Drop ships are not air jeeps. It now takes skill to fly them, and that's a good thing.

I'm glad you gave up after 10 minutes. It means the only people flying dropships will be those who took the time to practice them instead of every Johnny Broshooter being able to hop in one and just fly anywhere they want.

I'm having a lot of fun with them, but it's difficult to understand exactly how to work them. Today while piloting one, I died as a result of lag. I noticed another DS so I spawned with a Swarm Launcher to take it out -- we couldn't. I'm not sure how this pilot managed it, but he avoided multiple people using Swarms... My hat goes off to him, but I'd love to know how it was managed.

He probably flew up really high. Right now, dropships can fly high enough so that swarm launchers can't reach them. I wouldn't get too used to that though, I'm sure it'll be fixed soon.

So I have no isk, so I have no dropship of any kind.

do they fly like helicopters or vtols like in the old build or do they fly like fixed wing craft?

Has the vtol element been completely removed?

Compare its handeling to some other flying vehicle in a game so I cant some idea with what all the fus is about.

That way if I get into to one It wont be chaos when im at the wheel.

The only thing I can agree with the OP on is that the sp/isk payout SUX. We should not be penalized like this for this role, it's no longer easy mode to pad assists with and they need to fix our final payout.. I can handle being on the bottom of the score/leader boards but getting 9k SP when you're gunners get 20+ kills is hore'sht.

And how is the dedicated pilot supposed to deck out an advanced dropship at this rate, the only thing he can do is ground pound, not that I personally have a problem with that but some players who are strictly pilot oriented I am sure will..

Personally I think they should be challenging to fly. These things are mobile death machines in the right hands though. Your 1.6M ISK tank? You can run but you sure as hell can't hide.

If I was flying them, i'd love for an alternate control scheme. An alternate control scheme for all vehicles would be nice. I'd like the option to use R2/L2 to accelerate/decelerate, and the rest just like BF3.

Doing everything with the left stick in an LAV is so annoying

it's like a helicopter in BF3, kinda.. it's hard to compare to what it is like but it is not easy nor should it be imo.. the ones last build were easy mode and a joke.. 4 ships on each team all crushing ppl with no gunners and the dropship wrestling matches = no skill involved at all..

if you can't make 151k isk in a couple games to afford one there's something wrong with how you're playing outside of a ship..

OP could just grind isk AFK at the side of the map while complaining here if he really wanted to..

if you can't make 151k isk in a couple games to afford one there's something wrong with how you're playing outside of a ship..
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Anyways, as an immediate fix, speeding up the response for pitch would probably make things a little bit better.

In some ways, the ships are much less agile than before. But on the other hand, you can now pull flight movements that were previously impossible, like backflips and barrell rolls, and even flying upside down (for a few seconds, at least)

lol thats the truth when we go for those tank drivers we normally **** them off huh lazarus

Dropships need better instrumentation to make flying more accurate, and I'm hoping that will come on the HUD of the pilot suit.

agreed the E3 DS flying model was perfect

lol thats the truth when we go for those tank drivers we normally **** them off huh lazarus

IIRC, there are pilot suits coming, so they might be needed to skill up in order to fly the dropships like the old builds. Has anyone maxed out the current pilot skills and did it help with control?