If you are arguing that the imposed turning speed on M&KB is too slow that's fine - just realize they are doing it purposefully to balance with the console turn speeds.

I have a solution. Use the PS3 controller.


Or you could play a PC game instead? :P

I have a solution. Use the PS3 controller.

Or you could play a PC game instead? :P

Edit: I see you haven't mentioned that you understand that there are turn limits on PS3 controllers too, specificated to dropsuits. And I see you haven't mentioned that you know it's to stop M/KB being 'OP'. And I see you haven't mentioned that you know it's to stop people do 360fakieeznoscopedropshotz.

As Blowtorch McHurrypants pointed out, the mouse is only going to move as fast as a controller as any faster would be unfair, to standard controller players...

Op

I use KB/M I am usually the highest or second highest killer in any game i play, have you tried turning mouse smoothing off? i noticed that gimps the mouse speed, if that doesn't fix it i'd say the problem is holding onto the mouse.

I pretty much always fight in an assault suit, while i can nail someone better at medium and long range i have little trouble dealing with people up close, I may not turn quite as fast as a controller but i make up for that in accurate fire.

Do you have the mouse smoothing option turned on? if you do turn it off and you'll notice a huge difference, my mouse sensitivity is set to 21.

I've heard the controllers settings can have some effect on the mouse as well, dunno how good the source on that was but perhaps try leaving the mouse at a certain level and adjusting the controller and see if theres any difference.

Does your mouse have sensitivity buttons on it? you've already tried adjusting those?

Simple solution, separate servers for m&kb and pad players.

There is only one server. Eve is the only MMO to house all player on 1 single shard. Dust is being migrated to the Eve server.
Your solution is flawed. Nothing more.

Are you sure your mouse is actually set to that DPI? I found that mine was set to 1800 by default and had to turn it on to 3800 DPI via the software.

Wearing a scout suit I usually don't have a problem in CQC with regards to turn speed.

Sorry, let me rephrase that - separate battles for m&kb or pad players.

No sympathy. Most of the ps3 population didnt want KBM because of the way it makes everyone snipers.

Go check how many "omg snipers" threads there were before this build. Exactly none.
Within hours of kb/m going live, we had threads about being constantly sniped. Sorry but this is the main reason for KBM. Show me some good KBM players. Where are they? Seriously yo... Where are the elite of shooters? I want to fight them...

Anyway, no M&KB support means simply another game for me not to waste money on, and for that reason I'm out. Enjoy your autoaim ham-fisted pads

Sorry, let me rephrase that - separate battles for m&kb or pad players.

I didn't come crying about it, I came posting my experiences about what I felt was an issue and my suggestions on how to address the issue - you know, the way beta testers are supposed to? I would have thought you may have realised that since you've made such an effort to emphasise the fact that it is a TEST environment. Thankfully not everyone is as aggressive as the majority of members of this community appear to be, and I've actually had some useful suggestions and feedback regarding my issues, however give the attitude that seems to be very evident here, I'm not sure it's a community I want to be a part of as unfortunately people being ***** isn't something that can be bug-fixed or beta-tested out.

That being said, it is still summer holidays, so give it a couple of weeks and there may be a higher proportion of people willing to act like adults :)

I didn't come crying about it, I came posting my experiences about what I felt was an issue and my suggestions on how to address the issue - you know, the way beta testers are supposed to? I would have thought you may have realised that since you've made such an effort to emphasise the fact that it is a TEST environment. Thankfully not everyone is as aggressive as the majority of members of this community appear to be, and I've actually had some useful suggestions and feedback regarding my issues, however give the attitude that seems to be very evident here, I'm not sure it's a community I want to be a part of as unfortunately people being ***** isn't something that can be bug-fixed or beta-tested out.

That being said, it is still summer holidays, so give it a couple of weeks and there may be a higher proportion of people willing to act like adults :)

As a long time PC gamer, unfortunately relegated to the ranks of consolite due to various financial commitments (babies are expensive!!), imagine my excitement when I noticed Dust supported mouse & keyboard! Barely able to contain my emotions, I dusted off (pardon the pun! ) my trusty G500 and Saitek Eclipse and plugged them into the PS3.

"Lets go set up my controls" I thought to myself, navigating to the M&KB section of the Neocon. "Oh. I can't... well, maybe they're adding that later, I guess I can figure out what the keys do by trial and error"

After much experimentation, I managed to join a battle, and prepared to rain fiery death upon my foes. Or not. "Mouse seems a bit slow, I'll just turn up the sensitivity." 5 minutes later, and having resorted to using the pad because the keyboard controls are extremely unintuitive, I see that the sensitivity is already maxed. "Right, well I'll just turn it up on the mouse then" *tries* "huh... that hasn't really made much difference."

Long story short, M&KB is great for sniping, however I couldn't even turn quick enough to track someone running across my screen about 100m away. It also takes 3-4 full lengths of my (larger than normal) mousepad to turn 360 degrees.

This really can't be right with a 5700 dpi mouse, and I'm really hoping that CCP decide to do something about this - while I appreciate it's a console game, and pad is of course the standard control method, if you're going to add M&KB support, please please please make it work; there's no point adding it as a feature if it's only going to be tagged on (yes I realise it's a beta and they may have plans to fix it, but the more feedback they get, the more likely they are to fix things, right?)

Add fully customisable keymappings, and increase the mouse sensitivity (or at least the sensitivity range so those of us who like our mice twitchy can set it so.)

I ended up going back to the pad in frustration, and I hate playing shooters with a pad!

Separating servers make no sense at all, this isnt a regular game, unless its ment for totally randomic matches in highsec, wich dosent matter anyway in any competitive sense.

Because the way I see it we will be fighting for control in planets in a shared environment. It makes no sense to split people, nor would that work.

"Lets invade sector 1 of planet DS-3KB ... oh wait their team is 100% ds3 and ours is kbm, so we cant invade".

Just make the controls work as they should.

KBM isnt terrible, but it has worst turning speed than the DS3. They should be equal. Not one better than the other.

I believe thats what most people expect, in both camps.

*cry*

Why implement a feature and then gimp it to the point it's virtually useless?

If they're going to implement M&KB, then there's no point in sticking it in just for the sake of it. If they're doing it to try appeal to the PC gamers (like myself), having it borked in such a way isn't going to help at all, they'd be better either removing it completely, or making it usable.

Simple solution, separate servers for m&kb and pad players.

Just as an FYI... CCP has imposed a certain turning speed to the mouse so as to level the playing field between console controllers and M&KB. Mice will always be able to turn faster given the opportunity (it's a physical real-life movement) versus pushing an extreme on a controller joystick and turning at the set speed.

If you are arguing that the imposed turning speed on M&KB is too slow that's fine - just realize they are doing it purposefully to balance with the console turn speeds.

The sluggish turn speed of your mouse will never go away, but you may provide feedback that it is slower than the controller. If its the exact same turn speed, however, you have no legs to stand on.

I use KB/M I am usually the highest or second highest killer in any game i play, have you tried turning mouse smoothing off? i noticed that gimps the mouse speed, if that doesn't fix it i'd say the problem is holding onto the mouse.

sry if your dreams of finally pwning inferior ds3 players have turned into nightmares

As a long time PC gamer, unfortunately relegated to the ranks of consolite due to various financial commitments (babies are expensive!!), imagine my excitement when I noticed Dust supported mouse & keyboard! Barely able to contain my emotions, I dusted off (pardon the pun! ) my trusty G500 and Saitek Eclipse and plugged them into the PS3.

"Lets go set up my controls" I thought to myself, navigating to the M&KB section of the Neocon. "Oh. I can't... well, maybe they're adding that later, I guess I can figure out what the keys do by trial and error"

After much experimentation, I managed to join a battle, and prepared to rain fiery death upon my foes. Or not. "Mouse seems a bit slow, I'll just turn up the sensitivity." 5 minutes later, and having resorted to using the pad because the keyboard controls are extremely unintuitive, I see that the sensitivity is already maxed. "Right, well I'll just turn it up on the mouse then" *tries* "huh... that hasn't really made much difference."

Long story short, M&KB is great for sniping, however I couldn't even turn quick enough to track someone running across my screen about 100m away. It also takes 3-4 full lengths of my (larger than normal) mousepad to turn 360 degrees.

This really can't be right with a 5700 dpi mouse, and I'm really hoping that CCP decide to do something about this - while I appreciate it's a console game, and pad is of course the standard control method, if you're going to add M&KB support, please please please make it work; there's no point adding it as a feature if it's only going to be tagged on (yes I realise it's a beta and they may have plans to fix it, but the more feedback they get, the more likely they are to fix things, right?)

Add fully customisable keymappings, and increase the mouse sensitivity (or at least the sensitivity range so those of us who like our mice twitchy can set it so.)

I ended up going back to the pad in frustration, and I hate playing shooters with a pad!