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THCFORME
Air Raiders
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Posted - 2012.08.29 01:03:00 -
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Title says it all. These forums are like 1000x worse than mag forums ever were. We might actually start seeing some improvement if everyone here wasn't so busy smack talking each other and started giving solid input without trolling each other. I had high hopes for this game, and got very excited when i got my beta code the first round of releases, but if this community can't settle down and agree that there are fixes that need to be made and stop bad mouthing one another for whatever reasons, i am very afraid dust is gonna flop.
I just hope CCP isn't taking notes from either side, because both seem to be out to ruin this game, whether they know it or not. This game is not perfect as it is, and the excuse of "its just a beta" isn't valid anymore. If the game remains how it is now, it will turn into the same 60 people fighting each other because the mass majority will play for a week and leave(especially if this whole "its just a beta" mentality keeps going and nothing ever gets fixed. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2012.08.29 01:19:00 -
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Clearly you've never stopped by the Starcraft 2 forums.... |
Kay High
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.29 01:21:00 -
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I agree with you in that people (myself included sometimes) get too involved in whatever Camp we are in. I personally have faith that CCP will get this right and they will fix the problems. This is like when America started exploring space, there will be mistakes but hopefully we will learn from them. |
Amazigh Stormrage
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.29 01:25:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Clearly you've never stopped by the Starcraft 2 forums....
or the diablo forum on it release, gaining 3 pages per econd of people shittingabout,
i made a post about stoppingto cry and shitting arround, we are, i say it again, assisting ccp into making thiss game a top of the line game. period, go check out my smalll post about it, even tho there are a few smacktalkers going all off toppic on it. |
Icy Tiger
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Posted - 2012.08.29 01:27:00 -
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Star hawk forums. The devs were great, and listened to a bickering community which tore the game apart. Sad thing was, I had more fun in the beta than in the final game. |
crazy space
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.29 01:30:00 -
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oh what is wrong with you maggot. This kinda love is mans love. You got to be a badass sweaty bro to make friends here you loser.!
But seriously don't pay attention to them, join a corp with a good community. done let the bros play with each other, we're not all scary. Want to start a corp hunt together? |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.29 01:34:00 -
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THCFORME wrote:Title says it all. These forums are like 1000x worse than mag forums ever were. We might actually start seeing some improvement if everyone here wasn't so busy smack talking each other and started giving solid input without trolling each other. I had high hopes for this game, and got very excited when i got my beta code the first round of releases, but if this community can't settle down and agree that there are fixes that need to be made and stop bad mouthing one another for whatever reasons, i am very afraid dust is gonna flop.
I just hope CCP isn't taking notes from either side, because both seem to be out to ruin this game, whether they know it or not. This game is not perfect as it is, and the excuse of "its just a beta" isn't valid anymore. If the game remains how it is now, it will turn into the same 60 people fighting each other because the mass majority will play for a week and leave(especially if this whole "its just a beta" mentality keeps going and nothing ever gets fixed.
I agree wholeheartedly. Although there's been times when I've got a bit hot headed/defensive, but I've always sent an apology to my 'victim' via dust mail.
I think alot of people get angry because they are defending a game they enjoy and don't like it when people come in here and rip it apart.
Take the rude people with a grain of salt bro, most of us are a mature community (20-30yrs+) |
Dane Stark
Golgotha Group
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Posted - 2012.08.29 01:39:00 -
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THCFORME wrote:Title says it all. These forums are like 1000x worse than mag forums ever were. We might actually start seeing some improvement if everyone here wasn't so busy smack talking each other and started giving solid input without trolling each other. I had high hopes for this game, and got very excited when i got my beta code the first round of releases, but if this community can't settle down and agree that there are fixes that need to be made and stop bad mouthing one another for whatever reasons, i am very afraid dust is gonna flop.
I just hope CCP isn't taking notes from either side, because both seem to be out to ruin this game, whether they know it or not. This game is not perfect as it is, and the excuse of "its just a beta" isn't valid anymore. If the game remains how it is now, it will turn into the same 60 people fighting each other because the mass majority will play for a week and leave(especially if this whole "its just a beta" mentality keeps going and nothing ever gets fixed.
Well, you are certainly trying to help it seems, but can I point out one thing?
It IS still beta - I don't know who decided you are the one determining if this is beta or not but... the game is far from complete if you have any clue how advanced the EvE universe is AND there are plenty of trash talkers, but how is that different than in any other game - really.
#1 the devs are good at their job sifting through the crap
#2 people love to trash talk, but I highly doubt that affects CCP's direction - they tend to listen to the real feedback
sorry to come off rude if I am but you really need to not be so pompous - most of this community is not trying to RUIN the game friend. Most of us are actually trying to help them. Yes, there are trolls and inconsiderate people playing, but most of us are not and I am extremely off put by your assumptions.
EDIT: PS - plenty has been fixed over the weeks and months - patience and constructive help has made this game get better and I think that CCP and the real beta testers would agree |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED
TACNET
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Posted - 2012.08.29 01:39:00 -
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don't worry bro Op, I will take you by the hand and guide you through such a unsettling and apocalyptic wasteland of rude text messages
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IsHLTdoRME |
TotalBreakage
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.29 01:42:00 -
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I've tried talking about being mature on both the MAG forums and Dust forums.
It dosn't really work, you cant change the mentality of 100's of people. So now I just grab my Long Island Iced Tea, a bag of popcorn, and sit back on my lounge chair watching the show.....  |
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TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED
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Posted - 2012.08.29 01:47:00 -
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TotalBreakage wrote:I've tried talking about being mature on both the MAG forums and Dust forums. It dosn't really work, you cant change the mentality of 100's of people. So now I just grab my Long Island Iced Tea, a bag of popcorn, and sit back on my lounge chair watching the show.....
can't beat em join em.. its either troll or be trolled..
+1
black coffee and a shot of rum.. World War 1 style.. |
crazy space
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.29 01:52:00 -
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also for the record dust gives corps thier own forums for FREE. So you can have whatever forum communtiy you want on here. It was in the last build. I'm sure it'll be back soon. It's going to be awesome I'm mostly going to hang out in my corp forum, kittens general lol. |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.29 01:54:00 -
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THCFORME wrote:
...especially if this whole "its just a beta" mentality keeps going and nothing ever gets fixed.
Yeah, sometimes I have to stop and remind myself that better for all the tantrums and whining and pointless complaining to go down now than two months from now.
And often it seems like a never ending circle of :
"This game is a beta!"
"That's because it's a beta!"
"But this game is a beta!"
"But that's because it's a beta!"
Unfortunately people will always complain. And it is easier to dismiss pointless comments with pointless answers than to try to tease out exactly what it is that a particular poster got upset about.
On the other hand, things are getting fixed. Big things. And they just disappear. Because there's nothing to complain about anymore so *poof* no more posts. One example, see any auto aim threads lately? Where have they gone? I have played with auto aim on and off and even on it is vastly improved over E3 build as far as I can tell and if it is jerking around with my admittedly already poor aim, I can just switch it off. It was a brilliant solution and a very nice added feature to let players toggle it on or off.
So "it's a Beta" will still stand in for htfu, stfu, and stop whining, things will continue to get fixed, and people that post on gaming forums will always get into fights. And I agree with your post you make a good point. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
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TACNET
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Posted - 2012.08.29 01:59:00 -
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trolling psyches out your enemy.. when you're like me and got no FPS "Shkillz" their rage makes them overly aggressive and then they fumble..
ever read The Art of War by Sun Wu? |
Grenwal Hiesenberg
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.08.29 02:06:00 -
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Sun Tzu?  |
Dane Stark
Golgotha Group
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Posted - 2012.08.29 02:09:00 -
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Grenwal Hiesenberg wrote:Sun Tzu?
He knows what he's talking about - he just hit the Wu-Tzu sauce a little early tonite.  |
Lazarus Solo
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.08.29 02:10:00 -
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If DUST fails, it will have a horrific impact on EVE and CCP. I don't play EVE and don't plan to, but I would hate to see this happen. I can see that CCP is making a great effort with DUST and it has great potential. I don't think the quality of the final game will be an issue, rather how many people will know about the final game.
Rockstar Games spends an above average amount of money on highly expensive advertising campaigns for all of their games, and it always results in a large number of sales. The key to success is advertising your product, and this product will be good. However, a good product simply won't cut it if nobody even knows it exists.
To this date, there are a lot of people that still don't know MAG even exists, due to Sony's reluctance to advertise the game. MAG was a quality title, very high on team work, with battles impacting the position of each PMC on the Shadow War, like DUST. MAG used skill points and a currency to upgrade your character with new skills and equipment, like DUST. DUST is a much more complex version of MAG, in essence.
Why am I discussing MAG? Well, that's goes back to the advertising. If DUST does not get the right advertising, it will end up like MAG, forgotten. CCP has to force Sony to help them out with some good advertising. The advertising, plus the fact that this game will launch at no cost will get a player base of at least 3 million. |
Grenwal Hiesenberg
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.08.29 02:16:00 -
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Dane Stark wrote:Grenwal Hiesenberg wrote:Sun Tzu? He knows what he's talking about - he just hit the Wu-Tzu sauce a little early tonite.
In that case, cheers, I'll take two large orange drinks and keep 'em coming |
Khabarakh Khimbar
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.29 02:16:00 -
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I seriously cannot wait until Eve players figure out ways to scam Dust bunnies out of their ISK. I don't think the majority of Dust players have any idea what they're in for once the two communities start to interact more. |
Dane Stark
Golgotha Group
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Posted - 2012.08.29 02:18:00 -
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Grenwal Hiesenberg wrote:Dane Stark wrote:Grenwal Hiesenberg wrote:Sun Tzu? He knows what he's talking about - he just hit the Wu-Tzu sauce a little early tonite. In that case, cheers, I'll take two large orange drinks and keep 'em coming
I'm in! |
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Grenwal Hiesenberg
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.08.29 02:26:00 -
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Khabarakh Khimbar wrote:I seriously cannot wait until Eve players figure out ways to scam Dust bunnies out of their ISK. I don't think the majority of Dust players have any idea what they're in for once the two communities start to interact more.
Wow, backstabbing? Are we going to be able to interact that closely with them? I've heard about taking out bounties and things like that but what other ways are we going to be able to interact monetarily where they could attempt this, enlighten us please! |
MasterGoshinki
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.29 10:46:00 -
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TotalBreakage wrote:I've tried talking about being mature on both the MAG forums and Dust forums. It dosn't really work, you cant change the mentality of 100's of people. So now I just grab my Long Island Iced Tea, a bag of popcorn, and sit back on my lounge chair watching the show.....
agreed |
Ferocitan
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Posted - 2012.08.29 11:02:00 -
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Goon: we are not trying to ruin THE game. we are trying to ruin YOUR game ;) |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED
TACNET
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Posted - 2012.08.29 11:20:00 -
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Grenwal Hiesenberg wrote:Dane Stark wrote:Grenwal Hiesenberg wrote:Sun Tzu? He knows what he's talking about - he just hit the Wu-Tzu sauce a little early tonite. In that case, cheers, I'll take two large orange drinks and keep 'em coming
blegh! straight vodka or black coffee/shot of rum! |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED
TACNET
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Posted - 2012.08.29 11:22:00 -
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Khabarakh Khimbar wrote:I seriously cannot wait until Eve players figure out ways to scam Dust bunnies out of their ISK. I don't think the majority of Dust players have any idea what they're in for once the two communities start to interact more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lzpv_rCm_Y |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2012.08.29 11:26:00 -
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Wait till you see the EVE forums when the game goes live and we're all sharing the same forums. |
Kaeralli Sturmovos
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.08.29 11:34:00 -
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its a tragic place these forums, i actually came on here hourly to help it succeed and just didnt pay the trolls any mind but then when some are intentionally trying to imbalance the game to their favors for the sake of keeping their pristine records i took up the arms. i do my job as a tester in the right forum locations but when the dumbassary gets alittle crazy ive had to step in.
now i show up far less than before and only put my two cents in when a buddy wants me to check out threads for a laugh or for something that needs to be said other than that i have no need to be in here and it saves me captain morgan budget :D |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
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Posted - 2012.08.29 11:39:00 -
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Dane Stark wrote:Grenwal Hiesenberg wrote:Dane Stark wrote:Grenwal Hiesenberg wrote:Sun Tzu? He knows what he's talking about - he just hit the Wu-Tzu sauce a little early tonite. In that case, cheers, I'll take two large orange drinks and keep 'em coming I'm in!
EVE players who quote Sun-Tzu are ridiculed for being lame carebears trying to come off as tactical geniuses. |
VigSniper101
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Posted - 2012.08.29 11:41:00 -
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Ive seen this exact type of thread in EVERY game forum.
Somehow, the latest forum is always worse then the ones that came before.....just imagine how bad they will be 10 years from now if thats the case.
And, just like those threads, lm going to disagree with the OP...this forum is no better or worse then any other. |
Grenwal Hiesenberg
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.08.29 11:42:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Khabarakh Khimbar wrote:I seriously cannot wait until Eve players figure out ways to scam Dust bunnies out of their ISK. I don't think the majority of Dust players have any idea what they're in for once the two communities start to interact more. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lzpv_rCm_Y
For some reason, i feel the need to play megaman... |
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