
aden slayer wrote:If you guys look at this PAGE here you will see descriptions of the factions. And The Gallente federation are the good guys BY DEFAULT.
Obv lies |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.09.01 17:14:00 -
[116] - Quote
EnglishSnake wrote:SoLJae wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:Kills innocent people because we wont hand everything over to the Gallente Kills traitors who wanted to undermine the federation with their deception and insurrection. Traitors, we didnt even stab you in the back or really do anything, you just wanted to take from us Gallente remind me of n a z i s tbh Your attempt at stabbing us in the back was thwarted when we found out about the army you hid |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.09.01 17:21:00 -
[117] - Quote
Van Aewulf wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Nothing in the chronicles specifily says that gallente killed caldari civilians, but it is repeatedly stated that both military and non military caldari killed gallente civilians It specifically states the Gallente bombarded the Caldari homeworld. How in the world is that not killing innocent people? You can't be that precise from space, I don't care what technology the Gallente supposedly have. Even if the strikes were precisely targeted, and judging by the videos released by CCP they were not, the ground invasion had to have suffered civilian casualties. You took our home from us and we fought back. Then, we're branded murderers and traitors for defending our homeworld. You didn't even give us a chance to hunt down the terrorists who bombed your city on OUR homeworld.
Ewar weapons? The bombardment could have been of trivial landmarks since no death toll or mention of civilian deaths was mentioned.
Once again you betrayed us by hiding military power and it would have been better protected by your army and the federation working together
Ignoring a potential threat is an idiotic action, every race entered the federation on their terms so you can cut the crap of us trying to enslave you or anyone |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.09.01 17:21:00 -
[118] - Quote
EnglishSnake wrote:aden slayer wrote:If you guys look at this PAGE here you will see descriptions of the factions. And The Gallente federation are the good guys BY DEFAULT. Obv lies
Obv denial |
Xavier Hastings
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
243
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Posted - 2012.09.01 17:36:00 -
[119] - Quote
Van Aewulf wrote:SoLJae wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:Kills innocent people because we wont hand everything over to the Gallente Kills traitors who wanted to undermine the federation with their deception and insurrection. Deception and insurrection? How many times do I have to say this? Those colonies were built BEFORE the Federation was even formed. Full disclosure was not a term set by the Federation. You find out about it and blockade our homeworld, preventing supplies and freezing our assets immediately. Then, when the people of Caldari Prime tired of your unjust blockade, they reacted by bombing one of your cities in an effort to get you to stop blockading their homeworld. Before the Caldari authorities *could do anything about it* you let a *fascist, right wing government* take power and go nuclear on our homeworld from space. You carpet bombed our cities and took the planet by means of your ground forces. The problem here is that your thieving government tried to take from us what we rightfully built with our own resources. We didn't use Federation resources to build those colonies. The Federation didn't exist when we started that project. Don't forget your Faction killed more than half a million people when they ruthlessly destroyed the glass dome to our great underwater city, Nouvelle Rouvenor |
Grezkev
The Red Guards
100
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Posted - 2012.09.01 17:44:00 -
[120] - Quote
Anyone care for an interview on behalf of the Gallente Federation? (Low-sec is fine) |
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EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.09.01 19:55:00 -
[121] - Quote
Xavier Hastings wrote:Van Aewulf wrote:SoLJae wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:Kills innocent people because we wont hand everything over to the Gallente Kills traitors who wanted to undermine the federation with their deception and insurrection. Deception and insurrection? How many times do I have to say this? Those colonies were built BEFORE the Federation was even formed. Full disclosure was not a term set by the Federation. You find out about it and blockade our homeworld, preventing supplies and freezing our assets immediately. Then, when the people of Caldari Prime tired of your unjust blockade, they reacted by bombing one of your cities in an effort to get you to stop blockading their homeworld. Before the Caldari authorities *could do anything about it* you let a *fascist, right wing government* take power and go nuclear on our homeworld from space. You carpet bombed our cities and took the planet by means of your ground forces. The problem here is that your thieving government tried to take from us what we rightfully built with our own resources. We didn't use Federation resources to build those colonies. The Federation didn't exist when we started that project. Don't forget your Faction killed more than half a million people when they ruthlessly destroyed the glass dome to our great underwater city, Nouvelle Rouvenor
You brought it upon yourselfs by blockading Caldari Prime and declaring war on our citizens, our citizens who were allowed to live a rich and fulfilling life on our homeworld suddenly found themselfs trapped
You didnt care about your citizens on Caldari Prime, you wanted this war and created the right conditions for it to happen, all it took was a simple spark and your citizens paid the price for your war
For all we know it easily could have been the Gallente which destroyed its own city and killed all those innocent civilians so it could have its precious war |
Skilfer
Nova Corps Marines
19
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Posted - 2012.09.01 20:05:00 -
[122] - Quote
Xavier Hastings wrote:Don't forget your Faction killed more than half a million people when they ruthlessly destroyed the glass dome to our great underwater city, Nouvelle Rouvenor
Your information is incorrect. The Caldari Directorate and the State's Mega Corporations had no part in the destruction of Nouvelle Rouvenor. If you would read your history a little more closely you would have noted that it was an extremist terrorist organization that destroyed the city. The anti-Caldari faction of the Federation government then used this as political leverage to sway public opinion and instigate the war. It was the corruption of the Federation that lead to the war and all the turmoil that followed.
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Saiibot
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
142
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Posted - 2012.09.01 20:25:00 -
[123] - Quote
MMMMmmm.... Calamari... (drools) |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.09.01 20:37:00 -
[124] - Quote
Skilfer wrote:Xavier Hastings wrote:Don't forget your Faction killed more than half a million people when they ruthlessly destroyed the glass dome to our great underwater city, Nouvelle Rouvenor Your information is incorrect. The Caldari Directorate and the State's Mega Corporations had no part in the destruction of Nouvelle Rouvenor. If you would read your history a little more closely you would have noted that it was an extremist terrorist organization that destroyed the city. The anti-Caldari faction of the Federation government then used this as political leverage to sway public opinion and instigate the war. It was the corruption of the Federation that lead to the war and all the turmoil that followed.
And what about the caldari commander that did hit and runs on civilian populated areas of gallente home world |
Xavier Hastings
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
243
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Posted - 2012.09.01 20:59:00 -
[125] - Quote
EnglishSnake wrote:Xavier Hastings wrote: Don't forget your Faction killed more than half a million people when they ruthlessly destroyed the glass dome to our great underwater city, Nouvelle Rouvenor
You brought it upon yourselfs by blockading Caldari Prime and declaring war on our citizens, our citizens who were allowed to live a rich and fulfilling life on our homeworld suddenly found themselfs trapped You didnt care about your citizens on Caldari Prime, you wanted this war and created the right conditions for it to happen, all it took was a simple spark and your citizens paid the price for your war For all we know it easily could have been the Gallente which destroyed its own city and killed all those innocent civilians so it could have its precious war Brought it on ourselves?! I'll have you know that that we blockaded your Faction after you defected from us. We simply had no choice. Gallente citizens were on that planet; we did not know what you were going to do with them. Apparently you had plans on getting rid of them. We were even developing a peace treaty before that fateful event occurred.
Skilfer wrote:Xavier Hastings wrote:Don't forget your Faction killed more than half a million people when they ruthlessly destroyed the glass dome to our great underwater city, Nouvelle Rouvenor Your information is incorrect. The Caldari Directorate and the State's Mega Corporations had no part in the destruction of Nouvelle Rouvenor. If you would read your history a little more closely you would have noted that it was an extremist terrorist organization that destroyed the city. The anti-Caldari faction of the Federation government then used this as political leverage to sway public opinion and instigate the war. It was the corruption of the Federation that lead to the war and all the turmoil that followed. I understand that your tyrannical corporations had no "official" part in that gruesome attack, but that does not prevent them from funding it... |
aden slayer
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
407
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Posted - 2012.09.02 16:16:00 -
[126] - Quote
EnglishSnake wrote:aden slayer wrote:If you guys look at this PAGE here you will see descriptions of the factions. And The Gallente federation are the good guys BY DEFAULT. Obv lies
BY DEFAULT = win
The Devs wrote that page so no want can argue or change it.
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