The focus of DUST can not be typical FPS kill to death. We need a way to make infantry units feel they are contributing at a high level. Otherwise it will devolve to tank v tank. Because nobody wants to go 1-30 against a tank. However, if a tank cost 30X as much as basic gear they SHOULD go 1-30 against it.

Vocal minorities on the board with bad ideas will of course be ignored.
CCP has staff, and most I do believe have a central nervous system that connects to a brain of sorts.
They have goals, and direction. Player input does play a roll, but its the numbers the players produce, not the bile spilling out of their face hole in most circumstances.
If the game turns good or bad it's CCP decision making. Not those that wanted a different game.

So, I am an avid FPS player. Halo, COD, BF3. Usually pretty solid at those games.

Right away I can see an "issue" with DUST. Its not a problem, but it is an "issue."

Eventually high level play will be about protecting your expensive **** while destroying theirs. Expensive tanks will battle expensive tanks, while logistic vehicles attempt to drain energy and stop repairs or lock down these tanks. AV infantry will attempt to take out said vehicles while infantry attempt to kill them.

Its a good dynamic, and can be a lot of fun. But the current FPS mentality will ruin that. Folks worrying about their k/d ratio will absolutely hate this game. And the leader boards do not do much to counter that.

A quick way to begin facilitiating a change in this mentaility is to record damage done in ISK. And show that versus ISK lost in the post game screens and the leader boards.

The focus of DUST can not be typical FPS kill to death. We need a way to make infantry units feel they are contributing at a high level. Otherwise it will devolve to tank v tank. Because nobody wants to go 1-30 against a tank. However, if a tank cost 30X as much as basic gear they SHOULD go 1-30 against it.

But also, the basic skirmish mode where clones get depleted needs to go away. Otherwise it will become "who spends the most". If I want to throw 20 bodies at a tank and take it out, i should be able to without hurting the success of the mission.

Point is, this game can appeal to a lot of people, but to do so, the game itself needs to take focus off K/D and put it on what makes this game unique, the economy and the global scheme of things.

The point is to make new comers and typical FPS players relax on worrying about their k/d and make them feel useful even if they died 8 times to that tank. If they damaged it 40% when it got destroyed, they should get 40% of its value towards their isk damage score.

First off, im not saying dont show K/D. Im saying take that away as the focus, and focus on isk damaged versus isk lost. Instead of default listing players by kill, list them by isk damage. Add that ratio as a search on the leader boards and make it a focus. Keep other stats for players to see, but put an emphasis on what matters.

The point is to make new comers and typical FPS players relax on worrying about their k/d and make them feel useful even if they died 8 times to that tank. If they damaged it 40% when it got destroyed, they should get 40% of its value towards their isk damage score.

Secondly, worrying about losing a 300K proto suit to a single rail gun shot is valid. But it throws the same concerns. However, you have to remember, folks can res that 300K suit and bring that player back in the game. You cant do that with a tank.

Eventually, I assume the game will play with new players fighting new players in more typical FPS style quick matches. Spending money to win these battles wont make a ton of sense. But its possible. A focus on ISK as a driving stat of success/failure will help mitigate new players from being upset about a tank owning them. (not solve, but help mitigate).

While organized corporations will fight using the vast array of equipment that the game will have. You will have that 300K proto suit defended by some cheaper infantry, and some medics to keep it alive, supplied and resed. But in each scenario, players will want to be able to see how effective they are. And just because you lost 4 25K suits while fighting 1 200K tank doesnt mean you werent effective. The resulting stats should show that rather then show the guy who lost hsi 200K tank going 4-1 against the guy who lost 100K in suits.

If Im a coorp looking for new members I want to be able to see their stats and value their play. In most games k/d is a pretty good indicator. Here it simply isnt. An ISK ratio would be.

But the current FPS mentality will ruin that. Folks worrying about their k/d ratio will absolutely hate this game. And the leader boards do not do much to counter that.

The scores are NOT sorted by K:D ratio, they are sorted by the number of kills, with the tie breaker going to the one with fewer deaths. I have no objection to showing isk loss on the board, but it should continue to be sorted by the number of kills by default. Good for you to anyone who wants to run in nothing but militia gear, but if others on your team are offering a greater contribution to the match, they should be recognized.

Your deaths have the potential of leading your team to losing the match, while a person losing expensive gear is only at their own personal cost. Assets are personal only in dust right now, so there's nothing but imaginary bragging rights gained from running in nothing but militia, racking up a 5:10 ratio and having 100% isk efficiency.

without any real idea of how player contracts can work, or how taking over a player planet might play out, i think that all this is conjecture.

K/D is only the focus of the game if people make it out to be.

So, I am an avid FPS player. Halo, COD, BF3. Usually pretty solid at those games.

Right away I can see an "issue" with DUST. Its not a problem, but it is an "issue."

Eventually high level play will be about protecting your expensive **** while destroying theirs. Expensive tanks will battle expensive tanks, while logistic vehicles attempt to drain energy and stop repairs or lock down these tanks. AV infantry will attempt to take out said vehicles while infantry attempt to kill them.

Its a good dynamic, and can be a lot of fun. But the current FPS mentality will ruin that. Folks worrying about their k/d ratio will absolutely hate this game. And the leader boards do not do much to counter that.

A quick way to begin facilitiating a change in this mentaility is to record damage done in ISK. And show that versus ISK lost in the post game screens and the leader boards.

The focus of DUST can not be typical FPS kill to death. We need a way to make infantry units feel they are contributing at a high level. Otherwise it will devolve to tank v tank. Because nobody wants to go 1-30 against a tank. However, if a tank cost 30X as much as basic gear they SHOULD go 1-30 against it.

But also, the basic skirmish mode where clones get depleted needs to go away. Otherwise it will become "who spends the most". If I want to throw 20 bodies at a tank and take it out, i should be able to without hurting the success of the mission.

Point is, this game can appeal to a lot of people, but to do so, the game itself needs to take focus off K/D and put it on what makes this game unique, the economy and the global scheme of things.