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Timothy Reaper
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
321
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Posted - 2012.08.23 09:08:00 -
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I'm sick of all the 'over-powered' complaints. While some of these are valid, most seem to be people crying because they lost a few matches. So I thought, "What if we had some 'under-powered' weapons?" Do you have any ideas? Let's hear them! They can as serious or as crazy as you want. The only rule is that the weapon cannot directly cause damage to shields or armor. This includes detonating munitions (that is over-powered, in my opinion). Here's my idea: 'Discord' Sniper Rifle This rifle fires darts that can be programmed to have different effects. Instead of a magazine it has a revolving cylinder, with each chamber set to upload a different program. Higher levels = more chambers. The user gets to choose which program goes to which chamber. The upload time depends upon the complexity of the program. The effects last until either the dart's battery runs out, it is removed by a Repair Tool or it is destroyed (hope your friend is a good shot) Programs currently available: Poltergeist A remote hacking dart. Can be used on objectives and unattended enemy vehicles/turrets. After you sucessfully hack a vehicle/turret you can control it by remote. 'Please Kick Me' Broadcasts a Squad Attack order on enemy comms. If target is destroyed by the enemy (or the target destroys it's teammates), you get the points. 'They're All Out to Get Me' Causes the target's dropsuit to tag all players, vehicles, turrets, Nanohives, Drop Uplinks and objectives as the enemy. You get the points for any damage/hacks the target does to it's team. Malpractice Causes the target's Equipment to work in reverse: Repair Tools deplete armor, Nanite Injectors kill, Nanohives deplete ammunition and Drop Uplinks work for the opposition. Once the Nanohives and Drop Uplinks are deployed in this state, they remain that way. You get points for all damage caused by the target's Equipment. Plastic Surgeon Want to see something strange on the battlefield? How about Barney? A Teletubby? Or Pacman? This dart projects a simple hologram over the target that is not visible from inside, so the target won't know it's been hit. No points for this one, just something to make people say 'WTK?' (What The Kitten?) If your team destroys the target while it is being affected by any dart you get a kill assist.
More programs coming SOONGäó. (If you want to add to this list, be my guest) |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.08.23 09:14:00 -
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Boy howdy that would be some crazy annoying stuff to have to deal with. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.23 09:17:00 -
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All for it. Dust is supposed to be different right? Well, what other game has something like this? |
Antonius Dacinci
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2012.08.23 09:22:00 -
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I very much favour electronic troll weapons. It also fits with the whole EVE anyhow xD
Though I think they already have half of this planned, look up Ewar in EVE and you can get a idea of what kinda stuff will show up first |
Finn Kempers
BetaMax.
222
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Posted - 2012.08.23 09:24:00 -
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I like the Malpractice and Poltergeist one. Would make my sniping much more entertaining. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.08.23 09:26:00 -
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Made from Yan Jung tech (maybe made from reverse engineering scavenged technology from ruins) -A gravity gun that fires charged shots, and each shot will be a energy sphere that will pull in anyone that it hits directly (which traps them until the sphere disappears in 10 seconds), and slows the the movement of anyone moving away from it by pulling on them. It would be like the forge gun, but have the effect of trapping or slowing down enemy players. This weapon would be nonlethal.
Caldari tech -Antipersonnel stasis webifier: Reduces the maximum speed of an enemy merc by employing micro energy streams which effectively entangle the target temporarily, thereby slowing it down. Would be actvated by aiming one's hand towards an enemy.
Gallente tech -A group of spherical flying drones that orbit the player and generate a slight shield boost. When the player designates a target by aiming a non-lethal laser at an enemy, the drones move towards and fly around the enemy to do some light continuous shield damage, and distract. |
Aldz D
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
49
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Posted - 2012.08.23 09:38:00 -
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if CCP would add a Zombie type mode or gameplay for it then the ones you jut said could be one of the weapons for it lmfao |
Timothy Reaper
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
321
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Posted - 2012.08.23 10:00:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Made from Yan Jung tech (maybe made from reverse engineering scavenged technology from ruins) -A gravity gun that fires charged shots, and each shot will be a energy sphere that will pull in anyone that it hits directly (which traps them until the sphere disappears in 10 seconds), and slows the the movement of anyone moving away from it by pulling on them. It would be like the forge gun, but have the effect of trapping or slowing down enemy players. This weapon would be nonlethal.
Caldari tech -Antipersonnel stasis webifier: Reduces the maximum speed of an enemy merc by employing micro energy streams which effectively entangle the target temporarily, thereby slowing it down. Would be actvated by aiming one's hand towards an enemy.
Gallente tech -A group of spherical flying drones that orbit the player and generate a slight shield boost. When the player designates a target by aiming a non-lethal laser at an enemy, the drones move towards and fly around the enemy to do some light continuous shield damage, and distract. Great ideas! Although I'm not sure that last one belongs here, seeing as how it causes damage. Still, cool idea! |
Maxious30
Dragon Knights of EvE
12
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Posted - 2012.08.23 10:01:00 -
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An underpowered gun? Hmm how about a real nerf gun? I always hear about how weapons been nerfed. In reference to the actual nerf gun that fires foam darts at kids. So coul we really have a nerf gun in game?
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Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.23 10:08:00 -
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Maxious30 wrote:An underpowered gun? Hmm how about a real nerf gun? I always hear about how weapons been nerfed. In reference to the actual nerf gun that fires foam darts at kids. So coul we really have a nerf gun in game?
Explain to me how you conclude that a weapon designed to cause confusion and disorder would be underpowered? |
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Timothy Reaper
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
321
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Posted - 2012.08.23 10:39:00 -
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Maxious30 wrote:An underpowered gun? Hmm how about a real nerf gun? I always hear about how weapons been nerfed. In reference to the actual nerf gun that fires foam darts at kids. So coul we really have a nerf gun in game?
I was thinking the same thing earlier. You beat me to posting it. |
Timothy Reaper
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
321
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Posted - 2012.08.23 10:57:00 -
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New dart program available! Ipecac Causes a weapon to continuously fire. Note: Dart must connect directly to the weapon. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.08.23 11:08:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Maxious30 wrote:An underpowered gun? Hmm how about a real nerf gun? I always hear about how weapons been nerfed. In reference to the actual nerf gun that fires foam darts at kids. So coul we really have a nerf gun in game?
Explain to me how you conclude that a weapon designed to cause confusion and disorder would be underpowered? OP specifically asked for suggestions of "under-powered" weapons.
Nerf gun fights would be a good training mode.
And if you repaint them, Nerf guns actually look like they'd fit in most sci-fi universes.
Take a look at these:
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs49/i/2009/222/9/d/Nerf_Longshot_CS_6_WWII_Mod_by_meandmunch.jpg http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/064/f/2/nerf_longshot_repaint_by_freeport-d4rs3zu.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3385/3549671042_bcf5ab1641.jpg
Would ANY of those look out of place in New Eden? |
Timothy Reaper
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
321
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Posted - 2012.08.23 11:50:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Maxious30 wrote:An underpowered gun? Hmm how about a real nerf gun? I always hear about how weapons been nerfed. In reference to the actual nerf gun that fires foam darts at kids. So coul we really have a nerf gun in game?
Explain to me how you conclude that a weapon designed to cause confusion and disorder would be underpowered? That's the idea. Most of the 'over-powered' complaints I've read are about some weapon/vehicle being too strong when, in reality, it's just a skilled player taking them out. The weapons in this thread are not meant to cause any physical damage. Therefore, they are 'under-powered' in that sense, but can cause damage in plenty of other ways. A weapon is only as good as the person using it. |
Icy Tiger
496
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Posted - 2012.08.23 12:01:00 -
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Black Ops HAV Line Hologram.
It makes your enemies tremble and run straight into your guns as a line of holographic HAVs comes straight at them. |
Kro'nak Ragnok
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
79
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Posted - 2012.08.27 15:58:00 -
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lol, I love this thread. +1's to EVERYONE!!! {edit, Just Kidding, almost EVERYONE} :P
As for my contributions, - I think it would be nice if after a person's shields & armor were depleted that their painful groan noise was replaced with the sound of a child giggling & laughing. - I think it would be just as hilarious to have the professional sounds of actual weapons be replaced by grown adults actually running around and actually saying "Pew-pew", "Bang-bang" & etc. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1902
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Posted - 2012.08.27 16:02:00 -
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Swarm launchers. You use them to target vehicles, but they don't actually do anything, and when you target infantry, it causes them to laugh uncontrollably.
I think they should add these to the game ;) |
Zat Earthshatter
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
304
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Posted - 2012.08.28 09:33:00 -
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Here's something to add. I've been wanting this ever since I stumbled upon it in the EVE wiki! Note that it has TWO functions. |
Flux Raeder
WarRavens
83
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Posted - 2012.08.28 11:08:00 -
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Timothy Reaper wrote:I'm sick of all the 'over-powered' complaints. While some of these are valid, most seem to be people crying because they lost a few matches. So I thought, "What if we had some 'under-powered' weapons?" Do you have any ideas? Let's hear them! They can as serious or as crazy as you want. The only rule is that the weapon cannot directly cause damage to shields or armor. This includes detonating munitions (that is over-powered, in my opinion). Here's my idea: 'Discord' Sniper RifleThis rifle fires darts that can be programmed to have different effects. Instead of a magazine it has a revolving cylinder, with each chamber set to upload a different program. Higher levels = more chambers. The user gets to choose which program goes to which chamber. The upload time depends upon the complexity of the program. The effects last until either the dart's battery runs out, it is removed by a Repair Tool or it is destroyed (hope your friend is a good shot ) Programs currently available: PoltergeistA remote hacking dart. Can be used on objectives and unattended enemy vehicles/turrets. After you sucessfully hack a vehicle/turret you can control it by remote. 'Please Kick Me'Broadcasts a Squad Attack order on enemy comms. If target is destroyed by the enemy (or the target destroys it's teammates), you get the points. 'They're All Out to Get Me'Causes the target's dropsuit to tag all players, vehicles, turrets, Nanohives, Drop Uplinks and objectives as the enemy. You get the points for any damage/hacks the target does to it's team. MalpracticeCauses the target's Equipment to work in reverse: Repair Tools deplete armor, Nanite Injectors kill, Nanohives deplete ammunition and Drop Uplinks work for the opposition. Once the Nanohives and Drop Uplinks are deployed in this state, they remain that way. You get points for all damage caused by the target's Equipment. Plastic SurgeonWant to see something strange on the battlefield? How about Barney? A Teletubby? Or Pacman? This dart projects a simple hologram over the target that is not visible from inside, so the target won't know it's been hit. No points for this one, just something to make people say 'WTK?' (What The Kitten?) If your team destroys the target while it is being affected by any dart you get a kill assist. More programs coming SOONGäó. (If you want to add to this list, be my guest) I'm a sniper and most of these not only sound fun but bloody game-changing and genius |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.08.29 06:14:00 -
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Timothy Reaper wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Made from Yan Jung tech (maybe made from reverse engineering scavenged technology from ruins) -A gravity gun that fires charged shots, and each shot will be a energy sphere that will pull in anyone that it hits directly (which traps them until the sphere disappears in 10 seconds), and slows the the movement of anyone moving away from it by pulling on them. It would be like the forge gun, but have the effect of trapping or slowing down enemy players. This weapon would be nonlethal.
Caldari tech -Antipersonnel stasis webifier: Reduces the maximum speed of an enemy merc by employing micro energy streams which effectively entangle the target temporarily, thereby slowing it down. Would be actvated by aiming one's hand towards an enemy.
Gallente tech -A group of spherical flying drones that orbit the player and generate a slight shield boost. When the player designates a target by aiming a non-lethal laser at an enemy, the drones move towards and fly around the enemy to do some light continuous shield damage, and distract. Great ideas! Although I'm not sure that last one belongs here, seeing as how it causes damage. Still, cool idea!
Well it wouldn't kill anyone since it won't touch armor at all, only shields, so non-lethal. The weapons in this game really are boring, mostly just standard FPS things (assault rifle, SMG, sniper rifle, grenade launcher, ec). Weird, unconventional, and non-lethal weapons would really spice things up and keep things from getting boring. |
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Timothy Reaper
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
321
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Posted - 2012.08.29 06:33:00 -
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Timothy Reaper wrote:The only rule is that the weapon cannot directly cause damage to shields or armor.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.08.29 06:37:00 -
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Yeah, I get that, but It still qualifies under the real definition of non-lethal (not capable of causing death). I suppose the shield damage isn't necessary since it can still perform as a good distraction. Maybe they can drain enemy stamina instead, or fire glaring lights into the eyes/cameras of the enemy. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.08.29 06:41:00 -
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A lot of your suggestions would go great for this thread on electronic warfare: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=24691&find=unread Give it a read, and maybe post some of your ideas here. |
Kro'nak Ragnok
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
79
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Posted - 2012.09.03 18:57:00 -
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Kro'nak Ragnok wrote:lol, I love this thread. +1's to EVERYONE!!! {edit, Just Kidding, almost EVERYONE} :P
As for my contributions, - I think it would be nice if after a person's shields & armor were depleted that their painful groan noise was replaced with the sound of a child giggling & laughing. - I think it would be just as hilarious to have the professional sounds of actual weapons be replaced by grown adults actually running around and actually saying "Pew-pew", "Bang-bang" & etc.
Oh, we are being serious now are we? Well I just had another ideal...
Hologram Grenades - grenades that you throw which react to the environment & give off a grenade indication but do absolutely no damage & uses up no PG/CPU, taking up only the explosive slot of a dropsuit fitting. The purpose of this grenade would be soley to "freak people out" & cause them to leave cover, blindly run forward into gunfire thinking the grenade is going to kill them anyway, or run away in fear of The BEST Bluff ever, lol.
Psychological Warfare FTW! |
Unit-775
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
36
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Posted - 2012.09.03 19:59:00 -
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When i saw Non-lethal weapons i thought what kind of bullshit is this. This is Dust i want everyone on the enemy team dead.
But this is a really great idea.
i would like to see a dart which reverses the drive controls on a vehicle. Hi Dropship like to crash into the next wall ? |
mcbob mcbob
10
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Posted - 2012.09.03 20:49:00 -
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shield overcharge- as long as you keep shooting someone, they have an extra layer of shields. |
MrShooter01
Expert Intervention Caldari State
268
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Posted - 2012.09.03 20:50:00 -
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shenanigans
shenanigans everywhere
CreoDron Holo-decoy:
Grenade slot item, max ammo 1-2 High CPU usage, typical "grenade" PG usage Isk cost comparable to primary weapon
A small autonomous drone that when released creates a holographic duplicate of the user. The drone/hologram will "sprint" in a straight line and turn in a random direction when hitting an obstacle. The decoy lasts for 10-30 seconds (higher tier decoys last longer) or until destroyed by gunfire/splash damage (but it has an irritatingly small hitbox). The enemy team will always see a red enemy marker above the decoy and on the minimap from the moment it is deployed, even through walls. |
Timothy Reaper
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
321
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Posted - 2012.09.07 06:27:00 -
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New dart program available! Trespasser Allows target to safely enter Unsafe Areas Remember to get back before the battery runs down!
Also available: 'Voyeur' Shotgun Sends out a spray of nanites that disrupt molecular bonds, making a translucent 'window' in walls that allow projectiles to pass through with a damage reduction of 20%. |
WiZdomTooTh
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.09.07 06:40:00 -
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How about some pepper spray? You seen how far that stuff sprays out? Get some fools! |
Mobius Kaethis
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
306
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Posted - 2012.11.11 00:39:00 -
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New dart idea:
The yodeler audio distraction dart. This dart, which is only effective with a head shot, will shorcircuit the targets communications software causing them to hear incessant yodeling over their comms making communication with team mates much harder.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQhqikWnQCU&feature=related |
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